| AlexLikeRock | hi | 01:51 |
|---|---|---|
| debdog | oy! | 01:52 |
| AlexLikeRock | ih debdog | 01:52 |
| AlexLikeRock | how to down the brigthnes by terminal ? | 01:53 |
| debdog | define "terminal" in that context | 01:54 |
| freem | a terminal emulator, that you have on a graphical desktop, or the linux PTY, that you could get with i.e. CTRL+ALT+F1 ? (might still, unsure) | 01:55 |
| drizzt | AlexLikeRock: using some file in /sys | 01:56 |
| fsmithred | ctrl-alt-F1 still works unless you ran startx on tty1 | 01:56 |
| freem | in most case anyway, a solution is to adjust the brightness of the screen directly, via ACPI or the /sys stuff | 01:56 |
| drizzt | I have this on my laptop : | 01:57 |
| drizzt | alias brighter='echo 7 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness' | 01:57 |
| drizzt | alias darker='echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness' | 01:57 |
| AlexLikeRock | hahaha | 01:57 |
| AlexLikeRock | thanks drizzt | 01:58 |
| AlexLikeRock | at my laptop : /sys/class/backlight/nv_backlight | 01:59 |
| drizzt | if you have something under /sys/class/backlight/ you may find some brightness file in one of the sub-directories | 01:59 |
| fsmithred | I use xrandr or redshift | 01:59 |
| drizzt | on my desktop I don't even have /sys/class/backlight/ | 02:00 |
| drizzt | AlexLikeRock: then /sys/class/backlight/nv_backlight/brightness ? | 02:00 |
| AlexLikeRock | yes | 02:00 |
| AlexLikeRock | actual_brightness brightness max_brightness scale type | 02:01 |
| AlexLikeRock | bl_power device power subsystem uevent | 02:01 |
| AlexLikeRock | reading ... | 02:01 |
| drizzt | fsmithred: did not thought about xrandr, but this works fine :) | 02:03 |
| drizzt | xrandr --output DP-1 --brightness 1 (for me) restores "normal" brightness | 02:04 |
| drizzt | 0 turns black | 02:04 |
| drizzt | between 0 and 1 lowers the brigntness | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I've got that scripted with yad (like zenity) so I can do it the clicky way | 02:05 |
| drizzt | but I can also go above 1, wich saturates the colors but works :) | 02:05 |
| freem | IIRC xrandr does a software change, so won't affect energy uses. Also, might not work with wayland systems? | 02:08 |
| fsmithred | wash your mouth out with soap | 02:09 |
| freem | ? | 02:09 |
| debdog | lol | 02:09 |
| fsmithred | oh, maybe that doesn't translate well. That's a punishment for saying bad words. | 02:09 |
| freem | sure, but I'm more wondering about which one is the bad one. | 02:09 |
| freem | xrandr? | 02:10 |
| freem | software? | 02:10 |
| fsmithred | lol | 02:10 |
| freem | systems? | 02:10 |
| debdog | w... | 02:10 |
| fsmithred | you're wayoff | 02:10 |
| freem | that one got the last letter correct, for me, but... | 02:10 |
| freem | what I mean is that the /sys one is simply the best, when available. Sadly I only seen it work on laptops. | 02:11 |
| debdog | x and w do not compute | 02:11 |
| freem | pretty sure a LLM bot can do that | 02:11 |
| * freem goes back at reading C code | 02:12 | |
| freem | (checking if libgd could be used to actually need neither of wayland nor Xorg to do some trivial stuff in framebuffer+libinput, because neither x nor w compute alone, anyway) | 02:13 |
| AlexLikeRock | XDDD "xrandr --output DP-1 --brightness 2" | 02:18 |
| fsmithred | if you want it less bright, try 0.8 | 02:25 |
| drizzt | anyone has news about debian-arm ? | 02:50 |
| drizzt | #devuan-arm has 30 users ... #debian-arm only 4 ... | 02:50 |
| drizzt | I've been thinking about build a build farm to re-build and maintain packages for ARM some time ago ... looks like it's going to become mandatory if debian drops support of ARM for lack of users | 02:52 |
| rwp | I have one Devuan ARM Banana Pi still running Chimaera running hostapd and two USB WiFi adaptors providing 5GHz and 2.4GHz WiFi to my house. | 02:54 |
