| freem | one of the things they'll probably need to check is for the files and folders to have the good GID/UID, if they come back. They mentioned transfering their home, after all. | 03:00 |
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| freem | (it's something easy to miss, and I'd bet it can create relatively subtle problems...) | 03:02 |
| TorC | Troubleshooting sound in Excalibur. Tried a little looking, and I'm not sure whether I'm dealing with essetially an incomplete install for sound or if there's something broken. | 04:13 |
| gnarface | could easily be both of course... | 04:14 |
| gnarface | what does "dpkg -l |grep alsa" say? | 04:14 |
| TorC | pulseaudio is definitely not installed, alsa-utils is, but I'm not certain alsa itself is fully installed. pipewire and wireplumber are both installed. | 04:14 |
| gnarface | alsa-base alsa-oss alsa-tools alsa-topology-conf alsa-ucm-conf alsa-utils | 04:14 |
| gnarface | try all those | 04:15 |
| gnarface | uh... one or more of them may not be present anymore in excalibur, just ignore those | 04:15 |
| TorC | Ah, right. | 04:15 |
| gnarface | you're using the stock kernel? | 04:15 |
| gnarface | i think there's a choice between pulseaudio and pipewire you can make, one might work better for you than the other | 04:16 |
| gnarface | personally i like going without, and just use bare alsa | 04:16 |
| TorC | Yes, stock kernel, did install AMD GPU non-free from Devuan repository. | 04:16 |
| TorC | Added alsa-tools, earlier two don't exist, latter three were already installed. | 04:17 |
| gnarface | alright, now try "speaker-test -c 2 -t wav" | 04:17 |
| gnarface | if speaker-test works, then it's a problem with your program, if speaker-test doesn't work, you might have a problem with alsa itself | 04:19 |
| TorC | I think the relevant two lines: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1000:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave | 04:20 |
| TorC | Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory | 04:20 |
| gnarface | hmm | 04:20 |
| gnarface | make sure you're in the audio group | 04:20 |
| gnarface | also try "speaker-test -c 2 -D hw:0,0 -t wav" | 04:21 |
| gnarface | if you switched back to pulseaudio and reported it started working normally again, you wouldn't be the first, but we can narrow it down with a couple of simple tests | 04:22 |
| TorC | Playback error line again, first error line went away. | 04:22 |
| gnarface | you have no custom alsa config in place, right? | 04:23 |
| TorC | Not that I know of. | 04:23 |
| gnarface | is pavucontrol installed? | 04:23 |
| gnarface | i'm not clear on whether pavucontrol is supposed to be used for pipewire too or not | 04:24 |
| TorC | Not installed. | 04:24 |
| TorC | Yes, I'm in audio group. | 04:25 |
| gnarface | get me the output of "aplay -l" and "aplay -L" separately, but don't paste it in here, use paste.debian.net please | 04:25 |
| gnarface | (or just /msg them to me) | 04:25 |
| gnarface | just gotta do a quick sanity check to make sure we're trying the right device | 04:26 |
| TorC | This is a /home from Chimaera, which technically goes back all the way to Ubuntu Feisty Fawn, IIRC. | 04:27 |
| gnarface | well make sure there's no ~/.asoundrc | 04:28 |
| TorC | Nope, no ~/.asoundrc | 04:28 |
| gnarface | so, without intervention from pavucontrol/pulseaudio or whatever pipewire has to select audio devices, alsa itself will just default to the first one it finds | 04:29 |
| gnarface | which might not even be the device you want | 04:29 |
| gnarface | it's just usually the fastest to boot when the hardware powers up (usually a pci device) | 04:30 |
| TorC | http://paste.debian.net/1350465/ | 04:30 |
| TorC | There are enough outputs that a wrong one is possible, though my thinking is until sound play attempts stop throwing errors we're not that far along. | 04:31 |
| gnarface | looks like it would try a HDMI device first | 04:33 |
| gnarface | and if not throw an error... | 04:34 |
| TorC | Well, only one of those. | 04:34 |
| rrq | try card 1: speaker-test -c 2 -D hw:2,0 -t wav | 04:35 |
| TorC | Unless... is it going to call displayport an HDMI? | 04:35 |
| rrq | oops.. try card 2: speaker-test -c 2 -D hw:2,0 -t wav | 04:36 |
| gnarface | uh, it actually might | 04:37 |
| gnarface | you can see what is connected to what port with xrandr | 04:37 |
| TorC | xrandr shows Displayports as DisplayPort-n, with one as -m-n. | 04:39 |
| TorC | rrq, haven't heard sound, but your commands play things. | 04:40 |
| gnarface | hmm, maybe pavucontrol works with pipewire too? | 04:40 |
| gnarface | well you can try them all in order with different values for -D but if pavucontrol works we're overcomplicating things | 04:41 |
| TorC | from aplay -l, card 0, device 9, card 1 device 3, and card 2 device 0 should be connected. | 04:42 |
| gnarface | hw:[card],[device] | 04:42 |
| gnarface | oh! TorC if speaker-test didn't error, said it was playing, but you just didn't hear anything, then you just have a volume problem on that one | 04:44 |
| rrq | maybe "amixer -c 2" says something about volume and mutedness? | 04:44 |
| gnarface | you can check in alsamixer too | 04:45 |
| gnarface | same values, probably | 04:45 |
| rustyaxe | look at qpwgraph or such and make sure the plumbing is sane too, if the rest of things fails | 04:45 |
| rrq | though "-D hw:2,0" plays to the card directly so there's no plumbing involved | 04:46 |
