libera/#maemo-leste/ Thursday, 2025-04-17

Wizzuplooks like you're right, that's not it00:03
Wizzupdo we lack some gettext related dep?00:03
sicelototally weird00:03
Wizzuphttps://bugs.gentoo.org/69552000:05
Wizzupsays newer polkit is required00:05
Wizzup(or maybe we don't have polkit as bdep)00:05
Wizzupcan you run dpkg -l | grep polkit00:06
Wizzupsee what you have installed00:06
Wizzup$ dpkg -S /usr/share/polkit-1/policyconfig-1.dtd00:07
Wizzuppolkitd: /usr/share/polkit-1/policyconfig-1.dtd00:07
Wizzupso maybe we need build dep on polkitd?00:07
Wizzupwant me to try?00:07
siceloyes, please00:07
Wizzuprunning00:09
sicelothanks, seems successful now :-)00:12
sicelodebian's debian/control doesn't have the direct polkitd dep ... only has libpolkit-gobject-1-dev. maybe polkitd is already hard-depended by some other core package00:14
Wizzupworks now00:15
sicelostill got a D4 where you had to displace upower binary?00:18
siceloeasy way to see if it's worth testing this upower on it is `cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity` ... if it's 0% or non-existent, then you can put the new features to the test00:19
Wizzupno, but I have a friend who has issues with this on his d4 :)00:24
Wizzupdo we still need to set the config keys to disable ths hutdown00:24
Wizzupthe shutdown00:24
siceloyes,00:24
Wizzupbut as I understand it, the voltage reading/estimation helps, right?00:25
sicelohttps://paste.debian.net/1369852/00:25
siceloWizzup: no, those don't help :-)00:26
siceloso there's two parts to the whole thing:00:26
sicelo1) from the voltage, we estimate a very rough percentage that we can use to display a battery icon. doesn't affect shutdown00:27
sicelo2) from capacity_level, we can inform mce that the battery is empty, and mce will request the shutdown (upower will not be requesting any shutdowns anymore with the posted config)00:28
sicelofor people/devices who don't have capacity_level, or prefer to use voltage, mce already understood how to shutdown based on a specific voltage00:29
Wizzupok00:29
Wizzupbuilding leste-config now00:29
siceloideally you also need to review mce ( https://git.maemo.org/leste/mce/pulls/64 ) because that's key to shutting down at the correct time (especially if you need/want to use capacity_level)00:31
WizzupI will do it, but was waiting to see if uvos would pick it up, but he seems preoccupied, so maybe he doesn't mind.00:34
Wizzupleft a comment (looks good to me)00:35
sicelocool, thanks00:49
siceloi did address the mce review from fmg (https://git.maemo.org/leste/mce/pulls/63) and uvos somewhat approved it too in the past ( https://git.maemo.org/leste/bugtracker/issues/766#issuecomment-6368). but yeah, doesn't hurt to wait for final confirmation :-)00:50
Wizzuplet's wait for tomorrow00:53
sicelosure01:04
siceloso in sphone i guess someday we still need to add, for the vcm module, a way to choose an account (ring vs. rakia) for placing an outgoing call01:05
siceloi see conversations has it01:05
WizzupI think that is there now01:07
Wizzupin some crude form01:07
Wizzupgo to the dialer screen, and then click on the 'backend' button01:07
Wizzupit should give you a list of available backends01:07
sicelounless N900 screen is too short, i don't have it01:19
Wizzupyou will need the accounts online/active01:25
sicelooh cool. does work indeed02:10
dsc_arno11: :)02:27
sicelohttps://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/1k15ujd/this_moment_when_your_wife_noticed_the_search/09:50
sicelo:-D09:50
Wizzupyeah, the name trixie has also given me that impression a few times, but it's still easier to type than daedalus or excalibur10:27
Wizzupbut chimaera and daedalus were worse than excalibur10:28
Wizzupthe amount of types I have mistyped 'maemo/daedalus' or something is kind of silly10:28
sicelo:p10:37
dsc_yes me too10:38
siceloI wonder why sphone doesn't blank the screen during a call on the N900 even though iio-sensor-proxy does correctly respond to the proximity sensor15:20
arno11sicelo: you mean it is supposed to work with last updates or ?15:40
siceloarno11: the correct iio-sp is not in Leste yet, but i am running a build that does support N900's proximity sensor. so it beats me why it doesn't seem to have an effect during calls15:44
arno11ah ok15:46
sicelommm, seems i should look in mce15:48
dsc_i wonder why conversations binary is 22mb15:53
dsc_maybe linking against libs that are only available as .a15:57
dsc_oh wait, non-stripped debug builds :P16:01
* dsc_ wakes up16:01