| drizzt | rwp: yep, but if no one runs tests on development branches (understand ceres/sid) then the stable branch has to be cut soon after | 02:56 |
| drizzt | rwp: wasn't it what we spoke about ... yesterday ? (community involvment, packaging vs appimage, and so on ...) | 03:00 |
| rwp | Yesterday I would say we debated the merits of appimage versus native packages. Not quite the same thing. | 03:02 |
| drizzt | it's exactly the same problem : community involvment | 03:02 |
| drizzt | once there's no-one left to run (and as such, test) the base system, then the system dies | 03:03 |
| AlexLikeRock | done my script , to edit brigtness , | 03:08 |
| AlexLikeRock | ok, next question | 03:09 |
| AlexLikeRock | my other devuan partition , X11 not detect INPUT (mouse and keyboard ) | 03:09 |
| AlexLikeRock | suggestions ? | 03:09 |
| drizzt | xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed ? | 03:17 |
| drizzt | /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? | 03:18 |
| AlexLikeRock | runing ... | 03:18 |
| drizzt | Section "ServerLayout" | 03:18 |
| drizzt | Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" | 03:18 |
| drizzt | EndSection | 03:18 |
| drizzt | and remove all "InputDevice" sections | 03:19 |
| AlexLikeRock | ok | 03:19 |
| drizzt | remove /comment | 03:19 |
| drizzt | in fact, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf has almost only what I pasted here | 03:20 |
| drizzt | only a "Identifier "Default Layout"" in the ServerLayout Section | 03:20 |
| drizzt | and Option "StandbyTime" "0" | 03:20 |
| drizzt | (and SuspendTime, OffTime, BlankTime options also set to 0) | 03:21 |
| drizzt | but no more | 03:21 |
| AlexLikeRock | https://paste.debian.net/1331353/ | 03:21 |
| drizzt | and this could be done using xrandr I think | 03:21 |
| AlexLikeRock | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 03:22 |
| AlexLikeRock | cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: not found the file | 03:22 |
| AlexLikeRock | this old partition, i install by REFRACTA | 03:22 |
| fsmithred | there's also xserver-xorg-input-libinput | 03:24 |
| fsmithred | most of the time you don't need xorg.conf | 03:24 |
| drizzt | AlexLikeRock: apt-get update | 03:24 |
| AlexLikeRock | drizzt, , im workin on update | 03:24 |
| drizzt | to fix the missing package error | 03:25 |
| AlexLikeRock | how to change apt to english ? | 03:33 |
| AlexLikeRock | FAIL update v | 03:35 |
| AlexLikeRock | https://paste.debian.net/1331354/ | 03:35 |
| fsmithred | AlexLikeRock, I think do: LC_ALL=C apt install whatever | 03:39 |
| AlexLikeRock | not LOCALES | 03:44 |
| AlexLikeRock | https://paste.debian.net/1331355/ | 03:44 |
| AlexLikeRock | drizzt, | 03:47 |
| AlexLikeRock | fsmithred, | 03:47 |
| drizzt | AlexLikeRock: LANG=C apt update | 03:48 |
| drizzt | you can also eport LANG=C | 03:48 |
| drizzt | AlexLikeRock: su - | 03:49 |
| drizzt | instead of su | 03:49 |
| drizzt | (I think it should be added on top of welcome message, with the associated explanation) | 03:49 |
| AlexLikeRock | drizzt, take a look https://paste.debian.net/1331355/ | 03:49 |
| drizzt | AlexLikeRock: you used "su" to become root insn't it ? | 03:50 |
| AlexLikeRock | im root by : su - | 03:50 |
| drizzt | AlexLikeRock: yep, that's what I'm talking about | 03:50 |
| AlexLikeRock | i tink "locales" are uninstaling | 03:50 |
| drizzt | echo $PATH ? | 03:51 |
| drizzt | anyway, sorry but I need to go get some sleep | 03:52 |
| drizzt | got to drive "tomorrow" morning | 03:53 |
| drizzt | meaning in about 6 hours | 03:53 |
| AlexLikeRock | echo $PATH | 03:55 |
| AlexLikeRock | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin | 03:55 |
| AlexLikeRock | dpkg -i locales_2.36-9+deb12u8_all.deb | 03:56 |
| AlexLikeRock | dpkg: atención: `ldconfig' no se ha encontrado en el PATH o no es ejecutable | 03:56 |