| gnarface | also, for HDMI devices there is also a hardware volume control somewhere | 04:46 |
| TorC | Testing with just a set of earbuds in any given output, including for HDMI in the headphone out port. | 04:47 |
| TorC | Well, front panel headphone jack has been convinced to work, so I've got one piece of HW that plays. | 04:49 |
| gnarface | so, according to google, pavucontrol should work with pipewire too | 04:51 |
| gnarface | so in theory, all you should have to do is install it and use it to select the right device as default | 04:51 |
| gnarface | otherwise, you'd have to set up a custom alsa config file | 04:51 |
| gnarface | which could be done per-user or globally | 04:51 |
| gnarface | if pavucontrol still doesn't work, switching back to pulseaudio may still be an option | 04:52 |
| gnarface | (or doing without, really, unless you need network broadcasting features) | 04:53 |
| TorC | Hmmm... Pavucontrol is "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..." | 04:54 |
| TorC | I guess I'll just try installing pulseaudio and see if I can be done with. | 04:54 |
| TorC | Well, that did it. Thanks for the help all. | 05:00 |
| TorC | Maybe somewhere in the KDE subsystem there should be a pulseaudio dependency, but I don't know as I know enough to verify for modifying a package. | 05:02 |
| TorC | Interestingingly, xrandr sees DisplayPort properly, but the audio system just sees them as more HDMI. | 05:03 |
| aquishix | Greetings. | 05:35 |
| aquishix | Has anyone here ever successfully gotten a Windows guest OS running in Devuan with PCI-E passthrough (VT-d)? | 05:36 |
| jruschme | New Devuan user here. Anyone using Microsoft Edge with Devuan? | 18:23 |
| gnarface | probably not, but maybe stick around just in case... | 18:24 |
| gnarface | feel free to join #devuan-offtopic too | 18:24 |
| gnarface | we try to keep this channel clear for support issues. are you having a support issue? | 18:24 |
| jruschme | Yes. Edge isn't able to log in for sync purposes. Chrome works fine, just not Edge. | 18:25 |
| gnarface | how are you running edge exactly? i don't see it in the repos... | 18:26 |
| Hurgotron | jruschme: Interesting, didn't know that it existed. Will try, just for kicks :) | 18:26 |
| gnarface | jruschme: also, which release of devuan? | 18:27 |
| jruschme | daedalus | 18:27 |
| jruschme | with Plasma desktop as installed from netinstall | 18:28 |
| jruschme | edge installed official Microsoft deb | 18:29 |
| Hurgotron | that was... surprisingly easy | 18:29 |
| jruschme | Haven't had this issue on Debian 12 or any Ubuntu variant. | 18:29 |
| gnarface | strange... | 18:30 |
| jruschme | Hurgotron, did you try to log in to sync settings? | 18:30 |
| Hurgotron | jruschme: I don't even know to log in where :) But if I click the button nothing happens | 18:31 |
| gnarface | any error logs? | 18:31 |
| Hurgotron | I *just* installed it. Will check | 18:32 |
| Hurgotron | edge_auth_errors.cc(528)] EDGE_IDENTITY: CompleteSignInProcessInternal: Error: Primary Error: kUnexpected, Secondary Error: kDLLNotLoaded, Platform error: 0, Error string: | 18:33 |
| Hurgotron | well. | 18:34 |
| gnarface | super useful error messaging as usual from microsoft :-| | 18:34 |
| gnarface | i'm just gonna guess "needs systemd to work but doesn't actually check for it" | 18:34 |
| Hurgotron | jruschme: I guess that's supposed to be some Microsoft cloud account? | 18:37 |
| gnarface | well there could be some tls layer error or character string encoding mismatch or the like screwing with authentication, but with errors like that we can only guess | 18:40 |
| Hurgotron | wtf that thing doesn't even quite cleanly | 18:41 |
| Hurgotron | *quit | 18:41 |
| cousin_luigi | What could I use to capture some binary snippet from a serial port? | 18:41 |
| cousin_luigi | I have a machine that sends strange stuff on reboot and I would like to try and interpret it | 18:42 |
| gnarface | the only thing i can think of is to check the debian and ubuntu ldd results and make sure you've got them all, since systemd might also be depended on indirectly just for the dependency preinstalls | 18:42 |
| gnarface | cousin_luigi: just pipe to file should work... | 18:43 |
| gnarface | ... i think, anyway | 18:43 |
| rustyaxe | Strange stuff? Maybe the baud rate changes at some point. Annoying my console server's boot loader is 9600 bauud then we go to 115200 | 18:43 |
| gnarface | could just be line noise | 18:43 |
| cousin_luigi | rustyaxe: No, this happens during POST | 18:43 |
| cousin_luigi | gnarface: Always the same? | 18:44 |
| gnarface | oh, no then | 18:44 |
| gnarface | probably not, anyway | 18:44 |
| cousin_luigi | I can't copypaste it via minicom. | 18:44 |
| cousin_luigi | But I could try a different baudrate indeed | 18:44 |
| rustyaxe | i'd try 9600 8n1 first | 18:44 |
| rustyaxe | a lot of stuff defaults there | 18:44 |
| rustyaxe | 9600 115200 57600 probably most common @ 8n1 | 18:45 |
| cousin_luigi | 7e1 was also popular in my time | 18:45 |
| rustyaxe | ok grandpa, well serial ports arent 12V/-12V anymore, usually 5V; tho smoll devices are 3.3V! ;) | 18:46 |
| rustyaxe | so dont be blowing up the arduinos with your 486 (: | 18:47 |
| cousin_luigi | rustyaxe: Well, it's rs-232 on my motherboard connected to another mini-pc with an onboard serial too. | 19:28 |
| cousin_luigi | So it might very well be +12/-12 | 19:28 |
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