siceloWizzup: would you be able to confirm if the screen blanking on active phone call is still working on the D4? i don't want to spend a lot of time tracking it down for N900 only to find it's broken globally16:05
arno11same for ringtone on D4 btw16:07
siceloah, found it... need to add `iio-proximity` in mce.ini, in [Modules] section16:22
siceloworks now (blanking during incoming call]16:23
arno11cool16:23
dsc_arno11: I made a conversations version without QML16:24
dsc_there will be 2 binaries /usr/bin/conversations and /usr/bin/conversations_slim16:25
dsc_perhaps on n900 this will make the chatwindow faster16:25
arno11sicelo: could you please check if there is no weird noise during call when the screen is of ? (if i blank the screen by hand, sound is a bit distorded actually)16:26
arno11dsc_: @no qml, oh really ? that's nice !16:26
dsc_its in daedalus-devel in a few minutes16:26
arno11ok cool, will try. tyvm man16:27
dsc_beware, the chat window is very basic ;)16:27
arno11np ;)16:27
siceloarno11: mmm, ok. i've finished my credit on the SIM card. let me try with SIP call16:30
siceloah, but maybe that's not going to help for your intended test?16:30
arno11i think you can try with sip16:32
sicelosip call is totally silent unfortunately.16:41
sicelojust made a cellular call - the callee was busy and did not pickup the call. but the entire time that i kept the call going, i could hear the operator's IVR without a problem. no distortion16:43
arno11ok cool, thx16:47
siceloreally feels unbelievable that i'm daily driving N900 and able to make and receive calls without any major issues16:48
arno11yeah, true16:49
kiva48that Casio CA-Mobile G4 Processor is actually Texas Instruments OMAP 343017:09
sicelohah, same as N90017:15
kiva48and it is one of many japanese OMAP 3430 Linux phones under name Docomo, there is even qwerty phones: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-08B17:17
kivaahh that first link before "that Casio..." did not get thru: https://kyoex.com/docomo-nec-casio-ca-01c-exilim-phone-unlocked/18:19
dsc_arno11: fyi you can 'swap' the executable at /etc/X11/Xsession.post/20conversations18:31
Wizzupsicelo: I will try to confirm18:38
Wizzupis it getting stripped?18:39
Wizzup(22mb conversations binary)18:39
Wizzupdsc_^18:39
Wizzupah you said that already18:39
dsc_yeah, I was stupid18:39
dsc_actual binary is 1.4mb18:39
dsc_stripped and all18:39
siceloWizzup: no need to test anymore ... since I figured it out for the N90018:49
arno11dsc_: yeah that's what i did @Xsession18:50
arno11amazing work man btw !18:51
arno11slim version is very fast and useful on n90018:51
arno11sicelo: ^ you should try :)18:51
arno11dsc_: and now i can use qt5ct tweak on boot with no issue with conversations18:52
arno11so tyvm18:52
dsc_arno11: but do you feel a difference?19:00
dsc_maybe window startup time19:00
dsc_chatwindow, that is19:02
arno11chatwindow starts immediately19:12
arno11i takes let's say 500ms now19:14
arno11even if i open several windows19:14
arno11vkb still works fine btw19:19
arno11and ram usage is a way slower19:21
dsc_cool :)19:38
uvosWizzup: can we reduce the ssh key limit to 2048 for the git instance?20:31
Wizzupuvos: I suppose we can, there are about 4 years left before rsa 2048 is deprecated by NIST21:10
Wizzupuvos: try now21:14
Wizzupdsc_: I think if you change xsession only then the .desktop file will still laugh the other one21:30
Wizzupunless the socket stuff at the start prevents this?21:30
arno11i only changed xsession and slim version starts from the .desktop fyi21:35
Wizzupyeah looks like it21:36
WizzupI couldn't get it to show yet but trying again, I did start it as root by accident, so rebooted just in case21:36
arno11ah ok21:37
arno11this slim version is a real improvement (from my n900 daily user point of view), as we can now open and use 10 chats without any troubles and with very low ram usage21:54
Wizzupcan you scroll with a gesture?21:54
arno11lol same question for me21:55
arno11let me check21:55
arno11i can only with the kb21:56
arno11context menu works btw21:56
arno11yeah, the only missing feature seems touch scrolling22:03
uvos!build sphone daedalus22:05
uvosupps22:06
sicelokiva: that docomo Pro N-08B is cute :-)22:28
uvoswhy did they need to name the distro a name with a diphthong again22:30
uvosnow im going to be going deadalus daedalus again until next release :P22:31
Wizzupuvos yeah22:45
arno11hm, in fact scrolling kind of works as i'm able to 'scroll' with text selection. so it is already possible to use conv_slim without hwkb. cool23:58

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