libera/#maemo-leste/ Wednesday, 2025-04-16

Wizzuparno11: 3d and as stated, the platform theme being maemo, which means certain dialogs will be off00:55
dsc_arno11: hi04:28
dsc_ah, its tracked https://git.maemo.org/leste/bugtracker/issues/76404:30
dsc_arno11: i shall look into it with a n900 (because this only happens on n900?)04:43
arno11dsc_: not sure it is n900 specific05:45
arno11Wizzup: hm, i don't see any dialog missing.05:46
arno11@no 3D, why it is a problem with qt5 ? i can't get it: it is known to be buggy on many devices.05:48
dsc_arno11: just so I have a good understanding, every Qt5 takes about 20 sec to startup05:50
dsc_and this is on a n90005:50
arno11yes05:50
dsc_did you try launching without the virtual keyboard support05:51
dsc_this needs an env. variable05:51
arno11yeah, already tried05:51
arno11the vkb seems not related to this issue05:52
dsc_ok05:52
dsc_arno11: so, wizzup uses daedalus on droid4 extensively, and does not report 20sec boot times for qt5 apps05:54
dsc_else we would have mentioned it05:54
dsc_else he*05:54
dsc_so perhaps it is n900 specific?05:55
dsc_(trying to understand the issue)05:55
arno11maybe n900 specific, or maybe it is simply not noticeable on d405:57
sicelofreemangordon: yay, upower folk merged the UPower patch(es).10:04
siceloodd - leste vm can 'see' my laptop's modem, but for some reason activating it just doesn't work, even via direct dbus calls10:39
Wizzupdsc_: re: launch slowness, I am not sure if it is a regression11:22
Wizzupdsc_: and it's 20 seconds, it's cold boot 10-12, and warm boot 5-6 seconds11:22
Wizzupbut there are ways to make the cold boot faster11:22
Wizzupand yeah that's on n900 specifically11:23
Wizzupsicelo: re: modem, is it a usb modem?11:23
sicelointernal modem connected via usb, yes.11:41
Wizzupwhat kind of modem is it?11:42
Wizzupand this is with qemu, right?11:42
siceloBus 001 Device 004: ID 0bdb:193e Ericsson Business Mobile Networks BV N5321 gw11:44
siceloand yes, leste vm on qemu11:44
crabhi all - im trying to set up voip on my n900 using the SIMPLE(haze) voip account thing from the settings menu. Is this working as far as people know?11:45
Wizzuphaze does not do voip, you need to use telepathy-rakia11:45
crabsweet, thanks ill give that a try.11:45
Wizzupsicelo: ok, any nothing in qemu about usb sped mismatches or whatever?11:45
sicelooh, mmm. let me check. dmesg i guess?11:46
Wizzupor qemu stderr11:46
sicelodoesn't seem to have any mismatches11:48
siceloit's not an ofono issue, because even with MM doesn't work - in fact MM doesn't even manage to register the modem at all11:50
sicelobut the modem works fine on the host, with either ofono or MM11:50
Wizzupand it's released properly on the host side?11:51
siceloyes, actually while qemu is running, the modem is not visible to host11:53
crabWizzup: hmm. i installed that from apt and i now see the sip sofia option in accounts but im still not having much luck getting it to sign in. is that the correct approach?11:56
crabooh we may have lift off...11:59
mkfhello.12:00
Wizzupcrab: cool, what did you have  to try?12:04
crabi think setting the transport to auto got it connected12:06
crabi can see it as an endpoint in asterisk12:06
crabbut i cant get it to ring, and i cant seem to find a working dialer but progress is progress.12:06
Wizzupsphone should work if you use telepathhy12:07
Wizzupare you set to online?12:07
n900yeah i have the green dot12:07
n900sphone tries to start but seems to just crash out12:08
Wizzupcrash out, how?12:08
n900so the screen goes black, i see "sphone" in the title bar12:08
n900and then that just disappears and im back to the wallpaper.12:08
Wizzupthis is when you are being rang, or just when you try to start sphone?12:09
n900when i try and start sphone12:09
n900(sphone dialer to be specific)12:09
Wizzupthat seems... bad :)12:09
Wizzupthat's why ringing doesn't work for sure12:10
crabperhaps im missing something12:10
Wizzupmaybe go offline, start sphone, go back online, see if things change?12:10
Wizzupcrab=n900 yeah?>12:10
crabyeah12:10
Wizzupk12:10
crabi installed "telepathy-rakia" but it didnt seem to pull in any package called telepathy12:10
crabdo i need to install that separately?12:11
WizzupI am surprised that wasn't installed laready12:13
Wizzupyou configured the account using the accounts ui, right?12:13
crabyeah12:13
crabim pretty confident its connected to the server ok12:14
