| donc | I haven't been able to figure out the PATH required to use the ofono scripts. The list-modems system path given doesn't work | 10:49 |
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| freemangordon | if there is only one mode, no need to provide path | 10:51 |
| freemangordon | *modem | 10:51 |
| donc | the two ofono scripts that set values 'set-tech-preferences' and 'set-lte-property' indicate [PATH] required | 11:04 |
| donc | the two that I've tried | 11:05 |
| sicelo | that's odd | 11:13 |
| sicelo | show us the `list-modems` path | 11:13 |
| freemangordon | maybe there is no modem? | 11:15 |
| freemangordon | donc: yes, please, pastebin the output of list-modems | 11:15 |
| donc | https://paste.gnome.org/BMb46URYU | 11:20 |
| freemangordon | looks fine | 11:22 |
| freemangordon | so, what command fails? | 11:23 |
| donc | when I use the 'systempath' as the [path] I get an error comlaining about the '.' being an illegal character | 11:23 |
| sicelo | you should use /quectelqmi_0 | 11:24 |
| freemangordon | donc: /usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-tech-preference umts | 11:25 |
| freemangordon | what is the result? | 11:25 |
| donc | oops i just set it to gsm and thanks, that path variable seemed to work | 11:27 |
| donc | i'm gonna try a call | 11:27 |
| freemangordon | yeah, umts is no more around europe :( | 11:27 |
| freemangordon | and worldwide it seems | 11:28 |
| sicelo | we'll still have it here for a while :-) | 11:28 |
| freemangordon | here too | 11:29 |
| donc | now the dialing screen hangs for idk how long since i waited 20 seconds and hung up | 11:30 |
| donc | did i need to restart ofono? i guess i should | 11:32 |
| freemangordon | no | 11:36 |
| freemangordon | it should not be neede | 11:36 |
| freemangordon | d | 11:36 |
| freemangordon | maybe try to dial-in | 11:36 |
| freemangordon | dunno, maybe your SIM provider blocks leste | 11:37 |
| sicelo | looks like H2O only supports LTE ... | 11:45 |
| sicelo | and maybe LTE support in ofono (or at least our version) isn't the best | 11:46 |
| sicelo | donc: you could try to build the latest ofono on your device, and see what happens in that case. there have been some great improvements, especially with regards to pinephone, courtesy of piggz :-) | 11:49 |
| donc | so I did TRY to restart ofono but it didn't but when I set it back to lte the connection returned | 11:49 |
| donc | I'll try to build it yes | 11:49 |
| donc | but I did see that the 'default apn' was blank on the modom output I used "set-lte-property" "default access point name" to RESELLER then restarted ofono it doesn't come back online and I can't put the variable back to blank. Am I screwed? | 11:53 |
| freemangordon | there is some storage in /var/lob/ofono | 11:54 |
| freemangordon | or something like that | 11:54 |
| freemangordon | */var/lib... | 11:54 |
| sicelo | /var/cache iirc | 11:55 |
| freemangordon | could be | 11:55 |
| donc | rebooting then i'll have a look, thanks | 11:55 |
| freemangordon | yeah, we shall go for upstream ofono | 11:56 |
| freemangordon | but I am constantly distracted and cannot finish connui-cell fixes | 11:56 |
| freemangordon | which will allow me to do the ofono patch I promised to the maintainer :( | 11:56 |
| freemangordon | too many stuff on the plate, but lets hope once we finish SIP/XMPP audio I will have time | 11:58 |
| sicelo | how about doing the ofono side first, and connui after? i think Wizzup would also agree :-) | 11:58 |
| freemangordon | no, connui stuff is easier | 11:58 |
| freemangordon | for ofono I would have to port d4 modem as well | 11:58 |
| sicelo | librem5 will also most likely need upstream ofono | 11:58 |
| sicelo | ah ok | 11:59 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: in the meanwhile, I got XMPP audio working, including calls with fremantle :) | 11:59 |
| sicelo | sweet! | 11:59 |
| freemangordon | it is still rough around the edges, (outgoing calls do not work, the same as with SIP), on d4 there is issue with microphone, but still ;) | 12:00 |
| freemangordon | anyway going to do some RL work job, ttyl | 12:00 |
| sicelo | calls with Fremantle means? | 12:00 |
| freemangordon | n900 calling leste | 12:01 |
| freemangordon | (n900 fremantle) | 12:01 |
| sicelo | cool :-) | 12:01 |
| freemangordon | using xmpp | 12:01 |
| freemangordon | bbl | 12:02 |
| donc | sicelo: 'locate' doesn't list anything for 'iirc' | 12:09 |