| AlexLikeRock | dpkg: error: no se ha encontrado 1 programa esperado en el PATH o no es ejecutable | 03:56 |
| AlexLikeRock | NOTA: El PATH de root debería incluir habitualmente /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin y /sbin. | 03:56 |
| AlexLikeRock | sorry | 03:57 |
| AlexLikeRock | dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable | 03:57 |
| AlexLikeRock | dpkg: error: 1 expected program not found in PATH or not executable | 03:57 |
| AlexLikeRock | Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin | 03:57 |
| drizzt | ls -l /usr/sbin/ldconfig | 03:58 |
| drizzt | and | 03:58 |
| drizzt | export LANG=C | 03:59 |
| drizzt | so all your messages on this shell will be in english | 03:59 |
| AlexLikeRock | LC_ALL=C ls -l /usr/sbin/ldconfig | 04:00 |
| AlexLikeRock | ls: cannot access '/usr/sbin/ldconfig': No such file or directory | 04:00 |
| drizzt | bad one | 04:00 |
| drizzt | ls -l /sbin/ldconfig maybe ? | 04:01 |
| drizzt | and do you have usrmerge installed ? | 04:01 |
| AlexLikeRock | ls -l /sbin/ldconfig | 04:01 |
| AlexLikeRock | ls: no se puede acceder a '/sbin/ldconfig': No existe el fichero o el directorio | 04:01 |
| drizzt | or only partially installed | 04:01 |
| AlexLikeRock | not exist | 04:01 |
| drizzt | your system seems to be in a really bad state | 04:02 |
| drizzt | sorry, but I really need to go :( | 04:02 |
| AlexLikeRock | sorry i lost , energy | 04:05 |
| AlexLikeRock | hold on ... | 04:05 |
| AlexLikeRock | let me mount againt | 04:05 |
| AlexLikeRock | done | 04:09 |
| AlexLikeRock | drizzt, , im ready | 04:10 |
| onefang | Oh goodie, firefox-ESR decided to jump 13 versions. Hope I'm not unlucky with this update. | 04:32 |
| AlexLikeRock | backup your passwords | 04:36 |
| AlexLikeRock | i lost so many times | 04:36 |
| rwp | onefang, That's the normal upgrade for ESR. They hold stable through all of those upgrades and then leapfrog. Repeat. | 04:37 |
| AlexLikeRock | bye | 04:37 |
| onefang | The comment was more about the 13 version jump. Unlucky for some, plus the local shops are full of Halloween stuff right now. | 04:50 |
| onefang | Tells me that "English is incompatible with Firefox 128.3.0." LOL | 04:53 |
| rwp | Lucky number 13! | 04:54 |
| rwp | It's bad luck to be superstitious. | 04:54 |
| onefang | Very true. | 04:55 |
| onefang | After updating all my extensions, Firefox knows English again. | 04:56 |
| rwp | On my long lived Unstable system way back I somehow made a customization that I have lost in the intervening storms of time. I can't remember how I did it then. | 04:58 |
| rwp | Firefox uses some gtk keybinding configuration somewhere on the system. The default being the MS-CUA keybindings. | 04:58 |
| rwp | I much prefer Emacs. Wherever that file lives I remember I removed the CUA file and replaced it with the Emacs file. And Firefox from that time until now has Emacs keybindings. | 04:59 |
| rwp | I now want to replicate whatever it was that I did on a new system. But I can't figure it out. Anyone know where that CUA keybinding file lives? | 04:59 |
| onefang | I'm not blaming Firefox for the local weather radar page being broken. The next nearest radar works fine. Thought that sudden appearance and disappearance of some really nasty looking clouds for just a few seconds, centred around where the currently broken radar is, seemed suspiciously like "someone just dumped a big bucket of water on the radar". | 04:59 |
| rwp | Maybe the weather radar dome was taken out by some bad weather? | 05:00 |
| onefang | I would have noticed that from here. | 05:01 |
| fluffywolf | grep -iR "some phrase you remember being in that file" .mozilla | 05:01 |
| gnarface | rwp: put this line in your ~/.gtkrc-2.0.mine and your ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini: gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs" | 05:03 |
