| rrq | APic: script /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/udev failed without telling why.. change its top line to have -ex, to get more log | 00:44 |
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| Guest46 | thinking about installing minimal devuan ill just use window manager last time i tried doing that i didnt manage to install nivida drivers and didnt manage to start window manager | 04:01 |
| Guest46 | how can i install nvidia drivers | 04:01 |
| freem | you need to enable non-free repo for a start | 04:01 |
| freem | then it depends on the GPU you're using, you'll need to search through the list given by apt (or aptitude if, like me, you're too lazy to learn all apt subcommands by heart for no reason) | 04:02 |
| Guest46 | i did sudo apt install nvidia-drivers | 04:03 |
| Guest46 | or maybe nvidia-driver | 04:03 |
| Guest46 | and it didnt worked | 04:03 |
| freem | IIRC I used to install a package named like xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-xxxxx but maybe for wayland it differs or there's a meta-package that brings all | 04:04 |
| Guest46 | i dont use wayland installed for xorg | 04:04 |
| freem | huh? you don't wan't wayland, or you don't want xorg? | 04:04 |
| freem | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-nvidia&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all anyway those packages are the kind I used to install when I still used a dedicated GPU | 04:05 |
| Guest46 | dont want wayland because it doesnt work on nvidia | 04:05 |
| freem | ah | 04:05 |
| freem | if you say so | 04:05 |
| freem | anyway, I usually just have my i3, xinit and a graphical driver installed | 04:06 |
| freem | and everything always worked like a charm | 04:06 |
| Guest46 | very nice | 04:06 |
| Guest46 | thats my plan tbh | 04:06 |
| freem | I don't know about wayland, though (nor do I care) | 04:07 |
| freem | well, you don't need anything special really | 04:07 |
| Guest46 | nvidia part always fails me | 04:07 |
| freem | worst case you could start by using xserver-xorg-video-vesa as a fallback | 04:07 |
| freem | what does not works with your nvidia setup exactly? | 04:07 |
| Guest46 | so it is nvidia dkms i tried to install | 04:08 |
| Guest46 | setup was just failed | 04:08 |
| Guest46 | it says it didnt installed | 04:08 |
| freem | any error message? | 04:08 |
| Guest46 | cant remember | 04:08 |
| freem | guess it will be hard to help then :D | 04:08 |
| Guest46 | more harder is to deal with something that just doesnt work | 04:09 |
| Guest46 | on debian i installed very easily | 04:09 |
| Guest46 | maybe need some special thing for devuan | 04:09 |
| freem | yeah, I don't remember any problem installing drivers | 04:09 |
| freem | hm... I don't see why | 04:10 |
| freem | is the module compiled/linked at install time? | 04:10 |
| freem | for a start | 04:10 |
| Guest46 | yea | 04:10 |
| freem | so the library exists | 04:10 |
| Guest46 | remember kernel compiling | 04:10 |
| Guest46 | at install | 04:10 |
| freem | did you tried to modprobe it? | 04:11 |
| freem | (which means ask the kernel to load the driver, manually) | 04:11 |
| freem | (IIRC) | 04:11 |
| Guest46 | didnt | 04:11 |
| freem | well, if doing so helps, then it means the problem might be related to (e?)udev | 04:12 |
| freem | I suppose devuan uses eudev, and there might be a small difference in this regard between the 2 | 04:12 |
| freem | try to save error messages next time you try | 04:13 |
| freem | without info, people can only emit wild guesses | 04:13 |
| Guest46 | is there any guide to install minimal debian setup | 04:14 |
| Guest46 | like where u install xorg drivers | 04:14 |
| Guest46 | this is where i fail | 04:14 |
