libera/#maemo-leste/ Tuesday, 2024-08-06

konahrm, and how to get like | and <> on the slide out keyboard in leste?02:45
konai tried touching the blue arrow and the ctrl key but that doesnt seem to do it maybe im doing it wrong https://leste.maemo.org/HowTo#How_do_I_show_the_special_keys_virtual_keyboard.3F_202:56
arno11here are the very last msgs from boot log before the freeze:12:28
arno11https://paste.debian.net/1325606/12:28
arno11then, the next msg is related to the next boot12:29
Wizzupthere might be more messages that do not get logged12:54
arno11yes probably12:57
arno11just before the last msgs, there is also iphbd starting12:59
arno11anyway we must check swap stuff12:59
arno11*first13:00
arno11sicelo: Wizzup: it seems i'm able to boot fine now17:24
arno11with last upgrade, i just removed pin entry and modest on boot17:25
arno11why modest: just because i tried to boot with overclock earlier and i noticed that modest used lot of ressources during H-D loading17:27
arno11and why overclock? : this way i'm able to run top/htop before the freeze17:30
arno11and swap seems activated for a while (already 60MB used)17:31
sicelowhat did you modify to remove modest from boo17:40
sicelo*boot17:40
arno11i just moved /usr/bin/modest and modest.launch to /home temporary17:43
arno11if it doesn't work for you, the only diff remaining with my install is the no blur transitions file.17:51
arno11Wizzup: when you have time, could you plz check if sysctl vm.page-cluster=8 on your n900 ?17:56
arno11(just to check if vm custom stuff still works on boot)17:57
Wizzuparno11: what should I check exactly?19:53
konaWizzup: arno isn't here19:55
konabut i think they wanted to know if vm.page-cluster is set to 819:56
arno11yes exactly19:56
arno11:)19:56
konai installed the 0804 image yesterday and it says 8 for me19:57
arno11ah ok thanks19:57
arno11so that's ok19:58
arno11kona: and you're able to boot fine ? no freeze ?19:59
konai tried holding the blue button and ctrl on the hardware keyboard to bring up the special keys virtual kbd but i must not be doing it right because no dialogue.19:59
konai had one freeze or something that looked like a freeze.19:59
konaright after activating zramtools20:00
konai.e. sudo apt install zram-tools && sudo reboot20:00
arno11you should not activate zram stuff imo20:00
konait booted and showed the "welcome to maemo" but nothing was clickable and the power button didn't seem to do anything when held 10 seconds, so i removed the battery.  put battery in, and it booted.20:01
konai also had a core from X20:02
konawell, Xorg, i guess.20:02
arno11ok yep20:02
arno11the core from x is 'normal' lol20:02
konaif it happens again, do you want the core?20:02
arno11nope :) i just want to know if there is no freeze on boot without zram20:04
konaok, is there an easy way to disable zram?20:04
arno11*on your device20:04
arno11it is not activated by default20:05
konait isn't by default, but i installed zramtools and now it is.20:05
arno11argh20:05
kona/dev/zram0     partition 118.4M 113.4M  10020:06
konai can re-image, haven't really done much set up yet,.20:06
arno11ok, maybe better, indeed20:07
arno11bbiab20:07
konacool20:07
freemangordonok, my leste n900 hangs soon after h-d is started20:21
freemangordonhard to say why, but it really seems OOM20:22
arno11kona: btw for special char, you should click on blue arrow and then immediately on Ctrl20:22
arno11freemangordon: ah20:22
freemangordonso, 6.6 is really not ready for stable20:23
arno11agree20:23
freemangordonand we shall find why emmc swap does not work20:23
freemangordonwell, "does not work properly'20:24
arno11yep20:24
freemangordonnow I removed SIM, to see if it make any difference20:24
arno11ok, maybe we should check if every kernel commits are ok20:25
arno11i removed modest on boot, which was using lot of ressources during H-D loading and was able to reboot fine20:25
Wizzupfreemangordon: emmc swa, not working is not the cause of the hang20:26
freemangordonWizzup: yes, I know20:26
Wizzupalso sd card swap seems genuinelly better20:26
Wizzupit's faster than ever for me, my n90020:26