| gnarface | (this will also apply the change to programs running in Wine) | 05:04 |
| gnarface | actually in fact also all gtk2 and gtk3 programs | 05:05 |
| gnarface | iirc sometimes the programs' native bindings override certain things though | 05:05 |
| gnarface | hmm... i guess i was sure it used to also apply to Wine but it doesn't look like it is anymore | 05:06 |
| rwp | The ~/.gtkrc-2.0 is insufficient. But I will try ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini right now. | 05:06 |
| onefang | Did Wine whine about Emacs? Well, it IS an opposing operating system. | 05:07 |
| rwp | Humorously the date on that latter file on my desktop is Aug 20 2016. Tragically it already has gtk-key-theme-name = Emacs in it. | 05:07 |
| gnarface | ah, no, i'm wrong; it still applies to Wine there's just more native overrides than i remember... ctrl+b and ctrl+f still work right though so it must be paying attention | 05:08 |
| rwp | Oh wait, that's on my old machine where it is working so maybe, maybe, let me try it on the correct machine this time. | 05:08 |
| fluffywolf | lol | 05:08 |
| rwp | gnarface, THAT WAS IT! Yay! (!!happy dance!!) | 05:09 |
| * onefang thinks rwp has had too much wine. | 05:09 | |
| * rwp is actually consuming a Boston lager right at this moment, so maybe | 05:10 | |
| gnarface | cool | 05:10 |
| rwp | This can also be set globally (I am the only user) in /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini too. | 05:21 |
| rwp | Something I do very often in Firefox is Control-L to jump to the Location Bar and then edit the URL. That's easy with emacs keybindings which are all on the keyboard home row. | 05:24 |
| rwp | With the defaults it requires moving the hands from the home row over to the arrow keys first to tap right-arrow to de-highlight the entire thing and put the edit cursor on the right side. Any other key destroys everything and then must reload the page to get it back and then start again. | 05:24 |
| rwp | With emacs bindings it is C-l to get to the location bar then C-e to get to the end of it then type or backspace or whatever to modify it without ever leaving the keyboard home row. | 05:25 |
| gnarface | ctrl-a, ctrl-b, ctrl-d, ctrl-f, alt-b, alt-f all work too | 05:38 |
| gnarface | even ctrl-k, but not ctrl-y | 05:38 |
| rwp | Another happy customer! :-) | 05:39 |
| rwp | The real one that catches us all is Control-N in a textarea. We want to move down, not open 37 new browser frames! | 05:40 |
| onefang | No other glitches spotted, just that being forgetful about English for a minute thing. | 05:57 |
| fluffywolf | is this the version of firefox that finally fixes the memory leaks and ui nonresponsiveness while waiting on network connections? | 06:05 |
| onefang | This is Firefox-ESR. My 256 GB of memory means I get to ignore memory leaks. | 06:06 |
| rwp | I don't know if it is Firefox but gosh I hope so. Since the past few months it has been nothing but chunk, chunk, kill, restart, okay, okay, chunk, chunk, kill, restart for me. | 06:06 |
| rwp | But I have been suspecting my graphics driver. Since I changed two things at once. | 06:07 |
| fluffywolf | that was a joke. that version is probably never going to exist. :P | 06:07 |
| * rwp was suckered into that one | 06:08 | |
| onefang | lol | 06:08 |
| rwp | That's the problem with hope. Hope will get you every time. | 06:08 |
| rwp | I suspect the graphics driver is involved because when things chunk then my entire X is also rather stuck. I can change window focus and type but I can't change rooms until things get unstuck. | 06:09 |
| golinux | FWIW . . . FF getting stuck happens to me also. Sometimes I kill it. Sometimes I let it sit and it eventually seems to "reset" something and starts working normally again. | 17:31 |
