| gnarface | there might have been another step in there... like copying his passwords into a excel spreadsheet and not realizing the column setting for plain text fields was initial-casing everything... | 00:00 |
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| gnarface | but my point is, it's a bad path to go down either way | 00:00 |
| gnarface | anyway, if you're gonna do it, i recommend you only do it on storage partitions, assuming it's a mount option. if you do this on the whole system it might cause weird breakages unexpectedly (that chmod 777 thing will break your user's ssh config, FYI) | 00:04 |
| gnarface | (and maybe other things but that's the one i know off off the top of my head) | 00:05 |
| freem | apparently, you can enable it only on some folders, when the partition is configured to enable that | 00:05 |
| gnarface | terrifying. | 00:06 |
| freem | and yes, it would be a bad idea to enable that for system, on a system historically designed with case-sensitiveness in mind | 00:06 |
| freem | that at least is obvious to me :) | 00:06 |
| freem | systems are created and maintained with constraints, including historical ones. Bending those for critical stuff is a bad idea (hello systemd) | 00:07 |
| _myst | hey guys I have an issue and I've been advised yo upgrade the kernel from 6.1.0-10, I'm new devuan, where is a guide for upgrading the kernel | 02:39 |
| _myst | thanks | 02:39 |
| gnarface | i can walk you through it, i don't know of any guide in specific to that, but it's the same process as with debian | 02:40 |
| gnarface | where did you get that advice though, i think they're up to 6.1.0-20something | 02:41 |
| gnarface | does it have to actually be 6.1.0-10 or do you just want the latest stable one? | 02:41 |
| gnarface | _myst: ^ | 02:41 |
| _myst | lol chat gpt .https://dpaste.com/325PAG4LK | 02:43 |
| gnarface | hmm, yea at first glance the latest one seems to be 6.1.0-30 now, so it must just be stale info | 02:44 |
| gnarface | anyway, if you want to just always have the latest one, you just need to install "linux-image-amd64" and that'll pull in the latest with your regular updates | 02:44 |
| gnarface | if you have a nvidia card you'll also need "linux-headers-amd64" | 02:45 |
| gnarface | maybe it's naive to assume you have a amd64 system but almost all of them are... | 02:45 |
| gnarface | make sure though first | 02:45 |
| _myst | i should of provided this detail https://dpaste.com/DDL382MTP | 02:45 |
| gnarface | brb | 02:46 |
| _myst | the first issue is about the nvme, i need to blacklist i965 on the gpu issue as it's not a vulka, just a i915 | 02:46 |
| gnarface | sorry, a bit distracted here, but can you paste to paste.debian.net or just /msg it to me, whatever you want me to look at? | 02:47 |
| _myst | thanks | 02:48 |
| gnarface | i can take a look in a moment | 02:48 |
| _myst | thx | 02:48 |
| _myst | I just sent a paste, but where does it goto as there is no paste link | 02:53 |
| gnarface | paste.debian.net should have redirected you to the result page | 02:54 |
| _myst | no | 02:55 |
| gnarface | just copy+paste the location bar contents | 02:55 |
| gnarface | hmm | 02:55 |
| gnarface | you sure you went to the right page? | 02:55 |
| _myst | this is what I sent.https://dpaste.com/CW3WZN35J but i used https://paste.debian.net/ | 02:56 |
| _myst | https://dpaste.com/CW3WZN35J | 02:57 |
| gnarface | any error message from paste.debian.net? | 02:58 |
| _myst | ahh line breaks https://paste.debian.net/1345569/ | 03:00 |
| gnarface | heh, well 2 lines you could have just pasted in here | 03:06 |
| gnarface | it's 3 or more where you might catch the notice of the anti-flood bo | 03:06 |
| gnarface | bot* | 03:06 |
| gnarface | _myst: what's the actual problem though? i'm not aware of any issues specific to this hardware... maybe something weird about booting from nvme and needing something set specifically, but nothing that would be different between minor builds of the stable kernel afaik | 03:07 |
| gnarface | the Intel i5 is a "amd64" architecture CPU, if that's what you're worried about, however you should know that it would be possible to install the "i386" architecture build of the distro onto this system as well | 03:10 |