| freem | not that I'm aware of... | 04:14 |
| freem | wdym, where do you install them | 04:14 |
| freem | you just ask some dpkg frontend to do it for you | 04:14 |
| Guest46 | something doesnt just works i dont know | 04:15 |
| Guest46 | i put i3 to xintrc | 04:15 |
| Guest46 | it just doesnt work but it should | 04:15 |
| Guest46 | xorg fails | 04:15 |
| freem | https://p.mort.coffee/muE this is my own .xinitrc | 04:15 |
| freem | it's a bit weird, I know | 04:16 |
| freem | well, ok, not a good idea to share it :D | 04:16 |
| freem | it is completely alien | 04:16 |
| Guest46 | lol | 04:16 |
| freem | and I don't even remember how this works | 04:16 |
| freem | oh, got it, I use runit to run my window manager | 04:17 |
| freem | right | 04:17 |
| * freem needs to clean that old mess someday | 04:17 | |
| Guest46 | i think ill just give another try | 04:17 |
| Guest46 | i was using mx linux but that distro is not that hackable | 04:17 |
| freem | normally the only thing you really need in this is "exec i3" | 04:17 |
| Guest46 | need something like arch | 04:17 |
| Guest46 | but debian and no systemd | 04:18 |
| freem | FWIW I run debian without systemd :p | 04:18 |
| Guest46 | cool stuff u do | 04:18 |
| freem | well, I started using runit before devuan was born, so not much of a problem | 04:19 |
| Guest46 | so in general i just need to install xorg and drivers right | 04:19 |
| freem | I remember using devuan as well for a while, but it had some bugs which were annoying me back in time | 04:19 |
| Guest46 | after that if i can start window manager i would do all stuff there | 04:19 |
| freem | one moment, I'll go check if I have my own list of pacakges somewhere | 04:20 |
| Guest46 | i know that if i just install xfce it will work not talking about drivers | 04:20 |
| Guest46 | but i try to do hard way | 04:20 |
| rrq | Guest46: did you check the Xorg log file? | 04:20 |
| Guest46 | yeah | 04:20 |
| Guest46 | i googled results | 04:21 |
| Guest46 | it is linked to nvidia | 04:21 |
| freem | nope, I don't have any template for graphical environment, someone was too lazy I guess | 04:21 |
| freem | but in short, outside of nvidia's drivers: xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-input-libinput, xserver-xorg-legacy, xinit | 04:22 |
| freem | and a wm ofc | 04:22 |
| freem | nvidia's drivers will likely be named xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-xxxxx | 04:23 |
| freem | hm... maybe that was the legacy package and it's own config that are missing? | 04:23 |
| Guest46 | not legacy driver | 04:24 |
| Guest46 | ill try again | 04:24 |
| freem | without systemd or elogind, under debian/devuan you must have xserver-xorg-legacy installed and configured to be able to start the Xorg server | 04:24 |
| Guest46 | maybe we can do it from start and i can finally have working devuan system | 04:24 |
| freem | sure | 04:24 |
| freem | I got time, can't sleep anyway | 04:24 |
| Guest46 | why legacy tho | 04:24 |
| Guest46 | i dont have legacy driver | 04:25 |
| freem | it's not about drivers | 04:25 |
| freem | it's about allowing Xorg to run as root | 04:25 |
| freem | you will also need to modify /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config to contain "needs_root_rights=yes" and "allowed_users=console" AFAIK | 04:25 |
| freem | I totally forgot about that subtlety | 04:26 |
| freem | (or however this is spelled) | 04:26 |
| Guest46 | yea now i know why it didnt worked then | 04:29 |
| Guest46 | i have no idea about that stuff | 04:29 |
| freem | now that I think about it, one could also try the nouveau drivers (reverse engineered drivers for nvidia harware) I heard they're less bad for less old GPUs than those I have (which are not worst using anymore, but... can still help when valgrinding graphical applications) | 04:29 |
