libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2025-02-26

stribikaso this code goes out to dbus, and asks logind (i guess elogind in my case) if one of the sessions uses the tty it wants00:00
stribikai have straces of it doing that00:01
stribikabut somehow it doesn't see the actual session. and even if it did, normally there is no session, but getty still uses tty1, so i don/t understand how this check is supposed to work00:02
gnarfacehmm00:02
gnarfacedo you have seatd running too?00:02
gnarfacei wonder if this has something to do with the new seatd mess00:03
stribikai don't have it installed00:03
gnarfacereally? i thought it had to be installed00:04
gnarfacei just disable it here, but i'm also not using a login manager, i just use startx00:04
gnarface(everything seems to work fine with startx, with or without seatd, i just don't like it)00:04
stribikai will try lightdm then00:06
gnarfacei can't be sure it will help with this, but it was the only one i didn't have problems with when i was installing another machine for a friend who wanted KDE and a working login manager00:06
gnarfacei still had to switch some backend package from the default to a non-default option to make the shutdown/hibernate/suspend buttons work right, but i forget what that was00:07
stribikaheh, that somewhat recently started to work on its own for me.00:10
gnarfacemy guess is the consequence of an upgrade or installation must have shifted that package choice for you00:11
gnarface(the system in question has been upgraded across multiple releases, so maybe they fixed it in daedalus)00:11
rrqgnarface: you shouldn't poo-poo the seatd patch for Xorg; it's that one that makes it possible to run startx (if you have due access to devnodes). With the patch, you would have been forced to use logind and dbus.00:15
gnarfacerrq: well, i'm still forced to use dbus anyway00:16
stribikai will make a bug report for sddm, even if lightdm works, it seems like a legit issue00:16
stribikathanks for the help00:16
gnarfacenot sure i really helped yet, but you're welcome anyway00:17
rrq... Without the patch, ...00:18
gnarface[NoClan]GoAway: hey are you still having that problem with KDE Discover? i came up with a couple more solutions to try based on solutions people found for the same problem in Arch linux00:26
gnarfaceor was that only the other guy?00:27
gnarfacehe doesn't seem to be here anymore, but if hiddendjinn comes back someone tell him i may have found a solution00:29
dosensuppe1plasma41: indeed, sorry I didn't notice. I just installed every package that the make script put inside the directory.17:24
dosensuppe1the patched package correctly put the cron scripts inside the directory17:24

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