| gnarface | you might have done so in error, or on purpose, but if you have a lot of RAM it was probably in error | 03:11 |
| gnarface | weird issues are possible, if rare, just because it's not as well tested on this hardware... | 03:12 |
| gnarface | just making sure here... | 03:12 |
| _myst | thanks. | 03:12 |
| gnarface | yea, if you have more than 4GB of ram you most likely want the whole install to be amd64, not just the kernel | 03:12 |
| gnarface | if you have 4GB or less, the difference will not matter as much | 03:13 |
| _myst | this is 16gb | 03:13 |
| gnarface | what does "uname -a" tell you? | 03:13 |
| _myst | 6.1.0-10-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.38-1 (2023-07-14) x86_64 | 03:13 |
| gnarface | ok, good | 03:14 |
| gnarface | you should just be able to install the package "linux-image-6.1.0-30-amd64" then reboot, to have the latest kernel | 03:14 |
| _myst | should i beconcerned about the nvme error? | 03:14 |
| _myst | will do now, thanks | 03:15 |
| gnarface | i didn't see any nvme error, just a line that identifies the hardware... did you forget to add that to the paste? | 03:15 |
| gnarface | i do recall some issue with having a nvme drive as your boot drive, but like i said i don't think it would be different between this kernel and the one you already have so... and the issue i'm vaguely remembering might be ARM specific anyway | 03:16 |
| gnarface | you're not using full disk encryption, are you? | 03:16 |
| gnarface | anyway, like i said if you want it to just always update the kernel along with your regular system updates, install the "linux-image-amd64" meta package | 03:17 |
| gnarface | some people don't like that so it's optional | 03:17 |
| _myst | no encryption, and linux-image-6.1.0-30-amd64 is not showing in the apt-cache search | 03:17 |
| gnarface | do "apt-get update" once first | 03:17 |
| gnarface | you probably just have a stale cache | 03:18 |
| gnarface | if it still isn't showing up after that we have to sanity check your /etc/apt/sources.list file | 03:18 |
| gnarface | to be clear though, i am still not sure what your actual issue was, and you clearly already had 6.1.0-10 installed, so i'm not sure what chatgpt thought your issue was either | 03:20 |
| _myst | the latest listed is linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 | 03:20 |
| gnarface | (that said, stable-to-stable kernel updates should always be safe) | 03:21 |
| gnarface | (it's a good idea to have a live image on usb or something to boot from in an emergency if something goes wrong though) | 03:21 |
| onefang | ChatGPT is hallucinating linux kernel issues now? I missed that bit. | 03:21 |
| _myst | https://paste.debian.net/1345571/ | 03:22 |
| gnarface | _myst: don't install the "-rt-" (realtime) kernel let's see your /etc/apt/sources.list | 03:22 |
| gnarface | _myst: ok, i see that paste, but still doesn't include the actual error. what was the error itself? and are your BIOS and nvme drive firmwares up-to-date? | 03:23 |
| _myst | sources https://paste.debian.net/1345572/ | 03:23 |
| gnarface | this could be a red herring for all i know | 03:23 |
| gnarface | _myst: ok, that's a bit incorrect, stand by i'll give you a fixed one | 03:23 |
| _myst | nvme nvme0: failed to set APST feature (2) | 03:25 |
| gnarface | hmm, not sure what that's about, but if it isn't preventing booting i'm not sure it's worth worrying about. anyone here have a NVME drive that can confirm? | 03:25 |
| gnarface | _myst: anyway, change your /etc/apt/sources.list to this, then run "apt-get update" again and then your apt-cache searches should see everything: https://paste.debian.net/1345573/ | 03:26 |
| onefang | Would that be in syslog? | 03:26 |
| onefang | I just rebooted, from my NVME drive, not seeing "APST" anywhere in my logs. | 03:27 |
| gnarface | onefang: a quick google search tells me this error would be seen after waking up from sleep | 03:28 |
| _myst | https://paste.debian.net/1345574/ | 03:28 |
| onefang | Ah I don't do sleep. | 03:28 |
| _myst | 1:30pm here | 03:28 |
| _myst | lol | 03:29 |
| gnarface | _myst: we mean the computer :-p | 03:29 |
| _myst | i feel like a computer at this moment no sleep | 03:29 |
| _myst | ok.. | 03:29 |
| gnarface | i would check for new drive and BIOS firmware | 03:30 |
