| Wizzup | freemangordon: you don't need n900 to recreate blur, it's slow on mapphones too | 00:26 |
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| Wizzup | it's the main reason status menu opens slow I think | 00:38 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: also, icon for otp? :D | 00:43 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: how it opens slow (h-s-m)? to me it is normal | 07:36 |
| freemangordon | arno11: so, I need to know which exactly change makes it faster | 07:57 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: [home] radius = 0 and radius_more = 0 | 09:30 |
| arno11 | instead of 12 and 16 | 09:31 |
| freemangordon | hmm, ok, that does not make sense :) | 09:31 |
| freemangordon | that should affect pressing shortcuts only | 09:31 |
| freemangordon | but ok, will check | 09:31 |
| arno11 | seems just a workaround to block blur | 09:31 |
| freemangordon | which blur? | 09:32 |
| arno11 | it doesn't really deactivate it | 09:32 |
| freemangordon | anyway, will check | 09:32 |
| arno11 | see tmo threads | 09:32 |
| arno11 | *about blur | 09:33 |
| freemangordon | link? | 09:33 |
| arno11 | (sorry, a bit busy atm) i forgot to mention that some themes override some transitions, that's maybe why we observe different behaviours from a device to another | 09:34 |
| arno11 | bbl | 09:34 |
| freemangordon | ok | 09:35 |
| sicelo | when i boot my n900, once everything is loaded, it then hangs completely. any ideas? | 09:42 |
| sicelo | e.g. if i boot and don't interact with device, after booting, screen turns off (which is normal), then i can't wake up device anymore | 09:43 |
| arno11 | freemangordon:# Blurring of the home view | 09:44 |
| arno11 | # -- radius: amount of iterations of blur filter to perform when not zoooming | 09:44 |
| arno11 | # eg. for dialogs | 09:44 |
| arno11 | # -- radius_more: amount of iterations of blur filter to perform when zooming | 09:44 |
| arno11 | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905&page=246 | 09:44 |
| arno11 | sicelo: that's the actual boot issue (freeze) | 09:45 |
| arno11 | it works if you restart 3-4 times | 09:45 |
| sicelo | mmm, ok | 09:46 |
| arno11 | but that's a pita | 09:48 |
| arno11 | seems oom but not sure | 09:48 |
| arno11 | that's totaly random | 09:48 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: iirc (from cssu threads), the 2 radius settings in [home] make all transitions buggy | 09:54 |
| arno11 | it has never been solved apparently | 09:55 |
| arno11 | it was not really visible on D4 (the slowness), excepting for h-s-m and power button menu | 09:57 |
| arno11 | that's all i know | 09:59 |
| sicelo | if it's oom, shouldn't device recover eventually? | 10:03 |
| arno11 | tht's why i'm really not sure it is oom | 10:05 |
| arno11 | and sometimes i'm able to see that swap is already activated before the freeze | 10:06 |
| uvos__ | linux can absulty essentaly hang indefinately on oom | 10:09 |
| uvos__ | with the oom killer never activateing | 10:09 |
| arno11 | ok | 10:13 |
| arno11 | iirc this issue appeared in december | 10:13 |
| uvos__ | could just be leste growing in size | 10:14 |
| arno11 | but now that's more complicated to boot | 10:14 |
| arno11 | yes indeed | 10:14 |
| uvos__ | oculd be something else too | 10:14 |
| uvos__ | needs serial output | 10:14 |
| arno11 | yep | 10:15 |
| arno11 | bbl | 10:18 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: this is with latest changes right? | 11:09 |
| sicelo | iirc it was there before, but does seem worse now somehow | 11:42 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: just checking if you got sd swap properly | 11:58 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: so, what will happen if you don;'t have sd swap partition? | 12:00 |
| freemangordon | also, I don;t understand why we don;t try to find the regression, but hacking around instead | 12:01 |
| Wizzup | /swap is on rootfs so no need for swap partition | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | better first see if it is fixed in latest kernel | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | btw I think the first thing to check is if swap is enabled early enough in boot process | 13:28 |
| Wizzup | if it enabled relatively late, then all bets are off | 13:28 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: to resume: we have 3 issues on boot maybe linked each other: emmc swap very slow with kernel 6.6, hsm crash and freeze on boot with 6.1 and 6.6 | 13:31 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: true | 13:32 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: new devel upgrade works fine | 14:23 |
| arno11 | the new swap has been added but it doesn't check if a previous swapfile is there | 14:24 |
| arno11 | btw the n900-perf.conf script seems to not work anymore. can someone confirm ? | 14:25 |
| Wizzup | arno11: it checks for /swap | 14:25 |
| Wizzup | if you named it something else, then yeah | 14:25 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 14:25 |
| arno11 | makes sense, no probs anyway | 14:25 |
| arno11 | so i tried to reboot without hsm earlier, and still the same boot issue | 14:26 |
| arno11 | but able to reboot fine after the last upgrade | 14:26 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: btw do you see an error on boot with n900-perf.conf script ? | 14:46 |
| arno11 | scratch that, that's just on my device | 15:16 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: we're finding that we will indeed likely need keyring for matrix and omemo xmpp keys | 16:24 |
