| kona | hrm, and how to get like | and <> on the slide out keyboard in leste? | 02:45 |
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| kona | i tried touching the blue arrow and the ctrl key but that doesnt seem to do it maybe im doing it wrong https://leste.maemo.org/HowTo#How_do_I_show_the_special_keys_virtual_keyboard.3F_2 | 02:56 |
| arno11 | here are the very last msgs from boot log before the freeze: | 12:28 |
| arno11 | https://paste.debian.net/1325606/ | 12:28 |
| arno11 | then, the next msg is related to the next boot | 12:29 |
| Wizzup | there might be more messages that do not get logged | 12:54 |
| arno11 | yes probably | 12:57 |
| arno11 | just before the last msgs, there is also iphbd starting | 12:59 |
| arno11 | anyway we must check swap stuff | 12:59 |
| arno11 | *first | 13:00 |
| arno11 | sicelo: Wizzup: it seems i'm able to boot fine now | 17:24 |
| arno11 | with last upgrade, i just removed pin entry and modest on boot | 17:25 |
| arno11 | why modest: just because i tried to boot with overclock earlier and i noticed that modest used lot of ressources during H-D loading | 17:27 |
| arno11 | and why overclock? : this way i'm able to run top/htop before the freeze | 17:30 |
| arno11 | and swap seems activated for a while (already 60MB used) | 17:31 |
| sicelo | what did you modify to remove modest from boo | 17:40 |
| sicelo | *boot | 17:40 |
| arno11 | i just moved /usr/bin/modest and modest.launch to /home temporary | 17:43 |
| arno11 | if it doesn't work for you, the only diff remaining with my install is the no blur transitions file. | 17:51 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: when you have time, could you plz check if sysctl vm.page-cluster=8 on your n900 ? | 17:56 |
| arno11 | (just to check if vm custom stuff still works on boot) | 17:57 |
| Wizzup | arno11: what should I check exactly? | 19:53 |
| kona | Wizzup: arno isn't here | 19:55 |
| kona | but i think they wanted to know if vm.page-cluster is set to 8 | 19:56 |
| arno11 | yes exactly | 19:56 |
| arno11 | :) | 19:56 |
| kona | i installed the 0804 image yesterday and it says 8 for me | 19:57 |
| arno11 | ah ok thanks | 19:57 |
| arno11 | so that's ok | 19:58 |
| arno11 | kona: and you're able to boot fine ? no freeze ? | 19:59 |
| kona | i tried holding the blue button and ctrl on the hardware keyboard to bring up the special keys virtual kbd but i must not be doing it right because no dialogue. | 19:59 |
| kona | i had one freeze or something that looked like a freeze. | 19:59 |
| kona | right after activating zramtools | 20:00 |
| kona | i.e. sudo apt install zram-tools && sudo reboot | 20:00 |
| arno11 | you should not activate zram stuff imo | 20:00 |
| kona | it booted and showed the "welcome to maemo" but nothing was clickable and the power button didn't seem to do anything when held 10 seconds, so i removed the battery. put battery in, and it booted. | 20:01 |
| kona | i also had a core from X | 20:02 |
| kona | well, Xorg, i guess. | 20:02 |
| arno11 | ok yep | 20:02 |
| arno11 | the core from x is 'normal' lol | 20:02 |
| kona | if it happens again, do you want the core? | 20:02 |
| arno11 | nope :) i just want to know if there is no freeze on boot without zram | 20:04 |
| kona | ok, is there an easy way to disable zram? | 20:04 |
| arno11 | *on your device | 20:04 |
| arno11 | it is not activated by default | 20:05 |
| kona | it isn't by default, but i installed zramtools and now it is. | 20:05 |
| arno11 | argh | 20:05 |
| kona | /dev/zram0 partition 118.4M 113.4M 100 | 20:06 |
| kona | i can re-image, haven't really done much set up yet,. | 20:06 |
| arno11 | ok, maybe better, indeed | 20:07 |
| arno11 | bbiab | 20:07 |
| kona | cool | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | ok, my leste n900 hangs soon after h-d is started | 20:21 |
| freemangordon | hard to say why, but it really seems OOM | 20:22 |
| arno11 | kona: btw for special char, you should click on blue arrow and then immediately on Ctrl | 20:22 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: ah | 20:22 |
| freemangordon | so, 6.6 is really not ready for stable | 20:23 |
| arno11 | agree | 20:23 |
| freemangordon | and we shall find why emmc swap does not work | 20:23 |
| freemangordon | well, "does not work properly' | 20:24 |
| arno11 | yep | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | now I removed SIM, to see if it make any difference | 20:24 |
| arno11 | ok, maybe we should check if every kernel commits are ok | 20:25 |
| arno11 | i removed modest on boot, which was using lot of ressources during H-D loading and was able to reboot fine | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: emmc swa, not working is not the cause of the hang | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: yes, I know | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | also sd card swap seems genuinelly better | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | it's faster than ever for me, my n900 | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | seems /swap is not activated early enough | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | could be, not too hard to solve/identify | 20:27 |
| Wizzup | I just didn't look yet | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | hmm, seems like SGX lock, not OOM | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | but yesterday it was working fine | 20:27 |
