| darwin | i compile stuff they say 128GB is low-end for, sometimes edit multiple/dozens images up to 1GB each, sometimes some audio editing, several filesharing of 12TB, have other web browsers with tens/dozens tabs at the same time as the one with 100, some extra IM that most tend to mount several of their own filesystems these days... of course I won't be doing most that on something this old | 00:01 |
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| darwin | i saw a boot message for amdgpu on our PCs I need firmware... so maybe it's using VESA or something meantime? | 00:03 |
| gnarface | yea, and that'll drag your performance down a lot | 00:03 |
| gnarface | unless it's one of the real old ones, you'll need firmware-amd-graphics from non-free-firmware and a bunch of mesa packages from main | 00:04 |
| gnarface | a couple of the mesa packages can even help firefox | 00:04 |
| gnarface | especially if you're using it to watch videos | 00:04 |
| darwin | the first one didn't tell me the dependencies in apt-get... is there an article/webpage on this? | 00:04 |
| gnarface | you just need to add non-free-firmware to your /etc/apt/sources.list | 00:05 |
| gnarface | maybe you upgraded to current stable from an older version and didn't know they moved all the firmware and drivers from non-free to the new non-free-firmware section? | 00:06 |
| darwin | i've already now just installed firmware-amd-graphics, had that in the list | 00:06 |
| darwin | no, it's a fresh installation of Devuan 5 | 00:06 |
| darwin | i haven't used Debian much since 1998 to 2002 and in recent years Devuan a little but haven't dealt with previous version | 00:07 |
| gnarface | http://paste.debian.net/1320424/ | 00:07 |
| darwin | well except on main PC earlier | 00:07 |
| gnarface | here's all the mesa packages i have installed, might help you to install them all even if you're not using them (you'll only need the i386 ones for wine though) | 00:08 |
| darwin | thanks! :) | 00:08 |
| gnarface | you saw i mentioned to make sure you have acpid too, right? | 00:09 |
| gnarface | sometimes it gets left out for weird reasons but xorg needs it to enable power control on the gpu | 00:10 |
| gnarface | well, for nvidia cards it does anyway, i actually am not sure if the amd ones work the same way in that regard... | 00:10 |
| wato | Hello, im trying to install obs-studio but im not able to install some of the dependencies. for example libavcodec58 or libavdevice58. Can someone help me finding those dependencies? | 02:36 |
| rrq | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/libavcodec58 | 02:38 |
| wato | Thank you very much, i found that page while searching, but i was not sure that was the way to solve the problem. | 02:41 |
| wato | damn obs | 02:42 |
| rrq | it should be safe to include say chimaera/main in the sources.list, to resolve thoe dependencies | 02:45 |
| rrq | or chimaera-security/main | 02:45 |
| rrq | or both | 02:46 |
| rrq | (not that I know this for sure though) | 02:46 |
| wato | I will investigate that option, sound less painless | 02:47 |
| darwin | thanks | 06:06 |
| darwin | gnarface, a couple those packages weren't found... one says it depends on another | 08:26 |
| darwin | after I installed AMDGPU-PRO, despite not using DKMS, I no longer get GUI. Then I installed DKMS and still don't. Some Devuan text flashes by first | 08:35 |
| darwin | libgl1-mesa-swx11, libopenvg1-mesa:amd64 were the ones missing including referred to by another package | 08:36 |
| gnarface | darwin: sorry, that one was marked "rc" as in i'd removed it. i should have deleted it from the list. forgot to mention it | 09:42 |
| gnarface | i realize that wasn't actually obvious, but only the "ii" ones are actually installed here | 09:42 |
| gnarface | i think that was removed from a previous release or something. that's probably the cause of the dependency loop and the lack of the GUI | 09:43 |
| gnarface | ("sw" in "swx11" is for software, as in, instead of hardware) | 09:43 |
| gnarface | nvidia uses dkms, i don't think amdgpu does | 09:44 |
| gnarface | but if amdgpu-pro does, make sure you also have the linux-headers package to correspond to your linux-image package | 09:45 |
| gnarface | and probably also build-dep | 09:45 |
| gnarface | and build-essential | 09:45 |
| amarsh04 | had a plasma-workspace problem with Ceres that appears to be this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487912 | 11:57 |
| gour | hello, in a recnt tiem i definitely gave up on opensuse (tumbleweed). tried for a short time with siduction, but then decided to settle on stable (bookworm)..changed from btrfs (back) to xfs and now enjoy "All packages are up to date". i use backports for few apps (emacs, claws...), but considering to give devuan-stable a try - first on my spare (old netbook) maching | 13:21 |
| gour | i've a need to run few apps from flatpak (viber, zoom,..) so wonder if I can expect everything to run smoohtly? | 13:22 |
| gour | another concern is whether sysvinit is (still) recommended init system for smooth sailing= | 13:23 |
| Xenguy | gour, Devuan is Debian without systemd, so otherwise you can expect the same... | 13:31 |
| Xenguy | re: sysvinit is still the default init for Devuan, yes | 13:31 |
| gour | Xenguy, yeah, i'm aware of Devuan's lack of systemd and attracted becasue of that similarly as I want to use stable system after many years spent with unstable/rolling distros :-) | 13:32 |
| Xenguy | Welcome to the club (I use oldstable ; -) | 13:35 |
| gour | heh, that would be too shocking jump for me :-) | 13:36 |
| Xenguy | hehe | 13:36 |
| gour | of course, xfce is still the best DE for me which is also friendly-enough for other family members | 13:37 |
| Xenguy | XFCE is the default Devuan DE (I have been happy with MATE for some years now) | 13:46 |
| gour | i've never tried MATE, but I'm sure I'll like it..however, xfce doe all what i need and i like its' keyboard-flow | 13:50 |
| Xenguy | Fair enough, it is popular enough to have been chosen as Devuan's default : -) | 13:51 |
| atlas1 | I'm trying to set up wireguard, I get /usr/bin/wg-quick: line 32: sysctl: command not found | 14:52 |
| atlas1 | also #bash: update-rc.d: command not found | 14:53 |
| djph | atlas1: script expects to be root maybe? | 14:53 |
| atlas1 | I am root | 14:53 |
| djph | oh, dunno then :( | 14:55 |
| rrq | atlas1: are you using "su" ather than "su -" ? | 14:56 |
| atlas1 | ah as root I guess I have to add sudo | 14:57 |
| rrq | specifically, you have to have the correct PATH | 14:57 |
| fsmithred | atlas1, get root with 'su -' instead of just 'su' | 15:02 |
| fsmithred | or add the following to /etc/default/su (create it): | 15:02 |
| fsmithred | ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes | 15:02 |
| atlas1 | okay thanks fsmithred | 19:00 |
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