| freem | why was it then? | 04:29 |
| freem | you can only know why it did not worked when you managed to repair it :) until this, you can only suspect things | 04:30 |
| freem | might be something else after all | 04:30 |
| Guest46 | maybe if i can get some manual for installing nvidia drivers | 04:32 |
| freem | I'm curious to know how much minimal you want your system to be though | 04:32 |
| Guest46 | it would be awesome | 04:32 |
| Guest46 | i just want system to work and have alsa xorg drivers window manager | 04:33 |
| Guest46 | after that its easy | 04:33 |
| freem | oh, reading https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/nvidia-alternative I see "Use 'update-glx --config nvidia' to select a version" and I now remember there was indeed that little utility to run to update Xorg.conf | 04:33 |
| freem | but my memories of nvidia usage are more than 10 years old, might have changed by now | 04:33 |
| Guest46 | yea | 04:34 |
| freem | if it changed though, it's likely in the "easier" direction, so less stuff to do | 04:35 |
| freem | I'd be surprised if modern nvidia drivers would not support KMS | 04:35 |
| freem | and if they do, then they can run wayland and avoid Xorg.conf annoying shit | 04:36 |
| freem | mandatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/963/ | 04:36 |
| Guest46 | hahahaha | 04:37 |
| Guest46 | i think ill just install mx linux fluxbox version and try to customize my system from there | 04:38 |
| Guest46 | im like 5 years experienced on linux | 04:38 |
| Guest46 | still cant do stuff | 04:38 |
| freem | well, years of experience does not say much | 04:38 |
| freem | I know people with 40 years of experience on windows, and still can't install some stuff by themselves :p | 04:38 |
| freem | well, if you need some help with your minimal config feel free to ping, I'll try to help | 04:41 |
| Guest46 | okay thank you very much for this talk | 04:42 |
| freem | although I usually sleep at this hour :) | 04:42 |
| Guest46 | when i finally manage to set up minimal system | 04:43 |
| Guest46 | ill come here and say i did it to u | 04:43 |
| freem | the quest for the minimal system is endless though | 04:43 |
| freem | it's still satisfying to be able to say you know by heart all the packages installed and why they are there :) | 04:44 |
| * freem should redo his install script to rely on drist or ninja instead of custom shell scripts | 04:46 | |
| soren_ | Hi golinux/rrq - ive forked the documentation as https://git.devuan.org/soren/documentation/src/branch/wip/excalibur - is this ok? | 05:32 |
| soren_ | anyhow ill be a few days to a week on getting my head around the documentation etc, so will probably have questions maybe then or sooner. Should i be on this IRC or the dev IRC? | 05:36 |
| Xenguy_ | I imagine either is fine | 05:36 |
| soren_ | ok thanks. | 05:37 |
| Xenguy_ | o/ | 05:37 |
| al1r4d | Guest46 -> try devuan+dwm+sysv.. that is my setup | 05:40 |
| al1r4d | ah, he's gone | 05:40 |
| golinux | Hi soren_ . . . nice to see you here! | 05:55 |
| soren_ | Hi golinux | 05:55 |
| golinux | Let's do a pm | 05:55 |
| gnarface | if that Guest46 person comes back tell them to stick around longer, and to report the actual GPU in question as identified by lspci | 06:00 |
| APic | rrq: Thanks! | 11:07 |
| APic | Though now it does not boot cleanly anymoar | 11:07 |
| APic | Because systemd-fsck somehow fails | 11:07 |
| APic | https://photos.app.goo.gl/chHDtqaRY6ZxQSDL7 | 11:07 |
| APic | Evil systemd ☹ | 11:07 |
| * APic can get a root-Shell, but i have no WLAN at the Moment | 11:10 | |
| * APic does not even have /sbin/ifconfig currently ☹ | 11:14 | |