| arno11 | sicelo: did you upgrade to the last devel stuff btw ? | 17:00 |
| sicelo | yes | 17:12 |
| arno11 | ok and able to boot now ? | 17:14 |
| arno11 | just curious | 17:15 |
| arno11 | i already try to remove many things from xsession and custom n900 stuff from init.d, still the same issue (until the last upgrade, seems better now) | 17:16 |
| arno11 | so we definitely need to check when swap is really starting on boot | 17:18 |
| arno11 | btw hsm crash is definitely a different problem bcs n900 freezes without it on boot | 17:29 |
| arno11 | same for vm custom stuff | 17:29 |
| arno11 | and it still happens randomly | 17:30 |
| arno11 | (just as a reminder) | 17:31 |
| arno11 | same for cmtspeech | 17:34 |
| arno11 | ah, i didn't try to boot without nokia-modem | 17:34 |
| Wizzup | arno11: first thing to check is when swam is loaded I think | 17:37 |
| Wizzup | oh this is for your status menu issue? | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: I think I am missing something in regards to that 'blur' issue | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | you say opening h-s-m is slow, right? | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | and also scrolling? | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | arno11: did you have chance to measure FPS? | 17:42 |
| arno11 | i have to go now, but this evening/night should be ok for fps | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:44 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: yes for swap, that's what i said as well :P | 17:45 |
| arno11 | bbl | 17:46 |
| freemangordon | ok, I upgraded, enabled swap on emmc and disabled /swap and I see no performance issue | 19:43 |
| freemangordon | also, I put sim card in that device, albeit it is old one and will not register to the network | 19:44 |
| freemangordon | hmm, yeah, device seems to freeze for couple of seconds | 19:48 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: got the fps results: | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | please pastebin, irc does not allow more than one line | 19:53 |
| arno11 | with no radius, 44 fps in app menu, 30 fps on desktops | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | arno11: sorry, what is app menu? | 19:54 |
| arno11 | 25 fps in app menu with radius enable | 19:54 |
| arno11 | the icons menu | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | hildon-status-menu? | 19:54 |
| arno11 | nope | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | launcher? | 19:55 |
| arno11 | the menu where there are all apps | 19:55 |
| arno11 | yes the launcher | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | ah, so launcher | 19:55 |
| arno11 | there is a huge diff with blur vs no blur | 19:55 |
| arno11 | btw enabling fps mode slows down the device a bit | 19:55 |
| arno11 | so probably around 50 fps with no blur | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | ok, but 25 fps on n900 is not exactly 'slow' | 19:57 |
| arno11 | maybe but the feeling is slow | 19:57 |
| arno11 | and apps are slow to launch | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | well, that's a personal POV :) | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | ok, lemme disable it to check | 19:58 |
| arno11 | hm not really imo | 19:58 |
| arno11 | yes you should try | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | here desktops scroll with > 50 fps and blur enabled | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | 55 | 20:00 |
| freemangordon | year, rigth | 20:02 |
| arno11 | ??? | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | without blur it is very fast | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | but, blur should not affect the scrolling | 20:02 |
| arno11 | yes agree | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | as it is just a texture | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | ok, will have a look | 20:03 |
| arno11 | ok | 20:03 |
| sicelo | arno11: so after upgrading is when i could no longer really use the device :-) | 20:05 |
| sicelo | there is /swap file on SD card when I mount it on pc | 20:06 |
| sicelo | but yes, right now i can't use Leste on the N900 | 20:06 |
| arno11 | wow :( | 20:06 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: did the swap cause issue? | 20:56 |
| sicelo | i don't know ... i doubt though | 20:57 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:57 |
| sicelo | i was just saying /swap exists... which i guess means i'm up-to-date? | 20:57 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 21:01 |
| arno11 | if it is not swap, what else ? kernel ? | 21:02 |
| arno11 | i already try to remove lot of stuff on boot, still the same | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | arno11: ok, got 50 fps with blur enabled | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | the issue comes from saturate shader | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | we may want to introduce additional setting to be able to disable it, but lemme try to optimize it a bit first | 21:25 |
| arno11 | ok great ! | 21:28 |
| kona | ok i probably am just unable to read but how to get the u-boot menu on n900? | 23:34 |
| kona | it gave me the menu once and i booted to fremantle and now i want to boot leste and it just keeps going to fremantle. | 23:37 |
| arno11 | to get the menu you need to keep the keyboard opened | 23:39 |
| kona | oh, thanks | 23:48 |
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