| Alverstone | Hello hackers | 18:33 |
| golinux | Hi Alverstone . . . just ask your question if you have one. | 18:35 |
| Alverstone | Unfortunately Larry Finger passed away and now my Wi-Fi driver is not maintained. Linux developers do an outstanding job of breaking drivers, so I am resolved to stay with 6.5 for a while. It is in daedalus' backports, but according to Debian, packages in backports "do not get as much attention". So my question is essentially this, do is there a magic button that makes me a working kernel from source? So I can keep it up to date myself? Or is it | 18:36 |
| Alverstone | redundant and using the backport is alright? I do not have experience doing things with kernels. | 18:36 |
| Alverstone | >do is there | 18:37 |
| Alverstone | just 'is there' | 18:37 |
| Alverstone | Ah yes I plan on using excalibur for the sake of being in the testing branch | 18:39 |
| Alverstone | Sadly Debian folks only package 6.10 for testing. Funny thing is that the driver compiles but doesn't work. Makes me angry. 6.5 is alright | 18:40 |
| fsmithred | what driver are we talking about? | 18:41 |
| fsmithred | what's your wifi hardware? | 18:41 |
| fsmithred | there are kernel compile instructions at wiki.debian.org | 18:43 |
| Alverstone | https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu v5.2.2.4 branch is the one that works, and works well | 18:43 |
| Alverstone | Yeeeeah there are instructions. A whole frickin' ton of instructions. My life would be a good deal more easy if there was a magic script that just did everything for me ;) | 18:44 |
| Alverstone | Another problem is that debian rules are a makefile. If it was a shell script, OK, but I don't know my way around makefiles | 18:45 |
| gnarface | apt get linux-source && dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc ./linux-source | 18:46 |
| gnarface | (something like that, anyway) | 18:46 |
| Alverstone | Anyway, if there isn't a solution for clueless people, I'll figure it out when I have more time | 18:46 |
| fsmithred | is the problem that your hardware is too new? installing firmware-realtek is not enough? | 18:46 |
| Alverstone | 8188eu isn't new, the problem is that every new kernel update from 6.n to 6.(n+1) breaks the driver | 18:47 |
| Alverstone | 6.5 kernel works. 6.10 doesn't | 18:47 |
| Alverstone | That's just it | 18:47 |
| gnarface | for what it's worth, the backports kernel might be fine for most purposes, it's worth a try | 18:47 |
| Alverstone | I want to stay with the kernel that works. I'm stuck with 8188eu for a while yet | 18:47 |
| gnarface | it's true backports stuff doesn't get much attention, but the biggest risk over stable versions that are known-broken for you already anyway is just using too many backports packages and finding unexpected conflicts between them | 18:49 |
| Alverstone | gnarface, `apt get linux-source` sound good in theory, but that downloads the distro's source, then I have to somehow put upstream sources in there, apply patches and hope it works. A lot of job to do and I don't know yet how | 18:49 |
| gnarface | Alverstone: uh, i think it's "cd linux-source && uupdate -v newversion ../linux-source-newversion.tar.gz" | 18:51 |
| gnarface | again; or something like that | 18:51 |
| gnarface | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html | 18:51 |
| gnarface | this is the official docs | 18:51 |
| gnarface | for the upstream packaging | 18:51 |
| fsmithred | check liquorix kernel | 18:52 |
| peterrooney | Alverstone: if you get kernel from source, not distribution, `make help' has a lot of info - but maybe, "make deb-pkg" - which makes a kernel and puts in in a .deb ready for install - is what you're looking for. | 18:55 |
| Alverstone | peterrooney, but Debian applies a ton of its own things on top of upstream, I though that should be preserved if possible | 18:56 |