| APic | „ip link“ does not even show a WLAN-Device | 11:15 |
| APic | Probably the Firmware did not even get loaded yet? | 11:15 |
| APic | enp3s0 exists though | 11:15 |
| APic | So i will plug the RJ45 in | 11:16 |
| APic | „dhclient enp3s0“ worked | 11:17 |
| APic | Hopefully i will manage converting it to Devuan so it will get named eth0 once again 😉 | 11:17 |
| APic | Ah | 11:18 |
| Wonka | .oO( ip link set enp3s0 name eth0 ) | 11:18 |
| APic | rrq: Now „apt-get -f install“ suddenly completes fine without Error | 11:18 |
| APic | „update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)“ | 11:18 |
| APic | „Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.142) ...“ | 11:18 |
| APic | Nice | 11:18 |
| amarsh04 | keep us update APic | 11:19 |
| * APic running „apt-get dist-upgrade“ now | 11:20 | |
| APic | https://paste.debian.net/1325988/ | 11:23 |
| APic | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/elogind_255.5-2_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/busctl', which is also in package systemd 256.4-2 | 11:23 |
| * APic goes jogging now | 11:23 | |
| APic | cul8r! | 11:23 |
| amarsh04 | bfn | 11:24 |
| rrq | APic: start with: apt-get purge --autoremove systemd | 12:19 |
| rrq | before dist-upgrade | 12:19 |
| freaxeh | hi | 12:20 |
| freaxeh | i'm having trouble with a fresh installation of devuan 5.0.1 | 12:21 |
| freaxeh | on both an nvme drive (samsung evo plus) and a sata ssd | 12:21 |
| freaxeh | i'm using the server iso you know the one with cd2 cd3 cd4 as an addition | 12:22 |
| rrq | trouble installing or rebooting? | 12:22 |
| freaxeh | for an offline installation, the issue is that it freezes upon startup at ""kvm_amd" disabled by bios | 12:22 |
| freaxeh | it installs perfectly fine it just wont boot upon startup | 12:23 |
| freaxeh | this is a ryzen 7 2700 system on a gigabyte motherboard | 12:23 |
| freaxeh | with a sas card if that makes any difference, the boot ssd is using the motherboard sata ports and before on the last attempt was using a nvme drive plugged into the motherboard | 12:24 |
| freaxeh | the sas card is just for additional hard drives | 12:24 |
| APic | rrq: Ok, ktnx | 12:24 |
| rrq | hmm where does kvm come in? that's for running VMs | 12:25 |
| freaxeh | dont know, i looked in the bios and couldn't find any option for turning it on | 12:25 |
| rrq | itd' called many things ... "virtualization" | 12:26 |
| * Xenguy_ notes that 'freax' was Linus' first choice of a named for what is now known as 'linux' ... | 12:26 | |
| Xenguy_ | s/named/name | 12:26 |
| rrq | but why does your boot need virtualization ? | 12:27 |
| freaxeh | it shouldn't its not a vm and the system isnt running any host os | 12:27 |
| freaxeh | its running purely on real hardware | 12:28 |
| rrq | you can run rescue mode with the installer and check for any "qemu" pacakge installed | 12:28 |
| rrq | did you run Install or expert? | 12:29 |
| freaxeh | install | 12:29 |
| rrq | ok... I have a memory there's a qemu-guest package sometimed getting installed | 12:30 |
| rrq | that might be one option | 12:30 |
| freaxeh | i'll reboot into rescue mode | 12:30 |
| APic | rrq: https://paste.debian.net/1325994/ | 12:31 |
| APic | Same „busctl“ Fail | 12:31 |
| rrq | hmm try dpkg --unpack --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/elogind_255.5-2_amd64.deb ... being at / | 12:32 |
| rrq | if that works, then use -f install | 12:33 |
| freaxeh | ok i've got a shell | 12:34 |
| rrq | random web page suggests blacklisting the kvm module ... souends heavy handed | 12:35 |
| freaxeh | i ran "apt list qemu" and it came back with nothing | 12:36 |
| freaxeh | am i supposed to get a login prompt if i dont install the desktop upon installation? | 12:37 |
