libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2024-08-05

Wizzupfreemangordon: you don't need n900 to recreate blur, it's slow on mapphones too00:26
Wizzupit's the main reason status menu opens slow I think00:38
Wizzupsicelo: also, icon for otp? :D00:43
freemangordonWizzup: how it opens slow (h-s-m)? to me it is normal07:36
freemangordonarno11: so, I need to know which exactly change makes it faster07:57
arno11freemangordon: [home] radius = 0 and radius_more = 009:30
arno11instead of 12 and 1609:31
freemangordonhmm, ok, that does not make sense :)09:31
freemangordonthat should affect pressing shortcuts only09:31
freemangordonbut ok, will check09:31
arno11seems just a workaround to block blur09:31
freemangordonwhich blur?09:32
arno11it doesn't really deactivate it09:32
freemangordonanyway, will check09:32
arno11see tmo threads09:32
arno11*about blur09:33
freemangordonlink?09:33
arno11(sorry, a bit busy atm) i forgot to mention that some themes override some transitions, that's maybe why we observe different behaviours from a device to another09:34
arno11bbl09:34
freemangordonok09:35
sicelowhen i boot my n900, once everything is loaded, it then hangs completely. any ideas?09:42
siceloe.g. if i boot and don't interact with device, after booting, screen turns off (which is normal), then i can't wake up device anymore09:43
arno11freemangordon:# Blurring of the home view09:44
arno11# -- radius: amount of iterations of blur filter to perform when not zoooming09:44
arno11#            eg. for dialogs09:44
arno11# -- radius_more: amount of iterations of blur filter to perform when zooming09:44
arno11https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905&page=24609:44
arno11sicelo: that's the actual boot issue (freeze)09:45
arno11it works if you restart 3-4 times09:45
sicelommm, ok09:46
arno11but that's a pita09:48
arno11seems oom but not sure09:48
arno11that's totaly random09:48
arno11freemangordon: iirc (from cssu threads), the 2 radius settings in [home] make all transitions buggy09:54
arno11it has never been solved apparently09:55
arno11it was not really visible on D4 (the slowness), excepting for h-s-m and power button menu09:57
arno11that's all i know09:59
siceloif it's oom, shouldn't device recover eventually?10:03
arno11tht's why i'm really not sure it is oom10:05
arno11and sometimes i'm able to see that swap is already activated before the freeze10:06
uvos__linux can absulty essentaly hang indefinately on oom10:09
uvos__with the oom killer never activateing10:09
arno11ok10:13
arno11iirc this issue appeared in december10:13
uvos__could just be leste growing in size10:14
arno11but now that's more complicated to boot10:14
arno11yes indeed10:14
uvos__oculd be something else too10:14
uvos__needs serial output10:14
arno11yep10:15
arno11bbl10:18
Wizzupsicelo: this is with latest changes right?11:09
siceloiirc it was there before, but does seem worse now somehow11:42
Wizzupsicelo: just checking if you got sd swap properly11:58
freemangordonWizzup: so, what will happen if you don;'t have sd swap partition?12:00
freemangordonalso, I don;t understand why we don;t try to find the regression, but hacking around instead12:01
Wizzup/swap is on rootfs so no need for swap partition12:59
Wizzupbetter first see if it is fixed in latest kernel13:00
Wizzupbtw I think the first thing to check is if swap is enabled early enough in boot process13:28
Wizzupif it enabled relatively late, then all bets are off13:28
arno11freemangordon: to resume: we have 3 issues on boot maybe linked each other: emmc swap very slow with kernel 6.6, hsm crash and freeze on boot with 6.1 and 6.613:31
arno11Wizzup: true13:32
arno11Wizzup: new devel upgrade works fine14:23
arno11the new swap has been added but it doesn't check if a previous swapfile is there14:24
arno11btw the n900-perf.conf script seems to not work anymore. can someone confirm ?14:25
Wizzuparno11: it checks for /swap14:25
Wizzupif you named it something else, then yeah14:25
arno11ah ok14:25
arno11makes sense, no probs anyway14:25
arno11so i tried to reboot without hsm earlier, and still the same boot issue14:26
arno11but able to reboot fine after the last upgrade14:26
