libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2025-03-26

landleyAnybody know why the devuan mirrors don't work from tokyo?06:18
onefangThe deb.devuan.org package mirrors you mean?06:21
landleyYup.06:21
landleyapt-get update and friends only work if I VPN back to the states.06:21
onefangIs it resolving differently?06:22
landleyIt seems to be geographically distributing to something that doesn't have the right keys?06:23
amarsh04I also use http://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged as a fast mirror06:23
onefangsledjhamr is mine.  That's working from Tokyo?06:24
onefangThe deb.devuan.org DNS-RR shouldn't be geographic, you use a CC.deb.devuan.org if you want that, where CC is the country code.  The only thing "geographic" might be your DNS resolver.06:27
landleyOk, not a known issue then. I'll see if it behaves differently from a couple coffee shops...06:29
landleyThanks.06:29
onefangYou are welcome, and good luck.06:29
amarsh04I visit Japan often but haven't had a Devuan machine with me when I do.06:30
onefangWe don't have any mirror monitoring infrastructure there.06:32
onefangdevuan.m10k.jp is actually in Japan, so might be useful as a local mirror there.06:34
amarsh04anyone here currently running timidity / timidity-daemon under Devuan?13:00
gnarfaceamarsh04: i'm not, though i am still using it for dosbox anyway. what's your question?14:37
amarsh04gnarface, I posted in the forum, but the timidity start-up script fails due to the timidity binary not supporting a --pidfile option like the start-up script uses14:41
gnarfacereally? that's weird...14:43
gnarfaceworking for me14:44
gnarfaceare you on daedalus?14:44
amarsh04no, ceres14:45
amarsh04I can try an older version14:45
gnarfaceoh, they must have broke it then in ceres14:45
gnarfaceit's working fine on daedalus for me anyway, though i don't usually run it by the init script because it's useless for dosbox if it doesn't start as the same user as dosbox14:46
gnarface(that information was way harder to find than it should have been)14:47
amarsh04OK timidity / timidity-daemon 2.14.0-8 appear to work14:51
amarsh04gnarface, not working after all, will check further15:07
gnarfacecould it actually be a problem with daemon tools?15:08
amarsh04could be, might also boot into an older kernel to try that15:08
gnarfaceer, i guess start-stop-daemon is in dpkg now15:09
gnarfacebut yea i think they could have broke that15:09
amarsh04a pidfile does get created but the timidity process dies very quickly15:09
gnarfacehmm15:09
amarsh04I could customise the init script to use the daeamon binary from the daemon package instead15:10
amarsh04daemon binary even15:10
SamuelMarkshi20:13
SamuelMarksI am playing around with init systems to try and get a consistent experience whether inside or outside of Docker. So outside of Docker default OS+distribution init system (e.g., systemd, openrc); but inside Docker I am figuring things out. Lots of s6-overlay proponents… but what do you think of just openrc on debian derived distributions?20:16
* SamuelMarks posted https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=713620:23
davespSo you're advocating against Init Freedom?  ("https://www.devuan.org/os/init-freedom")22:03
golinuxWhaaat?22:09
fsmithreddepends on how you interpret the question. "just openrc" for Sam or for everyone?22:11
SamuelMarksdavesp - Kinda the opposite. I'm trying to figure out the best way to have init freedom but for practical interoperability rather than commitment-to-freedom reasons23:42

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