| rrq | yes | 12:38 |
| rrq | mayb try blacklisting kvm ... "blacklist kvm" in /etc/modprobe.d/nokvm.conf | 12:38 |
| APic | rrq: Did that and ran „apt-get -f install“ | 12:38 |
| APic | That now hangs | 12:38 |
| rrq | great :( | 12:39 |
| APic | […] Setting up mount (2.40.2-1devuan1) ... | 12:39 |
| APic | Setting up elogind (255.5-2) ... | 12:39 |
| APic | invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel | 12:39 |
| APic | Somehow it destroyed my Terminal Settings | 12:39 |
| APic | Neither ^A to control my GNU Screen works | 12:39 |
| APic | Neither ^C to abort | 12:39 |
| APic | Just prints a literal ^A and ^C | 12:39 |
| APic | Ah | 12:39 |
| APic | Now this spawned: | 12:40 |
| APic | „You are in emergency mode. […]“ | 12:40 |
| * APic has a root-Shell once again | 12:40 | |
| APic | Maybe i can just reboot now? | 12:40 |
| APic | So the Runlevel-Stuffs will correctly init? | 12:40 |
| rrq | mmm is sysvinit-core installed? | 12:41 |
| rrq | and sysv-rc | 12:41 |
| APic | Seems not | 12:43 |
| APic | dpkg -l does not show them | 12:43 |
| rrq | so reboot is not a good idea | 12:43 |
| rrq | can you install busybox-static ? | 12:43 |
| rrq | (for setting up an emergency boot platform) | 12:44 |
| APic | Setting up busybox-static (1:1.36.1-0) ... | 12:44 |
| APic | Seting up elogind (255.05-2) ... | 12:44 |
| APic | invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel | 12:44 |
| rrq | ok... echo 2 > /run.runlevel | 12:45 |
| rrq | then try again | 12:45 |
| rrq | ok... echo 2 > /run/runlevel | 12:45 |
| APic | Still: invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel | 12:46 |
| rrq | hmm is there an /etc/inittab ? | 12:47 |
| APic | No | 12:47 |
| rrq | ok, try: echo 'id:2:initdefault' > /etc/inittab | 12:47 |
| rrq | and see if that's a help | 12:48 |
| APic | mompls | 12:48 |
| freaxeh | tried blackisting kvm in nokvm.conf and it didn't work | 12:48 |
| freaxeh | i'l try using the desktop iso | 12:48 |
| rrq | freaxeh: does bios have some selector for disk management h/w ? | 12:49 |
| freaxeh | it has csm and uefi | 12:49 |
| APic | rrq: Still same Error | 12:49 |
| APic | But maybe i can just install sysvinit-core and sysv-rc? | 12:49 |
| APic | I mean, busybox-static worked too before running into the same elogind Error | 12:50 |
| rrq | worth a try ... otherwise one can disarm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d which is a shell script | 12:50 |
| APic | Ok | 12:51 |
| rrq | adding an exit 0 as second line | 12:51 |
| rrq | not the best thing to do and should ne be left there | 12:51 |
| rrq | ne=not | 12:51 |
| APic | Nah, now it says: „Removing systemd (256.4-2) ... systemd is the active init system, please switch to another before removing systemd.„ | 12:51 |
| APic | Did that | 12:53 |
| APic | Now „apt-get -f install“ ran through | 12:53 |
| APic | Shall i try dist-upgrade now again? | 12:53 |
| rrq | dpkg -l sysvinit-core ... says "ii ..." ? | 12:54 |
| APic | No, „un“ | 12:55 |
| APic | So apt-get sysvinit-core sysv-rc first? | 12:55 |
| APic | +install | 12:55 |
| rrq | no it can't install while running systemd I think... one option is to reboot into a busybox-static shell to install with | 12:56 |
| APic | Ok | 12:56 |
| rrq | eg make a link /sbin/sh -> /usr/bin/busybox ... if that's where it is | 12:56 |
| rrq | let's see | 12:57 |
| rrq | dpkg -S bin/busybox | 12:57 |
| rrq | tells where busybox-static put its busybox | 12:57 |
| * APic already rebooted now, sorry | 12:57 | |
| APic | And it seems to hang | 12:57 |
| APic | So probably i will need a Live-USB-Stick… | 12:58 |
| rrq | ok... reboot with init=/bin/sh | 12:58 |
| rrq | (should also work I guess) | 12:58 |