| Wizzup | serial would tell | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | I don;t have | 20:27 |
| Wizzup | kinda sucks that only I have serial | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | lol | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | lemme see if there is anything in syslog | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | I can hook it up tonight or tomorrow | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | no, it is not the swap | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | I see "swap activated" message | 20:33 |
| arno11 | i bet on SGX | 20:33 |
| arno11 | i see swap using 60MB just before the freeze btw | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | but why would SGX start freezing? | 20:34 |
| arno11 | iirc there are few changes in 6.6 | 20:35 |
| freemangordon | on d4 there is no issue | 20:36 |
| freemangordon | ok, no idea what's going on, but yesterday it was booting fine | 20:45 |
| freemangordon | hmm, the last I see is "WAKELINES TEST OK" | 20:48 |
| freemangordon | hmm, no | 20:49 |
| freemangordon | there is more | 20:49 |
| kona | arno11: n900 seems to maybe be wedged on first boot | 20:51 |
| kona | oh, yeah. hardware watchdog just reset it. | 20:52 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: yes, please, I don;t think I will be able to fix that without help | 20:54 |
| kona | arno11: i've got it booted under freemantle presently in case you want me to retrieve any files. | 20:55 |
| freemangordon | hmm, after removing SIM it boots | 20:57 |
| Wizzup | from what I could tell the freeze was random for me, with or without sim | 21:11 |
| arno11 | same for me, totally random | 21:13 |
| Wizzup | ok, tomorrow I will do the serial unit tests | 21:15 |
| kona | i have no sim | 21:16 |
| kona | just 512GB EVO Select TF card | 21:16 |
| arno11 | kona: ok | 21:20 |
| kona | 2nd boot frozen too :O | 21:22 |
| arno11 | hm, weird, but could you try to reboot without modest guys ? 3rd reboot wihout issue | 21:37 |
| arno11 | (usually not possible) | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | arno11: please... | 21:39 |
| freemangordon | modest cannot hang the device | 21:39 |
| arno11 | it uses 100% cpu for a long time while HD is loading... | 21:43 |
| freemangordon | so? | 21:43 |
| freemangordon | that should not kause device hang | 21:43 |
| freemangordon | *cause | 21:43 |
| arno11 | it's enough for freezing the device for 1 min (like trackers can do) | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | no, I waited here at least 5 minutes | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | also, that should happen *every* time, not sometimes | 21:46 |
| arno11 | yes ! | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | but it does not happen every time | 21:46 |
| arno11 | indeed | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | trust me, this is not modest | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | with 6.1 modest was using the same CPU, no? | 21:47 |
| arno11 | i'm not saying that's modest directly but it didn't use so much ressources previously iirc | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | modest has not been changed for at least an year | 21:48 |
| arno11 | 2 years | 21:48 |
| arno11 | in fact | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | so, if kernel upgrade is causing userspace to misbehave, I would say this is kernel issue, not userspace | 21:48 |
| arno11 | makes sense | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | so, please, do not send PR to disable modest on n900 :) | 21:49 |
| arno11 | :P | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | lets just wait Wizzup to provide setial console output | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | *serial | 21:49 |
| arno11 | yep | 21:51 |
| uvos | oom can easly hang the device permanently | 23:08 |
| uvos | the kernel is _terrible_ in handling oom, allways has been | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | uvos: but swap is enabled | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | it is clearly visible in the logs | 23:09 |
| uvos | how big is swap? | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | 1G | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | GiB | 23:10 |
| uvos | hm ok | 23:11 |
| arno11 | i tried with smaller swap, same issue btw | 23:11 |
| arno11 | and even if there is | 23:11 |
| arno11 | oops | 23:11 |
| freemangordon | 6.1 with smaller swap had no issues | 23:12 |
| uvos | i wonder if we can run out of pined ram | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | I doubt, when device boots normally, there is about 100MiB free RAM | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | and 30-40MiB swap used | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | so I would bet on kernel oops/SGX freeze rather than on OOM | 23:14 |
| uvos | sgx is obv pretty strange as d4 is perfetcly happy | 23:15 |
| Wizzup | not the same hw | 23:15 |
| uvos | i dont think there should be too manny code paths different there | 23:15 |
| uvos | Wizzup: yeah but its very close | 23:15 |
| Wizzup | in any case I'll just attach serial and hopefully we won't have to hypothesis | 23:15 |
| Wizzup | hypothesize | 23:15 |
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