libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2024-08-09

al1r4dnice04:15
gryhi al1r4d04:24
al1r4dhi gry04:24
APicMoin10:23
APicFor Your Information: devuan_excalibur_6.0-202406250952_amd64_netinstall.iso does not boot via USB-Stick on my Lenovo Notebooks (ideapad 330S and V15 G4), while devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_netinstall.iso does10:24
APicMaybe some UEFI fsckup?10:24
rrqhow same are the usbsticks ?10:26
rrqwhat does "does not boot" mean? do you select it as boot device and it fails to start?10:28
rrqAPic: ^^10:30
APicExactly the same Hardware Stick10:30
APicI select it in the Boot Menu10:31
APicThen after few Seconds it returns to the Boot Menu10:31
APicSo yes, fails to start10:31
rrqdo you have UEFI shell?10:33
APicNo10:34
APicAnd i currently cannot do further Tests, because i now flashed debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso to that Stick10:34
rrqok. ta.10:34
APicBecause i cannot use the V15 G4's Keyboard with Daedalus10:34
APicKernel too old → no Keyboard Driver   ☹10:34
APicSorry10:35
rrqsince the two isos hold the very same boot equipment for UEFI it'll be difficult to address the issue without the same hardware10:46
APicic10:52
APicMaybe i can test that at some Point in the Futures10:52
APicNeed to get my new Laptop up and running first at the Moment10:52
APicCan i still convert the Debian to Devuan Excalibur easily later?10:52
APic(I still hate systemd even though it obviously got moar mature by now)10:53
rrqyes I think so .. it's essentially the same process. Though it's good to have a live ISO ready on the side, just in case10:54
APic👍10:55
rrqhmm I was wrong; the boot equipment is messed up on the excalibur iso10:57
rrqwe'll need someone to make an update of those10:58
APicGood that i accidentally spotted it then   😌11:00
brocashelmi just tried devuan_excalibur_6.0-202406250952_amd64_netinstall.iso (booted legacy mode from ventoy usb drive), and like apic, it doesn't load11:12
brocashelmusing a dell latitude laptop11:12
rrqyour issue is different. you want the iso to know ventoy11:37
rrqventoy is a filesystem with iso files11:37
rrqbut if your ventoy partition is named ventoy and of type exfat then it should have worked for you11:38
brocashelmi tried adding it back to the usb again, and i see the installation menu11:44
brocashelmit's an ext4 partition11:45
rrqyes. the preamble boot needs it to be an exfat11:48
brocashelmputting it on a standalone usb11:50
Guest61Hi, a question concerno12:06
Guest61Hi, a question concerning the installation of DEB-packages via apt-get: I had the effect that a library was complained missing (e.g. libgtk-3-0:amd64) but when checking in Synaptic gtk-3-0 is there. What is going on? This happened not just once.12:10
APicWhere do i find a current Tutorial to convert from Debian Testing to Devuan Testing?12:11
APicCan i still follow https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera ?12:11
fsmithredAPic, also check https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/bookworm-to-daedalus and take notes on what you find so you can help us write the guide for trixie to excalibur.13:03
CueXXIIIAPic: fsmithred the first step should be installing usrmerge, i think13:08
fsmithredI don't think that's necessary. Devuan won't un-merge.13:09
fsmithredI had a merged system when ascii was still in testing, before we fixed the installer not to merge.13:10
fsmithredand I'm not sure what installing usrmerge would do on an already merged system. Probably nothing.13:11
APicfsmithred, CueXXIII: ktnx!13:12
CueXXIIIah, i might have got my logic backwards, unless you have an old debian testing, it should already be merged13:13
APicEvil RL today, probably i will have Time tomorrow13:13
fsmithredcool, let us know how it goes.13:14
FlibberTGibbetfrom chimaera to daedelus, it it a straight swap in sources.list ?16:37
djphFlibberTGibbet: change the codename, do a dist-upgrade.  Should have you covered.16:40
FlibberTGibbetbrill, thanks djph !16:40
djphFlibberTGibbet: as always, backups, etc.16:42
FlibberTGibbetall the important stuff is syncthing'd from the laptop to my NAS, so no worries there, heh heh16:43
* FlibberTGibbet crosses fingers16:43
XenguyFlibberTGibbet, https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/upgrade-to-daedalus16:58
FlibberTGibbetthanks Xenguy.16:59
FlibberTGibbetnow to reboot and check for smoke, sparks... :)17:00
FlibberTGibbetso far so good. thanks all17:02
XenguyFlibberTGibbet, np17:10
XenguyAny issues with sound?17:11
golinuxLong time, no see FlibberTGibbet! Hope you are doing OK!!17:22
APicRe21:57
* APic followed https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/bookworm-to-daedalus now to try to upgrade my trixie to excalibur21:59
APicWorked quite fine until the Step: „apt-get -f install“21:59
APicI get: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?133962321:59
* APic cannot see what exactly fails in initramfs-tools22:00
* APic → Bed22:00
APiccu tomorrow!22:00
masonAPic: x-initrd.attach is a systemd thing.22:02

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