| rrq | use "e" on the splash screen. then move down to the linux line and add "init=/bin/sh" | 12:59 |
| rrq | then use Ctrl-X to boot with that edit | 12:59 |
| * APic selected „recovery mode“ from the Grub Menu | 13:00 | |
| APic | Now some systemd-Jobs run | 13:00 |
| * APic needs to shower now | 13:00 | |
| * APic will come back soon | 13:00 | |
| rrq | try it may way later :) | 13:00 |
| rrq | freaxeh: did you select any desktop on install? | 13:01 |
| rrq | also, did you install virt-manager or some other virt ? | 13:04 |
| freaxeh | nope | 13:05 |
| rrq | in any case it shouldn't stop booting | 13:05 |
| freaxeh | yes i seem to be a magnet for things that are impossible | 13:05 |
| rrq | :) | 13:06 |
| freaxeh | only thing different from normal that i did (I"ve had successful installs of devuan in the past) is that i used the "server cd2 cd3 cd4" isos | 13:07 |
| rrq | right. shouldn't have made an inssue | 13:08 |
| rrq | bios doesn;t have any viertualization toggle? | 13:09 |
| freaxeh | none that i could see ill have another look | 13:11 |
| APic | Re | 13:12 |
| APic | rrq: Because we need to boot without systemd, right? | 13:12 |
| rrq | right | 13:12 |
| APic | rrq: Though i have a Crypto-LVM | 13:12 |
| APic | rrq: Will that get mounted Your Way? | 13:12 |
| rrq | if it's mounted in initrd then yes | 13:13 |
| rrq | or before initrd | 13:13 |
| APic | Ok | 13:13 |
| rrq | my way merely drops into /bin/sh instead of any init | 13:13 |
| APic | k | 13:14 |
| rrq | freaxeh: names like IOMMU and SVM or HYPER-V | 13:14 |
| rrq | or VT-x | 13:15 |
| APic | rrq: Ok, i have a Shell now, and my / got mounted correctly | 13:18 |
| APic | But it does not look like busybox | 13:18 |
| APic | Probably i need to run busybox now? | 13:19 |
| rrq | no it's ok using that shell | 13:19 |
| APic | Ok | 13:19 |
| rrq | install sysvinit-core and sysv-rc | 13:19 |
| APic | „Read-only file system“ | 13:20 |
| APic | Probabl „mount -oremount,rw /“? | 13:20 |
| APic | +y | 13:20 |
| APic | Or i could reboot with „rw“ on the Kernel-Cmdline | 13:21 |
| rrq | yes | 13:22 |
| rrq | remount | 13:22 |
| APic | k | 13:22 |
| APic | Now it cannot fetch some Packages because no Net | 13:22 |
| APic | But „dhclient enp3s0“ worked | 13:22 |
| rrq | good | 13:23 |
| APic | Darn | 13:23 |
| * APic ran a ping | 13:23 | |
| APic | And now i cannot Ctrl-C out of it | 13:23 |
| APic | -_- | 13:23 |
| rrq | C-A-Del :( | 13:23 |
| APic | k | 13:23 |
| APic | At least i can reboot with rw right from the Start then 😉 | 13:23 |
| rrq | next time run: openvt -c 2 /bin/bash | 13:24 |
| rrq | then Alt-F2 to use that | 13:24 |
| rrq | it should have job control as well | 13:25 |
| rrq | Alt-F1 is then your /bin/sh, and Alt-F2 would be your work shell | 13:25 |
| * APic likes zsh better 😉 | 13:25 | |
| APic | Yup | 13:25 |
| rrq | fair enough | 13:25 |
| APic | Yes, now i can Ctrl-C to abort the ping 😉 | 13:26 |
| APic | Installing sysvinit-core and sysv-rc worked now o/ | 13:27 |
| APic | Big Thanks! | 13:28 |
| APic | Now normal Reboot? | 13:28 |
| rrq | or maybe a dist-upgrade as well, while things work :) | 13:28 |
| rrq | remember to undo that invoke-rc.d patch (if any) | 13:29 |
| APic | Ok | 13:29 |
| APic | dist-upgrade ran fine, and i remove the „exit“ from /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d | 13:30 |
| * APic will reboot now | 13:30 | |
| rrq | great | 13:30 |
| APic | „WARNING: could not determine runlevel - doing soft reboot“ | 13:31 |
| APic | „(it's better to use shutdown instead of reboot from the command line)“ | 13:31 |
| APic | „shutdown: /run/initctl: No such file or directory“ | 13:31 |
| rrq | poweroff -f | 13:32 |
| APic | k | 13:32 |
| APic | Rebooted, now it says: | 13:32 |