crabbecause when i toggle it offline and do "pjsip show endpoints" in asterisk i can see the server says its gone12:14
craband i toggle it back online, and it connects12:14
crabso that bit works12:14
Wizzupok, it seems like the main issue is in sphone currently, is it running? 'ps xua | grep sphone' ?12:14
crabbut there is clearly not something 100% right with the other bits of the stack12:14
crabyeah nothing is running.12:15
Wizzupok, please start it from terminal: 'sphone -v'12:15
crabill try and start it from the terminal and see if i get any interesting errors12:15
Wizzupalso - is this chimaera or daedalus?12:15
crabchimaera12:15
Wizzupchimaera or chimaera-devel?12:15
crabjust chimaera i think12:16
Wizzupok, I think this is the problem12:16
crabok cool12:16
Wizzupplease upgrade to chimaera-devel - we never moved the sphone with vcm to stable in chimaera12:16
Wizzup(it's default in daedalus)12:16
WizzupI think we should just move it over12:16
crabright apologies for these dumb questions, but this stuff confuses me a bit. i know i should probably re-flash the sd card, but im too lazy to do that.12:19
crabin my sources.list i have some devuan repos and the maemo one12:19
crabcan i change the latter from chimaera to chimaera-devel and dist upgrade or will that be futile?12:20
craband do i need to change the devuan repos too?12:20
Wizzupno, you copy he lines with maedevu ... chimaera12:20
crabi assume this is just a maemon thing12:20
Wizzupand make a new line12:20
Wizzupand then change chimaera to chimaera-devel12:20
Wizzupso that you have both12:20
crabheh12:20
crabi think i understand12:20
Wizzupand yes, then dist-upgrade12:23
crabthanks - thats in progress.12:24
crabheres another question that has me a bit confused,12:25
crabthe usb0 interface has an ip address which appears to be hardcoded in the 192.168 range.12:25
Wizzupyes, it's a static assignment for when you connect to pc12:26
crabis there a way to change that address (other than poking it with ip) ?12:26
Wizzupthere is, but I wouldn't unless your specific home subnet matches that one12:27
crabmy home subnet *doesnt* match that one which is why i want to poke it!12:27
crabto be honest its not that important - the wifi on this works very well unlike my zaurus12:27
WizzupI don't think you want it to match your home subnet12:28
crabbut i have recently set up some of the machines in my flat so they are very cdc_ether friendly and it might be fun to give the n900 the same love.12:28
Wizzupso you have a switch or router that does ip over usb and you want to ues it in dhcp mode or somrething?12:28
crabaah, but i have some nice config cooked up so the usb port on the linux box is in my bridge.12:28
crabi generally dont use dhcp12:29
crabbut with the bridge slaac configures the ipv6 side12:29
Wizzupok, well, I think you can just grep -r for the in /etc and find it12:29
Wizzupfor the ip in /etc*12:29
crabi tried that but i couldnt find it in there anywhere!12:29
* crab has another look12:29
Wizzuplet me see12:30
Wizzuph, it's in /usr/lib now for some reason12:30
Wizzupsee12:30
Wizzup/usr/lib/ke-recv/pcsuite-disable.sh12:30
Wizzup/usr/lib/ke-recv/pcsuite-enable.sh12:30
* Wizzup bbl12:31
crabsorry i found it12:31
crabi was messing late last night when i should have been in bed. goodness knows what i was doing.12:31
Wizzupit should be the pcsuite-enable script12:31
crabhmmmm actually i dont find it - i see lots of "192.168" but not "192.168.42.2"12:33
crabanyway ill have a look in there12:33
crabaah /usr12:33
siceloshould be in /etc/network12:35
crabi think Wizzup is correct.12:36
crabit is in /usr/lib/ke-recv12:36
crabi dunno if i want to change it or not12:36
crabits a very complicated (imho) shell script but its also 99% comments.12:37
crabhowever i think that a debian style usb0 config file in /etc/network/interfaces.d would be a bit user friendlier in my entirely unsolicited (but humble) opinion.12:38
siceloindeed, i see it12:40
* sicelo always thought it was in /etc/network :-D12:40
siceloanyway, makes sense to me having it in ke-recv12:40
crabwell i guess the intended use case is to work with that pcsuite software12:43
crabthey never imagined that people with actual linux knowledge would be plugging the phone into linux boxes12:44
crabwhich is incredibly ironic as i still regard the n900 as the greatest "*nix nerd" phone ever made.12:44