| gnarface | i would do that first, especially with this brand combo | 03:30 |
| onefang | 12:30pm here. Aussie? | 03:30 |
| gnarface | well, update the kernel anyway, but if that fixes nothing, then try the firmware | 03:30 |
| gnarface | then personally i'd probably also just give up on sleeping it to avoid the bug until some hopeful future date, but i know that's not practical for everyone... | 03:31 |
| gnarface | there's always the backports kernel but i wouldn't want to get crazy just yet | 03:31 |
| onefang | That kind of crazy is for my super desktop. RT backports kernel. | 03:32 |
| _myst | Tis is a multi boot & all the linux are saying the same thing about the drive as well as the other bugs | 03:37 |
| gnarface | well, i wouldn't say Kingston is my favorite brand | 03:37 |
| gnarface | i found a reddit thread from about a year ago on this and the only confirmed solution was [user bought different brand of nvme drive] | 03:38 |
| gnarface | i wouldn't necessarily give up that easy though... did you install the 6.1.0-30 kernel yet? | 03:38 |
| gnarface | the only thing stable kernel updates are for is bug fixes, so there's certainly a possibility it's fixed already | 03:39 |
| onefang | Lunch time. Back later. | 03:40 |
| gnarface | i wonder if it's only a problem because it's the boot drive | 03:43 |
| gnarface | maybe if it was a secondary drive there wouldn't be an issue with it | 03:43 |
| gnarface | _myst: there's also some kernel command-line parameters you can try that people have suggested, nobody in that thread i found said they worked but ymmv | 03:43 |
| _myst | not yet | 03:49 |
| _myst | upgrading now ! | 03:52 |
| _myst | rebooting | 03:53 |
| gnarface | good luck | 03:54 |
| Mystified | ugraded | 03:56 |
| Mystified | no change still the same error. | 03:56 |
| Mystified | i'll leave that error for now and focus on network ath10k firmware: failed to load ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:01:00.0.bin | 03:57 |
| gnarface | oh, that one is easy, just install the firmware-atheros package | 03:58 |
| gnarface | (might require a reboot) | 04:01 |
| Mystified | gnarface: rebooted | 04:04 |
| Mystified | https://paste.debian.net/1345586/ | 04:04 |
| Mystified | i'll install firmware-atheros package | 04:04 |
| Mystified | firmware-atheros is already installed at the requested version (20230210-5) | 04:05 |
| gnarface | hmm. i wonder if it's not new enough... the i915 firmware is in another package i think | 04:05 |
| Mystified | i915 is gpu. ath is lan | 04:06 |
| gnarface | hmm, this hardware might require newer firmware and kernel packages | 04:07 |
| gnarface | there is newer in backports... | 04:07 |
| Mystified | how to enable backports | 04:09 |
| gnarface | same as the other lines except "daedalus-backports" instead of for example "daedalus-security" | 04:10 |
| gnarface | same as the other deb lines | 04:11 |
| gnarface | you have 3 deb lines and 3 deb-src lines | 04:11 |
| gnarface | just copy one of the deb lines and change it to "daedalus-backports" then apt-get update again | 04:11 |
| gnarface | after that your apt-get and apt-cache commands will use it if you add "-t daedalus-backports" | 04:11 |
| gnarface | (otherwise, they should ignore it but just to be safe i'd comment it out when you're not using it) | 04:12 |
| Mystified | so just add this to sources | 04:13 |
| Mystified | https://paste.debian.net/1345587/ | 04:13 |
| gnarface | uh, stand by, in combat again | 04:13 |
| * onefang hopes that's metaphorical combat. | 04:14 | |
| gnarface | onefang: it's uh, world of warcraft | 04:15 |
| onefang | Ah virtual combat. | 04:15 |
| gnarface | alright, i'm back again | 04:19 |
| gnarface | Mystified: not literally like that | 04:19 |
| gnarface | Mystified: literally like this: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware | 04:20 |
| gnarface | append, don't replace any lines | 04:20 |
| gnarface | and i don't think there's a deb-src for this, so leave that out | 04:21 |
| gnarface | you should see some 6.10 kernels in there, and newer firmware packages | 04:21 |
| gnarface | they are paired together, don't mix and match | 04:21 |
| onefang | deb-src for daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware works fine for me. | 04:23 |
| gnarface | oh, is it there? | 04:23 |