arno11Wizzup: btw do you see an error on boot with n900-perf.conf script ?14:46
arno11scratch that, that's just on my device15:16
Wizzupfreemangordon: we're finding that we will indeed likely need keyring for matrix and omemo xmpp keys16:24
arno11sicelo: did you upgrade to the last devel stuff btw ?17:00
siceloyes17:12
arno11ok and able to boot now ?17:14
arno11just curious17:15
arno11i already try to remove many things from xsession and custom n900 stuff from init.d, still the same issue (until the last upgrade, seems better now)17:16
arno11so we definitely need to check when swap is really starting on boot17:18
arno11btw hsm crash is definitely a different problem bcs n900 freezes without it on boot17:29
arno11same for vm custom stuff17:29
arno11and it still happens randomly17:30
arno11(just as a reminder)17:31
arno11same for cmtspeech17:34
arno11ah, i didn't try to boot without nokia-modem17:34
Wizzuparno11: first thing to check is when swam is loaded I think17:37
Wizzupoh this is for your status menu issue?17:38
freemangordonWizzup: I think I am missing something in regards to that 'blur' issue17:41
freemangordonyou say opening h-s-m is slow, right?17:42
freemangordonand also scrolling?17:42
freemangordonarno11: did you have chance to measure FPS?17:42
arno11i have to go now, but this evening/night should be ok for fps17:44
freemangordonok17:44
arno11Wizzup: yes for swap, that's what i said as well :P17:45
arno11bbl17:46
freemangordonok, I upgraded, enabled swap on emmc and disabled /swap and I see no performance issue19:43
freemangordonalso, I put sim card in that device, albeit it is old one and will not register to the network19:44
freemangordonhmm, yeah, device seems to freeze for couple of seconds19:48
arno11freemangordon: got the fps results:19:51
freemangordonplease pastebin, irc does not allow more than one line19:53
arno11with no radius, 44 fps in app menu, 30 fps on desktops19:53
freemangordonarno11: sorry, what is app menu?19:54
arno1125 fps in app menu with radius enable19:54
arno11the icons menu19:54
freemangordonhildon-status-menu?19:54
arno11nope19:54
freemangordonlauncher?19:55
arno11the menu where there are all apps19:55
arno11yes the launcher19:55
freemangordonah, so launcher19:55
arno11there is a huge diff with blur vs no blur19:55
arno11btw enabling fps mode slows down the device a bit19:55
arno11so probably around 50 fps with no blur19:56
freemangordonok, but 25 fps on n900 is not exactly 'slow'19:57
arno11maybe but the feeling is slow19:57
arno11and apps are slow to launch19:57
freemangordonwell, that's a personal POV :)19:58
freemangordonok, lemme disable it to check19:58
arno11hm not really imo19:58
arno11yes you should try19:58
freemangordonhere desktops scroll with > 50 fps and blur enabled19:59
freemangordon5520:00
freemangordonyear, rigth20:02
arno11???20:02
freemangordonwithout blur it is very fast20:02
freemangordonbut, blur should not affect the scrolling20:02
arno11yes agree20:03
freemangordonas it is just a texture20:03
freemangordonok, will have a look20:03
arno11ok20:03
siceloarno11: so after upgrading is when i could no longer really use the device :-)20:05
sicelothere is /swap file on SD card when I mount it on pc20:06
sicelobut yes, right now i can't use Leste on the N90020:06
arno11wow :(20:06
Wizzupsicelo: did the swap cause issue?20:56
siceloi don't know ... i doubt though20:57
Wizzupok20:57
siceloi was just saying /swap exists... which i guess means i'm up-to-date?20:57
Wizzupmhm21:01
arno11if it is not swap, what else ? kernel ?21:02
arno11i already try to remove lot of stuff on boot, still the same21:03
freemangordonarno11: ok, got 50 fps with blur enabled21:24
freemangordonthe issue comes from saturate shader21:24
freemangordonwe may want to introduce additional setting to be able to disable it, but lemme try to optimize it a bit first21:25
arno11ok great !21:28
konaok i probably am just unable to read but how to get the u-boot menu on n900?23:34
konait gave me the menu once and i booted to fremantle and now i want to boot leste and it just keeps going to fremantle.23:37
arno11to get the menu you need to keep the keyboard opened23:39
konaoh, thanks23:48

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