| fsmithred | I see 6.4 and 6.5 for trixie (excalibur) https://liquorix.net/debian/pool/main/l/linux-liquorix/ | 18:56 |
| Alverstone | It's a custom kernel though | 18:57 |
| fsmithred | what's the problem? | 18:57 |
| peterrooney | Alverstone: the `make deb-pkg' is part of the kernel source, *direct from kernel.org* - that part does not originate with debian | 19:00 |
| Alverstone | fsmithred, the problem is me. Don't wanna third party custom things tunes to solved problem I never thought existed | 19:02 |
| Alverstone | tuned* | 19:02 |
| Alverstone | problems* | 19:02 |
| Alverstone | peterrooney, yes I understood. I am thinking about preserving Debian patches to the kernel if possible though | 19:03 |
| Alverstone | but as far as I can see I'll have to figure out packaging and kerneling myself :'(. Why is magic never exactly where you need it? :D | 19:04 |
| Alverstone | the thing is apt/dpkg have huge tooling, hard not to break legs | 19:06 |
| gnarface | as far as i know, that page i linked you tells you how to handle patches too | 19:07 |
| gnarface | though fetching the kernel source package will apply them to it automatically and i think that uupdate might also re-apply them automatically | 19:08 |
| Alverstone | On the other hand, Debian patches do a lot of job, including security fixes and removal of blobs, which are then installed from firmware-nonfree anyway. Maybe building upstream kernel and not giving a damn would be a more sensible solution | 19:09 |
| Alverstone | Alright thinking is not my domain. I'll have to give it a few days (or even weeks) to settle in my head | 19:17 |
| Alverstone | Thank you nonetheless | 19:17 |
| gnarface | just try the backports kernel, it'll probably be fine | 19:17 |
| gnarface | just make sure you only install that | 19:17 |
| gnarface | not the kitchen sink | 19:17 |
| Alverstone | gnarface, do you think it'll receive security fixes in time? I'm not exactly bent on security, but I prefer when it's not too late | 19:18 |
| xrogaan | the tree hasn't changed in a year. Code seems quite stable. | 19:25 |
| xrogaan | Wouldn't worry too much if I were you. | 19:25 |
| Alverstone | :'( I just looked it up again and it's i386 | 19:27 |
| gnarface | there should be both i386 and amd64 kernels... | 19:28 |
| gnarface | if you used the i386 installer though it'd only show you the i386 ones by default | 19:29 |
| xrogaan | BTW, there are no security fix for the kernel. All "security" stuff isn't even tagged as such. They're considered as bug, and reported fixed as such. If your wireless driver has a bug and is being used, it'll be solved by the kernel people. | 19:31 |
| Alverstone | gnarface, bookworm backports only have i386 6.5 kernel | 19:31 |
| xrogaan | that's not true. | 19:31 |
| Alverstone | xrogaan, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-6.5&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all | 19:32 |
| xrogaan | Running: Debian 6.10.6-1~bpo12+1 (2024-08-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux | 19:32 |
| Alverstone | 6.10 breaks my Wi-Fi driver though | 19:33 |
| Alverstone | Nobody cares about 6.5 because testing already went ahead to 6.10 | 19:33 |
| Alverstone | I'm basically choosing between somehow upgrading an existing debian kernel source to 6.5, which I don't know how to do, and installing from kernel.org | 19:34 |
| gnarface | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=%5Elinux%5C-image%5C-6%5C..*bpo.*amd64%24&x=submit | 19:34 |
| gnarface | 6.9 is still there, did you try that? | 19:34 |
| xrogaan | there is no 6.5 in bpo. only 6.9 and 6.10 | 19:34 |
| Alverstone | No, didn't try 6.9 to be honest | 19:34 |
| gnarface | for that matter, did you try the debian 6.10 or only the upstream one? sometimes those debian packages fix things... | 19:35 |
