| systemdlete | So, on my testbox, I have 2 VMs running--one daedalus with no 3D and one chimaera with 3D. Neither have frozen desktops, even after about 2.5 days. I am fairly sure that enabling 3D again on the daedalus VM will end up freezing the desktop on that VM. | 13:24 |
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| systemdlete | I don't really NEED 3D for anything I am doing atm. But getting this sorted out would be kind of nice. | 13:25 |
| systemdlete | One caveat is that I am not really doing anything on the chimaera VM; I'm just running it with the desktop to see if that one freezes after some time also. | 13:26 |
| systemdlete | I'm going to comb the vbox forums to see if anyone else is having 3D freezing their desktops on daedalus/bookworm but not chimaera/bullseye | 13:27 |
| rrq | as a matter of gnit picking: the labels chimaera and daedalus or for repositores of packages and not for identifying particular system set ups. Presumably you have same-labelled set ups with mostly different package versions? | 13:29 |
| rrq | . *are* for repositories ... | 13:29 |
| ted-ious | What does with and without 3d mean? | 13:29 |
| ted-ious | GPU passthru? | 13:29 |
| systemdlete | It means 3D is enabled in the VM or not. | 13:30 |
| systemdlete | Not sure exactly how they do it. | 13:30 |
| ted-ious | Well that seems important. :) | 13:30 |
| systemdlete | I just haven't had the time to look into it. | 13:30 |
| systemdlete | I don't game or do any sophisticated graphics here, at least so far. I am thinking of something like freecad in the future, if they ever scare away all the bugs crawling through it | 13:31 |
| ted-ious | Well my point is that I don't think you can passthru to more than 1 guest at a time. | 13:32 |
| ted-ious | So maybe try disabling it on chimaera before you enable it on daedalus? | 13:32 |
| systemdlete | rrq: The distinction is probably more about differences in the version X11, login manager versions, etc. | 13:32 |
| systemdlete | It was freezing the daedalus VM even when chimaera wasn't running--I am doing this parallel test just to compare how they behave with 3D enabled or not. | 13:33 |
| systemdlete | ted-ious, I do get your point. I was not aware of that, although since I am not sure how vbox goes about it, it may be relevant or not. Again, I really need to do more investigation. | 13:36 |
| rrq | which software on the host? | 13:36 |
| systemdlete | daedalus | 13:37 |
| systemdlete | rrq: I could actually reboot the testbox into chimaera and repeat the experiment(s). | 13:39 |
| rrq | ok; intuitively I would think that would favour the daedalus VM over the chimaera VM, but I also know almost nothing about graohics | 13:39 |
| rrq | (even pelling it is a problem for me :) | 13:39 |
| rrq | s | 13:39 |
| systemdlete | atm, I am doing some testing in the daedalus VM, so it might be a day or two | 13:39 |
| systemdlete | rrq: YOu don't have to tell me about TyRing wrong | 13:40 |
| systemdlete | tpying | 13:40 |
| systemdlete | tyPing | 13:40 |
| systemdlete | anyway | 13:40 |
| rrq | lol | 13:40 |
| systemdlete | yeah | 13:40 |
| systemdlete | just being a cut-up here... | 13:40 |
| rrq | anyhow, I can't help with the issue; I don't use vbo and know nothing about graphics (I did play with passthrough on qemu some days last year bit got bored) ... so, can only wish you luck at isolating whatever it is | 13:47 |
| rrq | x | 13:47 |
| systemdlete | nw | 13:48 |
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