| donc | also I had the same dialing failure with my previous ATT line leaser "PureTalk". Maybe ATT has restrictions going on but setting the APN seems to be important and I couldn't figure out how to set that variable until now and it just trashed my install | 12:13 |
| donc | reflash I suppose. I've done some building of packages years ago so I'll need to find some instructions | 12:15 |
| sicelo | donc: sorry. iirc = if i remember correctly. try /var/cache/ofono | 12:15 |
| donc | ahh, haha, cool thanks | 12:16 |
| sicelo | anyway you most likely do need an apn, at least for internet access. very rare, afaik, for it to have to be blank | 12:16 |
| donc | shouldn't the command I used work? | 12:17 |
| donc | was it the wrong format? | 12:18 |
| sicelo | you say sim is fine on android phone? from android settings you should be able to see what apn you should set | 12:18 |
| donc | I have to set the APN as RESELLER under android | 12:19 |
| donc | and so did that with the script | 12:19 |
| donc | when I search the ofono config files adding that does nothing | 12:20 |
| sicelo | yes using the ofono commands is best. | 12:24 |
| sicelo | if editing config files, you'd have to then restart ofono | 12:25 |
| sicelo | I have zero experience with LTE and VoLTE | 12:25 |
| sicelo | actually, yes, does Android show a volte icon? what happens if you try an older non-volte phone? calls work? | 12:27 |
| donc | I have a moto g7 i think that works fine with lineageOS but my LGv20 stopped working. Prolly cuz they don't want ppl using removable battery phones. Not sure why pinephone is accepted | 12:37 |
| donc | I'm gonna retry the v20 with H2O carrier | 12:37 |
| donc | I haven't really focused on volte | 12:41 |
| donc | I never see the volte icon and ATT blocks my older phones since a couple years ago. I suppose they can't be spied on effectively. I have an N900 but Tmobile is not in my area | 12:54 |
| freemangordon | donc: you should be able to set APN from setttings->internet connections | 13:14 |
| gnarface | donc: i believe it's even stupider than that, something like spacex convinced the government to force everyone to give up their 2g and 3g bands so that they could crush them with satellite internet broadcasts of an ill-advised high power level | 13:30 |
| gnarface | (i'm certain 2g and 3g are actually much easier to spy on) | 13:31 |
| gnarface | (...or at the very least, of no significantly different difficulty) | 13:33 |
| gnarface | that this helped further the push for 5g - which we don't even need - probably went a long way to getting most the industry onboard with it | 13:37 |
| buZz | did you know, 3G HSOPA could already do fullduplex 100mbps | 13:39 |
| buZz | never deployed in most regions before the move to 4G | 13:39 |
| gnarface | i did not know that but it's completely unsurprising to me | 13:40 |
| buZz | HSDPA was deployed in most regions, iirc 7mbps max | 13:40 |
| uvos | whats more is that HSDPA allredy pretty mutch reatches shannon's limit, theres nothing you can do to improve throughput really (besides up the bandwith of the signal/ increase its frequency) | 15:36 |
| donc | some military guys claim 5g is has weapon grade potential. The US DOD is a big player in the depop agenda | 15:36 |
| uvos | lte still made sense since utms carries alot of legacy baggage | 15:36 |
| uvos | like the needless slow seperate audio channel and sutch | 15:36 |
| donc | freemangordon: I haven't been able to find APN input options outside of ofono scripts for Leste | 15:37 |
| uvos | but really no cellular technology since hsdpa has been any real improvement over. | 15:37 |
| uvos | 5g ups bandwith by increasing the frequency, but thats really kinda useless besides in eadge cases since it looses so mutch penetration | 15:38 |
| uvos | 5g at low frequencys is mostly pointless | 15:38 |
| buZz | uvos: thats why 5G was so popular in deployment | 15:39 |
| buZz | like the Huawei ban in US when 5G came | 15:39 |
| buZz | so that their biggest competitor ZTE could deploy in US | 15:39 |
| buZz | (of which trump publicly bought a lot of stock years before) | 15:39 |
| buZz | because 5G needs so much more celltowers for even basic coverage | 15:40 |
| buZz | i wonder if 7G will require you to plug a ethernet cable in your cellphone | 15:40 |
| uvos | 7G will be in the THz range | 15:41 |
| uvos | ie light :P | 15:41 |
| uvos | irda will be back | 15:42 |
| buZz | hehe | 15:43 |