freemangordonseems /swap is not activated early enough20:26
Wizzupcould be, not too hard to solve/identify20:27
WizzupI just didn't look yet20:27
freemangordonhmm, seems like SGX lock, not OOM20:27
freemangordonbut yesterday it was working fine20:27
Wizzupserial would tell20:27
freemangordonI don;t have20:27
Wizzupkinda sucks that only I have serial20:28
Wizzuplol20:28
freemangordonyeah20:28
freemangordonlemme see if there is anything in syslog20:28
WizzupI can hook it up tonight or tomorrow20:32
freemangordonno, it is not the swap20:33
freemangordonI see "swap activated" message20:33
arno11i bet on SGX20:33
arno11i see swap using 60MB just before the freeze btw20:34
freemangordonbut why would SGX start freezing?20:34
arno11iirc there are few changes in 6.620:35
freemangordonon d4 there is no issue20:36
freemangordonok, no idea what's going on, but yesterday it was booting fine20:45
freemangordonhmm, the last I see is "WAKELINES TEST OK"20:48
freemangordonhmm, no20:49
freemangordonthere is more20:49
konaarno11: n900 seems to maybe be wedged on first boot20:51
konaoh, yeah. hardware watchdog just reset it.20:52
freemangordonWizzup: yes, please, I don;t think I will be able to fix that without help20:54
konaarno11: i've got it booted under freemantle presently in case you want me to retrieve any files.20:55
freemangordonhmm, after removing SIM it boots20:57
Wizzupfrom what I could tell the freeze was random for me, with or without sim21:11
arno11same for me, totally random21:13
Wizzupok, tomorrow I will do the serial unit tests21:15
konai have no sim21:16
konajust 512GB EVO Select TF card21:16
arno11kona: ok21:20
kona2nd boot frozen too :O21:22
arno11hm, weird, but could you try to reboot without modest guys ? 3rd reboot wihout issue21:37
arno11(usually not possible)21:38
freemangordonarno11: please...21:39
freemangordonmodest cannot hang the device21:39
arno11it uses 100% cpu for a long time while HD is loading...21:43
freemangordonso?21:43
freemangordonthat should not kause device hang21:43
freemangordon*cause21:43
arno11it's enough for freezing the device for 1 min (like trackers can do)21:45
freemangordonno, I waited here at least 5 minutes21:46
freemangordonalso, that should happen *every* time, not sometimes21:46
arno11yes !21:46
freemangordonbut it does not happen every time21:46
arno11indeed21:46
freemangordontrust me, this is not modest21:46
freemangordonwith 6.1 modest was using the same CPU, no?21:47
arno11i'm not saying that's modest directly but it didn't use so much ressources previously iirc21:47
freemangordonmodest has not been changed for at least an year21:48
arno112 years21:48
arno11in fact21:48
freemangordonso, if kernel upgrade is causing userspace to misbehave, I would say this is kernel issue, not userspace21:48
arno11makes sense21:49
freemangordonso, please, do not send PR to disable modest on n900 :)21:49
arno11:P21:49
freemangordonlets just wait Wizzup to provide setial console output21:49
freemangordon*serial21:49
arno11yep21:51
uvosoom can easly hang the device permanently23:08
uvosthe kernel is _terrible_ in handling oom, allways has been23:09
freemangordonuvos: but swap is enabled23:09
freemangordonit is clearly visible in the logs23:09
uvoshow big is swap?23:09
freemangordon1G23:10
freemangordonGiB23:10
uvoshm ok23:11
arno11i tried with smaller swap, same issue btw23:11
arno11and even if there is23:11
arno11oops23:11
freemangordon6.1 with smaller swap had no issues23:12
uvosi wonder if we can run out of pined ram23:12
freemangordonI doubt, when device boots normally, there is about 100MiB free RAM23:12
freemangordonand 30-40MiB swap used23:13
freemangordonso I would bet on kernel oops/SGX freeze rather than on OOM23:14
uvossgx is obv pretty strange as d4 is perfetcly happy23:15
Wizzupnot the same hw23:15
uvosi dont think there should be too manny code paths different there23:15
uvosWizzup: yeah but its very close23:15
Wizzupin any case I'll just attach serial and hopefully we won't have to hypothesis23:15
Wizzuphypothesize23:15

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