| freem | fsmithred: https://snapper.io/faq.html (which have broken tls) says: « Does snapper support ext4? | 00:25 |
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| freem | No, the support in snapper is discontinued and you need a special kernel and e2fsprogs. For more information see the next4 project.» | 00:25 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 01:06 |
| debdog | https://youtu.be/4OqQhnj6dhg | 01:17 |
| debdog | oopsie | 01:17 |
| Alverstone | Do you think s6 is technically superior to openrc/runit/sysvinit? Their page reads quite bright. It's also almost dead simple too. The only thing I see askew is that the stage one is the thing as ever - a shell script, which brings us back to the legacy of sysvinit with its already polished startup scripts that work very well but don't quite fit anywhere either | 21:50 |
| gnarface | Alverstone: it seems to have some more advanced features but the big question to me is how well it's supported | 23:17 |
| gnarface | though i don't claim to be directly familiar with it | 23:17 |
| freem | Alverstone: technically superior to runit, yes, it have more features, for certain | 23:47 |
| freem | but it shares a systemd problem: complexity and learning curve, even if lower than systemd | 23:47 |
| Alverstone | freem, i think it is several orders of magnitude simpler that systemd. what's complex about it? | 23:49 |
| Alverstone | gnarface, my system is super simple there isn't much to support | 23:49 |
| freem | you are right, but also orders of magnitude more complex than runit :p | 23:49 |
| freem | the nice point is that it can do dependency checks, imo, other stuff... don't care. | 23:50 |
| Alverstone | what is more complex? in terms of usage and maintenance it seems dead simple. basically runit + socket activation (who needs it at all?) + service notifications instead of sv start dependency || exit 1 | 23:51 |
| freem | learning | 23:53 |
| freem | runit is pure shell, s6 uses a DSL | 23:53 |
| Alverstone | learning :( | 23:54 |
| Alverstone | s6 uses anything you want I personally can't care for execline as of now | 23:54 |
| Alverstone | he just "humbly" promotes execline as a solution to whatever | 23:54 |
| Alverstone | yeah /bin/sh isn't that simple I just don't know why'd you want anything else if /bin/sh already works and occupies minimum of resources | 23:55 |
| freem | don't take me wrong, I think s6 is a better solution, but runit is a brainless thing when you know shell | 23:56 |
| freem | and because there is no dependency handling, it is damn simple | 23:56 |
| Alverstone | how do you feel about basically using sysvinit as stage 1? (s6 doesn't solve it either, just asking) | 23:57 |
| Alverstone | and half of stage 3 for that matter | 23:57 |
| freem | I don't know what the heck are the sysVinit stages useful at | 23:59 |
| freem | runit doe snot have them neither | 23:59 |
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