libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2024-09-21

ttsoaresGreetings. Just started the migration from Mint to Devuan to get rid of systemd...01:25
ttsoaresIt is possible to make full use of an NVidia card with Devuan ?01:25
gnarfacettsoares: yes, it's got all the same nvidia support as Debian does, same exact packages in fact, those ones and the kernel aren't among the few forked packages01:29
gnarface(you'll want to make sure you also install acpid and lm-sensors though)01:30
ttsoaresfirmware-nvidia-gsp/stable 535.183.01-1~deb12u1 amd6401:30
ttsoaresfirmware-nvidia-tesla-gsp/stable,stable-updates 525.147.05-7~deb12u1 amd6401:30
ttsoareslibnvidia-egl-wayland-dev/stable 1:1.1.10-1 amd6401:30
ttsoareslibnvidia-egl-wayland1/stable 1:1.1.10-1 amd6401:30
ttsoaresmate-sensors-applet-nvidia/stable 1.26.0-1 amd6401:30
ttsoaresmir-graphics-drivers-nvidia/stable 2.12.1-1 amd6401:30
ttsoaresnvidia-vaapi-driver/stable 0.0.8-1 amd6401:30
gnarfacewoah woah, be careful, there's anti-flooding measures here. if you need to send a long paste use paste.debian.net or termbin.com01:31
gnarfacecan someone unflag our friend ttsoares here? i'm sure that was just a mistake01:32
gnarfacesorry ttsoares, i don't have ops01:32
gnarfacethanks litharge01:32
gnarfacettsoares: still there? you ok?01:32
ttsoaressorry :-(01:33
gnarfaceit's fine01:33
ttsoaresI posted the list of packs01:33
ttsoaresapt list | grep vidia01:33
gnarfacewhat was the actual question about them going to be? i probably don't need to see the whole list to answer it...01:33
drizztpaste the command to get them, not the result01:33
ttsoaresI wonder if there is a master package that allow a single apt and all NVIdia stuff is in place01:34
drizztor use an external paste tool and provide the link to the paste here01:34
ttsoaresI like this one: https://lesma.eu/:help01:35
gnarfacettsoares: sorry, as far as i know, nvidia still hasn't figured out how meta-packages work01:36
drizztttsoares: you can make your own :)01:36
ttsoaresWith Mint all the process goes under the rood01:36
drizzt(though this doesn't solve the initial problem)01:36
ttsoaresI'm too old to build restart build packages01:37
gnarfacettsoares: one note, just a small gotcha: as of current stable they've moved all the non-free nvidia driver stuff from "non-free" to "non-free-firmware" (Debian made this change upstream of us, not sure if Mint followed suit or not)01:37
ttsoaresThat I alread figured01:38
gnarfacehang on, i've still got a current nvidia setup here on hand i can get you a package list from01:38
gnarfacestand by...01:39
gnarfacehere you go: https://paste.debian.net/1329938/01:39
gnarfaceignore the :i386 ones if you're not using Wine or Steam, and ignore anything that doesn't show up in current stable, as this is a list from a system that's been continuously upgraded01:40
gnarfacepossibly present in current stable (it comes and goes, i haven't checked recently) but not in that list is nvidia-persistenced, which i personally recommend you avoid either way01:41
blizzowI'm having a nightmare of a time with my devuan install. I use a cinnamon desktop. It's about a 50% success rate when I open a file manager.  I have a gut feeling it has something to do with DBUS and DNS resolution but I can't figure it out for the life of me.19:50
blizzowI know it's a vague description of the problem but I'm hoping someone might have seen something similar or understand what I'm describing.19:51
blizzowSometimes when I try and open nemo or nautilus, it takes upwards of a minute for the file manager window to display.19:51
Xenguyblizzow, Are you installing Daedalus?19:53
blizzowXenguy, yes.19:54
blizzowI've been running it for over a year I bet.19:54
XenguyFirst you mentioned a "devuan install", so I thought you were trying a new installation, but now you say you've had this installed for some time, is that right?19:56
XenguyIf you have been using this install for a year or so, and now you are experiencing file manager problems, then the obvious question is 'what changed?'19:57
dynastarMaybe a rogue apt-update? This has been going on a long time.19:59
XenguyI need to leave soon, so I'll just mention that if you are trying to install a new instance, it would be interesting to see how things go if you install MATE instead of Cinnamon (since I think both have a 'GNOME2' flavor)19:59
XenguyOh, you are dynastar now20:00
dynastarYeah, whoops. sorry, I reconnected and hexchat went for a backup name.20:01
XenguyNo worries.  If it were me I'd wonder if there is something messed up with my Cinnamon DE, and I might swap it out for MATE to see if things improve, or the same problems persist...20:01
XenguyBut I think your problem description is a bit hard to diagnose, unless someone has see the same behavior before as you20:02
XenguyI don't use Cinnamon myself20:02
XenguyFeel free to idle awhile, there are others who can help much better than myself.  Good luck.20:03
fsmithreddynastar, start the file manager in a terminal and see if you get any useful messages20:46
fsmithredmaybe even try it with strace20:46

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