siceloyou can just modify ke-recv to suit your needs ... we don't use PC Suite12:50
crabyeah i will prob. give that a try at some point.12:51
siceloWizzup: please create and give me access to firmware-librem5-wlan in leste/*12:58
Wizzupsicelo: ok, do we want it in upstream-forks perhaps, or?13:09
siceloi guess any, as long as it'll be available by default in images (once they become available).13:12
sicelofwiw, i'm packaging it slightly differently from how mobian does it ... they include FW for the PPPro's camera sensor. i dropped that13:13
siceloi guess leste-upstream-forks, seeing as droid4-linux is there too13:18
Wizzupyeah, ok13:20
WizzupI'll make it now13:20
Wizzupdone13:20
sicelotyvm13:23
siceloi've pushed. you can let me know if there's anything else that i'll need to do13:35
siceloI guess when built, it can/should go to a "librem5" repo/component14:04
WizzupI think that is specified in the debian/control file14:25
Wizzupbbut imo we can just keep these kind of packages in main14:25
Wizzupwe mostly used the component to ensure specific leste-config-pkg's were installed14:25
sicelocool15:14
siceloWizzup: updated upower branch, https://git.maemo.org/sicelo/upower/src/branch/leste/daedalus-1.90.917:54
arno11dsc_: nice, qt keyboard works well with telegram-desktop :)21:28
Wizzupsicelo: sweet, sry, some things came up, shall I build it for daedalus-devel or daedalus-experimental?21:38
siceloi'm not sure what's best :-)22:37
siceloi guess -experimental to be on the safe side22:37
Wizzupsicelo: building for -devel22:41
Wizzup:)22:41
Wizzupah, need to chagne the repo url for it (I moved upower to uptsream forks)22:46
sicelocool.22:56
siceloupdated MR for mce, https://git.maemo.org/leste/mce/pulls/64 - needed since upstream requested a change in the variable name holding the capacity_level (originally used `supply_level`)22:57
siceloi've been using this trio of patches (upower, mce, status-area-battery) for quite a few weeks already, so i'm quite confident that they are fine and safe for -devel. that said, if anyone experiences any kind of regression, please do not hesitate to ping me23:01
Wizzupsicelo: the arch builds failed23:06
Wizzuphttps://phoenix.maemo.org/job/upower-binaries/architecture=arm64,label=arm64/32/console23:07
Wizzupdoes this need network access to build?23:10
sicelono, it doesn't23:10
sicelowonder what happened there. i built it on N900 as well as PC23:11
sicelothe 'resource temporarily unavailable' parts are not the issue23:12
siceloperhaps trigger the build one more time?23:13
Wizzupit didn't work for all three arches23:13
Wizzupit does say 'warning: failed to load external entity'23:13
Wizzupseems like some javascript mindsets are taking over :D23:14
sicelothose are not the problem :-)23:19
siceloi think the problem is here, FAILED: policy/org.freedesktop.upower.policy23:20
Wizzupok23:32
Wizzupit says 'error' which usually makes me think it is fatal23:32
sicelothose failed to load external entity are also there if you do a local build23:33
Wizzupok23:33
sicelobut i've never got the policy error23:33
sicelothe real issue, afaics, is23:35
sicelo"60/62] /usr/bin/meson --internal msgfmthelper --msgfmt=/usr/bin/msgfmt ../policy/org.freedesktop.upower.policy.in policy/org.freedesktop.upower.policy xml /build/upower-1.90.9/po23:35
siceloFAILED: policy/org.freedesktop.upower.policy23:35
sicelo/usr/bin/meson --internal msgfmthelper --msgfmt=/usr/bin/msgfmt ../policy/org.freedesktop.upower.policy.in policy/org.freedesktop.upower.policy xml /build/upower-1.90.9/po23:35
sicelo/usr/bin/msgfmt: cannot locate ITS rules for ../policy/org.freedesktop.upower.policy.in"23:35
sicelois jenkins running on up-to-date packages?23:40
siceloWizzup: maybe you're right ... maybe it does require network access to download those resources :-/23:47
WizzupI am not sure if it has network access or not btw23:53
Wizzupactually, this last message seems to be msgfmt, not xsltproc related23:54
sicelobut let's try this:23:54
sicelohttps://paste.debian.net/hidden/ecde29b3/23:55
siceloapply that patch and see if we get anywhere23:55
Wizzupsicelo: did you push this to your git repo as well?23:57
WizzupI can git am it btw23:57
WizzupI'll also re-tag23:57
siceloi haven't pushed yet23:57
siceloso yeah, please `git am` and re-tag :-)23:57
Wizzupok, I can git-am and re-tag if you prefer23:57
Wizzupok23:57

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!