| freemangordon | heh | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | donc: as I said settings->internet connections | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | donc: https://maedevu.maemo.org/docs/userguide/html/chapters/settings.html#edit-mobile-connection | 15:47 |
| donc | freemangordon: yes, and I find no options except for wifi and occasionally the cell data button show up but data never works | 15:47 |
| freemangordon | so, is your provider supported in mobile-broadband-data? | 15:48 |
| freemangordon | sorry, "mobile-broadband-provider-info" | 15:48 |
| donc | I have a data package and didn't know gprs was data | 15:48 |
| donc | I'll hava look | 15:49 |
| uvos | gprs is a old timey data channel used with gsm | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | does not matter, we use term GPRS for mobile connections | 15:49 |
| uvos | its use in meamo for "data" is wrong | 15:49 |
| uvos | freemangordon: sure its still wrong | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | could be | 15:49 |
| donc | has anyone got the headphone jack to work for sound? | 15:50 |
| freemangordon | on droid4 yes | 15:50 |
| freemangordon | on PP, not sure | 15:50 |
| freemangordon | but it is UCM/kernel thing anyways | 15:50 |
| buZz | i used it a ton on droid4 aswell | 15:50 |
| buZz | and n900 | 15:50 |
| donc | yeah, PP i've only got bluetooth headset for hd music | 15:51 |
| uvos | we dont support bluetooth yet | 15:51 |
| uvos | you can use desktop linux frontends | 15:51 |
| buZz | oooooo, i'm gonna sell one of my n900's to someone hyped about trying leste 'and i always wanted one!' | 15:51 |
| uvos | but we dont have one | 15:51 |
| buZz | loan first i guess | 15:51 |
| buZz | uvos: no support, but it does kinda work ;) | 15:51 |
| buZz | if you know your way | 15:52 |
| uvos | yeah i use blueman to use it on d4 | 15:52 |
| buZz | btw pipewire is amazing for BT audio | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | we have kernel issues on both n900 and d4 | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | afaik | 15:52 |
| uvos | on d4 it works fine | 15:52 |
| uvos | besides breaking ret | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | heh | 15:52 |
| uvos | the driver has no runtime pm support | 15:52 |
| uvos | so thats expected | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | yeah, BT is the next thing I guess | 15:53 |
| uvos | well i gues allso call audio via cant work yet | 15:54 |
| uvos | since you have to connect the bt chips dai to the modem dai | 15:54 |
| uvos | via cpcap | 15:54 |
| uvos | and we dont do this | 15:54 |
| freemangordon | we kinda have it | 15:55 |
| freemangordon | or a matter of few lines of code | 15:55 |
| uvos | these bits yeah | 15:55 |
| uvos | but nothing works atm | 15:55 |
| freemangordon | I know, but should be easy | 15:55 |
| donc | hey I'm looking for the ofono source web page and I see github is archive read only from last year and I see forks. Can someone direct me to the appropriate page for Leste please🙂️ | 17:57 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/maemo-leste-upstream-forks/ofono | 18:04 |
| freemangordon | donc: ^^^ | 18:04 |
| donc | freemangordon: danke | 18:04 |
| sicelo | if you were asking about it in connection with the suggestion to try the latest ofono, then you need to use https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/ofono/ofono.git/ | 20:12 |
| sicelo | donc: ^ | 20:13 |
| gnarface | when you read "ofono" are you supposed to think "oh no!" | 20:14 |
| gnarface | ? | 20:14 |
| gnarface | or am i reading too much into it? | 20:14 |
| uvos | thats a bit mutch, but ofono is a bit in a poor state | 20:16 |
| Wizzup | yes, and with modem manager you think about how mismanages your modem | 20:16 |
| uvos | with everyone switching to modem manager | 20:16 |
| uvos | Wizzup: :P | 20:16 |
| Wizzup | and everyone will have different opinions, and it's all pointless | 20:16 |
| uvos | going with the flow has beneifts regardless of specific techinal merrit, since it gets more testing if its popular but yeah | 20:17 |
| uvos | we are not switching to mm that would be lots of work for little gain | 20:17 |
| uvos | i do want to write a sphone mm backend eventually however | 20:18 |
| sicelo | gnarface: ofono is very healthy nowadays. look at the log on that link to see for yourself | 20:19 |
| sicelo | yes ofono was 'dead' for a long time, but some unknown events caused a turnaround | 20:20 |
| donc | sicelo: oops, yeah, thanks, I dint think about specifying that 👍️ | 22:02 |
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