| APic | INIT: version 3.09 booting | 13:33 |
| APic | INIT: No inittab.d directory found | 13:33 |
| APic | INIT: /etc/inittab[1]: missing process field | 13:33 |
| APic | Ah, because we simplified the inittab too earlier 😉 | 13:33 |
| APic | „Enter runlevel:“ | 13:33 |
| APic | Which one shall i try? | 13:33 |
| djph | 3 ? | 13:34 |
| rrq | asch ... you might need to reinstall sysvinit-core | 13:34 |
| APic | lol | 13:34 |
| * APic cannot even enter anything | 13:34 | |
| APic | When i press a single Key it just prints „Enter runlevel:“ again on a new Line | 13:34 |
| APic | Ok, so i will reboot into /bin/sh again | 13:35 |
| rrq | remove your /etc/inittab before reinstall | 13:35 |
| freaxeh | i found an option for iommu and disabled it | 13:36 |
| freaxeh | it stil didn't boot | 13:36 |
| freaxeh | but it did get rid of the kvm error message | 13:36 |
| rrq | ok.. still ahold up? | 13:37 |
| freaxeh | now its going on about failed to load regulatory.db | 13:37 |
| rrq | that's wifi stuff | 13:37 |
| freaxeh | yes the motherboard has a wifi adaptor which i apparently cannot disable from within the bios | 13:37 |
| freaxeh | i don't use it, i only use wired ethernet | 13:38 |
| APic | sysvinit: restarting... | 13:38 |
| rrq | should be able to ignore that regulatory.db then .. not hold up | 13:38 |
| APic | init: timeout opening/writing control channel /run/initctl | 13:39 |
| APic | Mh | 13:39 |
| APic | After some Repetitions it said „failed.“ | 13:39 |
| APic | And exited | 13:39 |
| rrq | is /run a tmpfs ? | 13:39 |
| APic | Yes | 13:39 |
| freaxeh | i'll pull the sas card out and see if that does anything just as a hunch | 13:40 |
| APic | At least i got the stock /etc/inittab now | 13:40 |
| APic | I guess i can try rebooting | 13:40 |
| rrq | yes | 13:40 |
| APic | It booted fine! | 13:41 |
| APic | rrq: Many, many epic Thanks! 😌 | 13:41 |
| rrq | welcome to sysvinit | 13:41 |
| APic | Hm | 13:41 |
| APic | But my X hangs now -_- | 13:41 |
| APic | But probably an unrelated Problem | 13:41 |
| rrq | there might stilll be some residue to get rid of | 13:41 |
| rrq | and X will require elogind or seatd | 13:42 |
| * APic tried booting into Recovery Mode | 13:43 | |
| APic | Now i see on the tty a crashing /usbin/sbin/plymouthd | 13:43 |
| APic | But i have a Shell again now after entering the root Password | 13:44 |
| freaxeh | no go, and kvm_amd error message is back | 13:44 |
| rrq | so your boot splash has badness | 13:44 |
| APic | s@/usbin/#/usr/# | 13:44 |
| rrq | freaxeh: does it hold up the boot ? | 13:44 |
| rrq | APic: that "Recovery Mode" is some residue to get rid of | 13:45 |
| freaxeh | yes it hangs but responds to alt ctrl delete | 13:45 |
| rrq | try once waiting a long time, say 10min,... | 13:45 |
| freaxeh | i did that earlier today | 13:45 |
| rrq | ok. hmm | 13:45 |
| freaxeh | but can do it again | 13:45 |
| rrq | would be good to know which boot step is locking up | 13:47 |
| rrq | perhaps a boot with word "single" on command line | 13:48 |
| freaxeh | wait period starts now | 13:49 |
| rrq | ... random web page says enable SVM/AMD-V as well as IOMMU | 13:56 |
| rrq | biab | 13:56 |
| freaxeh | i'll try updating the bios | 14:04 |
| freaxeh | updating the bios did nothing to reveal any further settings besides IOMMU which is enabled currently | 14:20 |
| freaxeh | looks like i'll be installing a systemd based system? | 14:20 |
| freaxeh | nah stuff that i'll just buy another motherboard | 14:21 |
| freaxeh | i'll see if it boots on another system | 14:23 |
| freaxeh | bbs | 14:33 |
| freaxeh | problem solved | 14:43 |
| freaxeh | the gigabyte motherboard is causing it not to boot for some reason | 14:43 |