| gnarface | *patches | 19:35 |
| xrogaan | Also, if your wireless is broken, then you ought to report it. Or try to get a newer hardware, whichever path is easier. | 19:36 |
| Alverstone | :) Tried it on Void Linux, did not try Devuan's or Debian's version. | 19:36 |
| Alverstone | xrogaan, maintainer is dead, unless somebody took up the job, I'm stuck. Nobody cares about wireless traditionally. I will get better hardware later, but now I'm sort of stuck | 19:37 |
| gnarface | well, let's try to build it, maybe it won't be that hard | 19:41 |
| gnarface | "apt-get build-essential" | 19:42 |
| gnarface | "apt-get build-dep linux-source" | 19:42 |
| gnarface | apt-get linux-source | 19:42 |
| gnarface | etc | 19:42 |
| Alverstone | uupdate/ | 19:42 |
| Alverstone | uupdate? | 19:42 |
| gnarface | yea then get the kernel tarball you want to try to update it to and try running uupdate on it | 19:42 |
| gnarface | see what happens | 19:42 |
| gnarface | most the errors you get at first will probably just be missing dependencies, and once they're identified you can just install them and try again | 19:43 |
| gnarface | repeat till it works | 19:43 |
| gnarface | all you've got to lose is the bandwidth and the time | 19:43 |
| gnarface | *apt-get install linux-source | 19:45 |
| gnarface | ^ this is a bit confusing, because normally you'd "apt-get source [package]" to get a package's source package, but for some weird reason the kernel source is in a binary package, i don't know why really | 19:45 |
| gnarface | it won't actually install anything, it will still just extract it to the current directory | 19:46 |
| Alverstone | v | 19:46 |
| Alverstone | /usr/src/linux-source-4.3.tar.xz | 19:46 |
| gnarface | make sure you've got enough free space for the build objects and the dependencies | 19:46 |
| Alverstone | tar xf | 19:46 |
| Alverstone | how much | 19:46 |
| gnarface | not sure exactly, just a few gigabytes normally | 19:47 |
| Alverstone | 116 kb/s | 19:47 |
| * Alverstone hoots | 19:47 | |
| Alverstone | I've got 1TB of space occupied only with products of my brain activity | 19:47 |
| gnarface | maybe only about 450MB for the kernel and modules once built | 19:48 |
| gnarface | assuming a fairly default config where you don't pare the stock settings way don that is | 19:48 |
| gnarface | way down* | 19:48 |
| Alverstone | I don't wanna config please no | 19:49 |
| Alverstone | I want it to just work | 19:49 |
| gnarface | it will come with a stock config, don't worry | 19:49 |
| gnarface | most the time you can just load the running one too | 19:50 |
| Alverstone | I guess I should download older source | 19:52 |
| Alverstone | i.e. 6.1 | 19:52 |
| gnarface | yea, if you're on daedalus right now then the package named linux-source should be the 6.1 debian sources, including all patches and config | 19:52 |
| gnarface | we're gonna see if uupdate can merge the 6.5 tarball from kernel.org into it successfully, right? | 19:53 |
| gnarface | i don't know if it'll work but i'm excited to find out! :) | 19:53 |
| Alverstone | gnarface, gonna be funny if it ends my machine by a small bug haha anyway with this internet I'll sooner die waiting | 20:51 |
| gnarface | maybe if you try one of the other mirrors it might go faster? | 20:52 |
| Alverstone | installing already | 21:06 |
| Alverstone | build-dep | 21:06 |
| Alverstone | You know, I'm still paranoid over 5.19 killing monitors under intel gpus | 21:07 |
| Alverstone | what | 21:08 |
| Alverstone | what did I do | 21:08 |
| Alverstone | I slapped mouse accidentally | 21:08 |
| Alverstone | !*@* | 21:09 |
| Xenguy | I learned about 'ccrypt' today. Looks like it's a bit easier to use than GPG for casual use, and easier to use also | 22:51 |
| Xenguy | Wrong window, sorry | 22:51 |
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