| gnarface | Mystified: go ahead and add the deb-src line too if you want then i guess, but i doubt you'll be using it, and either way, like i said, comment them out and run "apt-get update" again after this exercise. you do not want to do a general full update of everything from backports | 04:24 |
| onefang | Never seen any complaints, but don't think I've actually tried to use it. | 04:24 |
| gnarface | it's rare, but occasionally someone will package something wrong (*cough* Nvidia *cough*) and it will accidentally pull in all of backports, then you tend to get weird stability issues because those packages are generally not tested against each other like the regular stable ones | 04:25 |
| Mystified | added deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware to sources & then ran update. | 04:25 |
| Mystified | tried to install | 04:26 |
| Mystified | aptitude install firmware-atheros firmware-atheros is already installed at the requested version (20230210-5) | 04:26 |
| gnarface | Mystified: you gotta add "-t daedalus-backports" | 04:26 |
| gnarface | to the command-line | 04:26 |
| gnarface | like this for example: apt-cache -t daedalus-backports search ^linux\-image\-6\.10.* | 04:26 |
| Mystified | ahh thankyou | 04:27 |
| Mystified | tahnk you master | 04:28 |
| gnarface | np | 04:28 |
| Mystified | apt install -t daedalus-backports ^firmware-atheros* same version | 04:33 |
| gnarface | no, don't use the wildcards with the install command | 04:33 |
| gnarface | those are just for searches | 04:33 |
| Mystified | yes but still no other package | 04:33 |
| gnarface | hmm, weird, shows up on pkginfo.devuan.org.... | 04:34 |
| Mystified | 20240709-2~bpo12+1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports/non-free-firmware | 04:35 |
| Mystified | amd64 | 04:35 |
| gnarface | yea, that's the one | 04:36 |
| Mystified | so I need to add this | 04:36 |
| gnarface | bpo means backports | 04:36 |
| Mystified | http://deb.devuan.org/merged | 04:36 |
| Mystified | ceres/non-free-firmware | 04:36 |
| Mystified | amd64 | 04:36 |
| gnarface | no no | 04:36 |
| gnarface | don't use ceres | 04:36 |
| Mystified | ok | 04:36 |
| gnarface | the backports one should be what you want | 04:36 |
| Mystified | it does not show with the -t | 04:37 |
| gnarface | hmm, weird... you sure? | 04:39 |
| gnarface | double-check your commands | 04:39 |
| Mystified | apt-cache -t daedalus-backports search ^firmware-athero* | 04:41 |
| Mystified | firmware-atheros - Binary firmware for Qualcomm Atheros wireless cards | 04:41 |
| gnarface | try it like this: apt-get update && apt-cache -t daedalus-backports search ^firmware\-atheros$ | 04:42 |
| gnarface | you should see version 20240709-2~bpo12+1, which is the backports version; the "bpo12" substring indicates it is daedalus-backports | 04:43 |
| gnarface | the stable version you already had installed should have been 20230210-5 | 04:43 |
| Mystified | nope.. | 04:43 |
| Mystified | no 2024 | 04:43 |
| * gnarface sighs | 04:44 | |
| gnarface | paste your sources.list file again so i can sanity check it | 04:44 |
| Mystified | would you like to check my sources list | 04:44 |
| gnarface | yea let's double check | 04:44 |
| onefang | SNAP! | 04:44 |
| gnarface | maybe you got unlucky and there is something wrong in the repos but usually they're okay... | 04:44 |
| gnarface | pkginfo.devaun.org indicates it should certainly be there... | 04:44 |
| fluffywolf | still on chimaera-backports or something? | 04:44 |
| fluffywolf | I see 20240709-2~bpo12+1 here... | 04:45 |
| gnarface | hmm, yea, Mystified show me the output of "dpkg -l |grep atheros" too | 04:45 |
| fluffywolf | also, holy long descrption, batman. lol. the stable version's long info is like huge. | 04:45 |
| Mystified | https://paste.debian.net/1345595/ | 04:45 |
| gnarface | that sources.list looks fine | 04:46 |
| Mystified | pkg -l |grep atheros firmware-atheros 20230210-5 | 04:46 |
| fluffywolf | does apt-get update show anything interesting? | 04:46 |
| Mystified | no | 04:46 |
| gnarface | 20230210-5 is definitely current stable... | 04:47 |
| gnarface | try "apt-get update" once more see if it changes anything | 04:47 |
| fluffywolf | dpkg -l is showing what you have installed, not what's available | 04:47 |