| freaxeh | i just tried the ssd that i installed devuan to in two other systems and they both booted just fine to a login prompt | 14:43 |
| freaxeh | thanks for your help anyway | 14:43 |
| freaxeh | i'll just buy another motherboard | 14:43 |
| freaxeh | the motherboard thats causing the issue is a gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI | 14:47 |
| Xenguy_ | hardware is a MF sometimes | 14:57 |
| Xenguy_ | BTW the 'netinstall' ISO is my go-to, but YMMV | 14:58 |
| gnarface | freaxeh: uh, i have a older AMD motherboard, and due to a bios bug (despite having the latest available), i have to pass specific IOMMU parameters on the kernel command-line. maybe your gigabyte board has the same issue? | 14:58 |
| gnarface | these, specifically: ivrs_ioapic[9]=00:14.0 ivrs_ioapic[10]=00:00.2 | 14:59 |
| gnarface | (though those values are hardware specific and you might need new ones) | 14:59 |
| gnarface | i think they're literally just located at a non-default address, or something like that. you find the right address(es) and you can fix it. that's my theory, anyway. | 15:00 |
| gnarface | maybe unrelated but i had some other problem booting samsung ssds, but i have to believe that certainly wouldn't apply to your much newer board | 15:01 |
| freaxeh | thanks this ssd is a crucial brand | 15:01 |
| gnarface | nah, never had a problem with one of those | 15:02 |
| freaxeh | and the other nvme drive i tried was a samsung, brand new | 15:02 |
| freaxeh | both failed to boot | 15:02 |
| freaxeh | i'm thinking its the motherboard | 15:02 |
| freaxeh | trouble will be for me in finding another motherboard with two pcie x16 ports for my graphics card and sas card to live in harmony | 15:03 |
| freaxeh | to clarify, one drive is samsung nvme and the crucial is a sata | 15:04 |
| freaxeh | i'm not familiar with parsing paramaters on the kernel command line | 15:06 |
| freaxeh | how do i do that | 15:07 |
| gnarface | add them to /etc/default/grub then run update-grub | 15:08 |
| gnarface | comments and defaults in there should make it pretty clear | 15:09 |
| gnarface | you might want to also remove "quiet" so you can see what's actually going on | 15:09 |
| freaxeh | right so i boot into rescue mode and edit /etc/default/grub and remove quiet | 15:09 |
| freaxeh | and add that ivrs piece | 15:10 |
| gnarface | right, add it to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX variable in that file | 15:10 |
| gnarface | but if it doesn't work you might need to search online for the right numbers for your particular motherboard | 15:11 |
| gnarface | i have no reason to believe those will be correct, mine's not even a gigabyte board | 15:11 |
| gnarface | still, it has worked as-is for at least one other person with some other random board so i dunno | 15:11 |
| gnarface | that's just to fix the kvm issue though, to be clear | 15:15 |
| gnarface | not sure it'll help with anything else | 15:15 |
| freaxeh | update-grub says "ivrs_ioapic[9]=00:14.0: not found" | 15:21 |
| freaxeh | doh of course | 15:26 |
| freaxeh | ok update-grub completed sucessfully | 15:27 |
| freaxeh | rebooting | 15:27 |
| freaxeh | ok got a lot of stuff in the console, its stopping on one of the cd/dvd drives | 15:30 |
| freaxeh | let me unplug those... | 15:31 |
| freaxeh | its now stopping on "Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done." | 15:34 |
| freaxeh | i'll leave it for 10 mins see what happens | 15:34 |
| gnarface | hmm | 15:35 |
| freaxeh | still no go, thanks anyway | 15:42 |
| gnarface | sorry, not sure what it means that it's stopping there | 15:48 |
| gnarface | can't recall seeing that before, but someone else around here might know | 15:48 |
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