libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2025-02-06

eyalrozHello Devuaners, are you aware of this pam change? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54393#p5439300:36
comborico1611Requesting help: APT cannot connect to deb.devuan.org22:45
fsmithredcomborico1611, did you wait and try again? Sometimes the mirror is in the middle of updating.22:57
fsmithredand if you still don't get through you can select a mirror near you instead of using the round-robin.22:57
fsmithredhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt22:58
fsmithredthis page shows if mirrors are up or down: https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html22:59
comborico1611fsmithred, I did not know this.  However, I just routed to a mirror site from sources.list23:06
fsmithredyou just took whatever deb.devuan.org gave you?23:07
comborico1611And it is updating/upgrading.  I´m actually using your Refracta. I arrived in the Philippines a few days ago.  And I have this old crappy laptop.23:08
fsmithredmake sure your time zone is set correctly23:08
fsmithredthat can confuse apt if it's off23:08
comborico1611I searched for backup mirrors and found this on dev1galaxy: deb http://devuan.sedf.de/merged daedalus-security main23:09
comborico1611I did not know that.23:09
fsmithredapt-panopticon says sedf.de is OK23:10
comborico1611By the way, do you know how to execute emacs graphically as root?23:10
fsmithredin Refracta you can 'su' and then run graphical programs.23:11
comborico1611I guess the issue is I am accessing root as "su -" environment23:11
fsmithredI think in live-iso you can also do 'sudo <command>'23:11
fsmithredyeah, that won't work.23:12
comborico1611Love me some graphical...23:12
fsmithredsee /etc/default/su for the magic that reverts the behavior of 'su'23:12
comborico1611Good to know.  Thank you.23:12
fsmithredyw23:13
fsmithredsomewhere on the forum I posted a list of the config files that I tweaked.23:13
comborico1611I don't see su in default folder23:15
comborico1611_(Wrong command for exiting #debian room haha)23:19
fsmithredexport PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin23:20
rrqcomborico1611: I think, to run X11 programs as root in a user's DE, the easiest is to set up for doing "ssh root@localhost -X", and then run whatever X1 program there23:21
fsmithred^^^ I have that in root's .bashrc in this system (upgraded from beowulf to chimaera)23:21
fsmithredwhich version of refracta are you running?23:22
rrqcomborico1611: e.g: ssh root@localhost -X xterm23:22
comborico1611_rrq, ty23:22
comborico1611_fsmithred, not sure.  Looking for About System ahaha not very strong Linux user23:23
fsmithredcat /etc/refracta_version23:23
comborico1611_Installed the latest last yaer23:23
fsmithreduname -r23:23
comborico1611_12.023:24
fsmithreddaedalus23:25
comborico1611_6.1.0-11-amd6423:25
comborico1611_interesting word23:25
fsmithredyeah, I just booted one of the isos.23:25
fsmithredit's a name23:25
fsmithredfather of Icarus and one of the minor planets23:26
comborico1611_sounds like greek father of the guy with wings and the sun23:26
fsmithredyes23:26
comborico1611_ahh ok23:26
fsmithredso, I put that path line in /root/.bashrc23:26
fsmithredthat's another way to do the same thing23:26
fsmithred'man su' says to use /etc/default/su. There are a few other things you can put in there, but I've never investigated them.23:27
comborico1611_I don't need to access it that often.  I was just thinking there was some easy trick.  I am really just trying to install Lynx text browser for a little job I have here.23:29
fsmithredinto a live system, or is this installed?23:29
comborico1611_At first I tried to install manually with ./configure but... some issue with no makefile.  Oh well. I will learn a bit at a time.23:29
comborico1611_Installed23:30
fsmithredok, your kernel is pretty old23:30
comborico1611_Heh23:30
comborico1611_last year is old now?23:30
fsmithredmight want to run apt update && apt upgrade23:30
comborico1611_I did23:30
comborico1611_500 megs of stuff23:31
fsmithredI booted a 12.1 nox iso that I made in october and it has 6.1.0-2623:31
fsmithredmake sure linux-image-amd64 is installed. It's a metapackage that will always pull in the latest stable kernel.23:32
comborico1611_linux-headers-generic is not installed. (searched: "linux-image-amd64 how to check if installed").  Then, I tried su -, apt install linux-headers-generic.  0 upgraded 0 installed.23:36
fsmithredmaybe look in /boot to see if you have a newer kernel but somehow booted an older one23:36
fsmithreddpkg -l |grep linux-image-amd6423:36
fsmithredor without the |grep in this case, since it's the exact package name23:37
comborico1611_dpkg -l |grep linux-image-amd6423:37
comborico1611_ii  linux-image-amd64                    6.1.124-1                               amd64        Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)23:37
comborico1611_Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold23:38
comborico1611_| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend23:38
comborico1611_|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)23:38
comborico1611_||/ Name              Version      Architecture Description23:38
comborico1611_+++-=================-============-============-===============================>23:38
comborico1611_ii  linux-image-amd64 6.1.124-1    amd64        Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-pack>23:38
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comborico1611_whoa. sorry about that23:38
fsmithredI don't understand. Mine says 6.1.112-1 but 'uname -r' shows newer than yours.23:40
comborico1611_Computers are mysterious.23:40
fsmithredheh, I need to upgrade.23:40
fsmithredplease look in /boot and see if you have one newer than -1123:41
comborico1611_I will probably remove myself from this computer for a while, actually.23:41
comborico1611_k23:41
comborico1611_config-6.1.0-11-amd6423:42
fsmithredok23:42
comborico1611_initrd.img-6.1.0-11-amd6423:42
comborico1611_Until next time! Thank you!23:44
fsmithredhave fun23:44
comborico1611_you too23:44
comborico1611_ext23:44
comborico1611_exit23:44

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