| gnarface | deb.devaun.org is a DNS round-robin, maybe one is just out of sync and you got unlucky | 04:47 |
| fluffywolf | no? | 04:47 |
| gnarface | yea | 04:47 |
| Mystified | https://paste.debian.net/1345597/ | 04:47 |
| fluffywolf | aptitude != apt... | 04:48 |
| gnarface | Mystified: note that aptitude and apt/apt-get/apt-cache have separate caches | 04:48 |
| gnarface | Mystified: try: aptitude -t daedalus-backports search firmware-atheros | 04:48 |
| gnarface | fluffywolf: it's -t with aptitude too though, right? | 04:49 |
| fluffywolf | or don't use aptitude. lol. it used to be awesome, but it's really not been keeping up with debian's progress, and now kinda sucks... | 04:49 |
| Mystified | https://paste.debian.net/1345598/ | 04:49 |
| fluffywolf | dunno. I stopped using aptitude. | 04:49 |
| onefang | There is an update of package mirrors in progress right now. Wait ten minutes then try again. | 04:49 |
| gnarface | Mystified: no, like this: apt -t daedalus-backports show firmware-atheros | 04:49 |
| fluffywolf | you need -a with apt show. or use apt-get. | 04:50 |
| gnarface | hmm, i always use apt-get | 04:50 |
| fluffywolf | why do you keep using different commands than people suggest using? | 04:50 |
| fluffywolf | don't give an answer when someone asks about apt-get when you actually ran aptitude, for example. | 04:50 |
| gnarface | Mystified: like this, literally: apt-cache -t daedalus-backports show firmware-atheros | 04:50 |
| fluffywolf | apt-cache doesn't seem to do -t | 04:51 |
| Mystified | Version: 20230210-5 | 04:51 |
| gnarface | hmm... | 04:52 |
| fluffywolf | did you run apt-get update? not apt, aptitude, or any other command. | 04:52 |
| gnarface | i could have sworn it was -t with apt-cache... | 04:52 |
| Mystified | apt-get updateReading package lists... Done | 04:52 |
| fluffywolf | I tried your command here and it silently ignored -t (which should be a bug) and showed both... | 04:52 |
| gnarface | Mystified: what do you get if you do this, exactly now?: apt-get -t daedalus-backports install firmware-atheros | 04:53 |
| Mystified | ahh.. | 04:54 |
| Mystified | apt-cache -t daedalus-backports show firmware-atheros Package: firmware-atheros Version: 20240709-2~bpo12+1 Installed-Size: 74136 | 04:54 |
| Mystified | i'll reboot | 04:55 |
| gnarface | Mystified: figuring it out now? that one package may fix it, but usually when they have firwmare in backports it only works against the kernel that's also in backports, just fyi | 04:55 |
| Mystified | brb ..thanks & sorry | 04:55 |
| fluffywolf | righto... so, don't run different commands than the ones people tell you to run, then report that as the results of the command they asked about. yeah. | 04:55 |
| Mystified | :( | 04:55 |
| fluffywolf | you could install the bpo kernel before the reboot... I don't remeber if it's easy or if it needs a bunch of stuff these days. | 04:57 |
| _myst | ath10k_pci 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:01:00.0.bin (-2) | 04:58 |
| fluffywolf | do you need to manually rebuilt the initrd for that firmware? don't remember. | 05:00 |
| fluffywolf | googling says those files are not needed, and you should see if your wifi works now | 05:02 |
| _myst | I goto go to the shops for my elderly parents(+90 Yrs) be back in 30. thanks so much for the help. | 05:04 |
| fluffywolf | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/405009/what-is-the-purpose-of-ath10k-pre-cal-pci-and-ath10k-cal-pci | 05:04 |
| fluffywolf | maybe firmware is like one of the impossible minigames of your namesake? | 05:06 |
| gnarface | _myst: incidentally, i believe the i915 firmware you're missing is in the package "firmware-misc-nonfree" | 05:11 |
| gnarface | (which also has a backports version) | 05:11 |
| gnarface | i don't know for sure these backports packages are gonna fix anything, by the way... it's kinda a shot in the dark, but for hardware newer than the stable kernel it's usually a good bet | 05:12 |
| * fluffywolf was never a gamer... poked at myst when it came out, continued not being a gamer. | 05:13 | |
| gnarface | oh, hmm... that i915 firmware might actually be in the "firmware-intel-graphics" package only in backports, testing and unstable | 05:30 |
| gnarface | seems like before that it was just in regular xserver-xorg-video-intel, but it seems like it might also be a case of which specific i915 hardware generation you have | 05:30 |
| _myst | apt install -t daedalus-backports firmware-misc-nonfree.. IT IS also installing firmware-atheros (20240709-2~bpo12+1) & firmware-intel-graphics (20240709-2~bpo12+1) back in a while need to make latte for my mother ! | 05:55 |
| fluffywolf | bbl, wolfy bedtime | 06:09 |
| _myst | back.. 410pm | 06:09 |
| _myst | i'll reboot | 06:10 |
| Mystified | back | 06:11 |
| Mystified | gpu fixed but not ath10k or the nvme drive | 06:12 |
| gnarface | Mystified: what does "uname -a" say now? | 06:13 |
| gnarface | wondering if you got the kernel too or just the firmware packages | 06:13 |
| gnarface | also, did you reboot after installing those firmware? | 06:14 |
| Mystified | 6.1.0-30-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.124-1 (2025-01-12 | 06:14 |
| Mystified | thanks | 06:14 |
| Mystified | rebooted | 06:14 |
| gnarface | Mystified: that's still the stable kernel, you might need the backports kernel too for those backports firmwares to work right | 06:15 |
| Mystified | what to search for ? | 06:15 |
| gnarface | try ^linux\-image\-6\.10\.*bpo | 06:16 |
| gnarface | no i mean ^linux\-image\-6\.10.*bpo | 06:16 |
| gnarface | er, wait, here, just install this one: linux-image-6.10.11+bpo-amd64 | 06:18 |
| gnarface | i'm pretty sure it's that one | 06:18 |
| gnarface | (https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=%5Elinux%5C-image%5C-6%5C.10.*bpo.*amd64&x=submit) | 06:19 |
| Mystified | is this date it was created 2019.06.03-1? | 06:24 |
| Mystified | can't be it's 6.10 not 6.1 | 06:26 |
| Mystified | installing linux-image-6.10.11+bpo-amd64 | 06:33 |
| myst | upgraded & update-grub,now rebooted, still the same ath10k_pci 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:01:00.0.bin (-2) | 06:37 |
| Mystified | uname -a shows 6.1.0-30-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.124-1 (2025-01-12) x86_64, yet I've successfully installed daedalus-backports linux-image-6.10.11+bpo-amd64 | 06:44 |
| Mystified | I can't located but is installed | 06:45 |
| thegoat | Mystified, wouldn't it be in /boot and available in GRUB? | 06:55 |
| myst | ok. all good kernel in use. 6.10.11+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.10.11-1~bpo12+1 (2024-10-03). | 07:06 |
| myst | nvme issue gone. likewise i915. | 07:06 |
| onefang | No longer Mystified, now just a myst. | 07:07 |
| myst | still have ath10k issue, no other with fail in dmesg | 07:07 |
| myst | you like !!! | 07:07 |
| gnarface | myst: check the ath10k device to see if it works, the firmware errors might not be for your particular device, the drivers just load all the firmware for that driver at once | 07:18 |
| gnarface | drat, i was too slow | 07:19 |
| gnarface | because i think there was also maybe something about MAC randomization being on by default now, might sabotage some wifi setups... | 07:20 |
| djent | i set manual ip to eth0 like (ip addr add 13.13.13.1/24 dev eth0). Then it dissappears again after like 2 seconds. | 09:37 |
| gnarface | djent: that's strange... but it's not wireless? | 09:58 |
| gnarface | you sure you're not running a dhcp client accidentally? | 09:58 |
| gnarface | if not, just a guess but could be a driver issue, maybe something with power management, but not one i've heard of specifically... | 09:59 |
| rrq | or there might be an ifupdown versus netw0rok-manager competition | 09:59 |
| djent | gnarface, oh yeah i forgot that networkmanager is running | 09:59 |
| Alverstone | after the recent update `apt show` started using pager by default (/bin/less on my machine). For god's sake how do I stop it? | 16:21 |
| Alverstone | echo 'Binary::apt::Pager "0";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99nofancy | 16:37 |
| Xis | hi all | 18:01 |
| Alverstone | Xis hi | 18:54 |
| plasma41 | amarsh04: As for a script for downloading binary packages from snapshot.debian.org, check out the debsnap script in the devscripts package. Based on your description, you'll probably want to run it with the '--binary' and '--architecture' options. | 20:47 |
| amarsh04 | Thanks plasma41 | 21:11 |
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