libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2024-05-20

xrogaanuser24037: that shouldn't be uninstalled. Make sure xserver-xorg-input-all is installed. Or task-desktop.03:15
rustyaxeis there a proper way to disable framebuffer console, etc? My bios has 80x25 text console redirection over the serial port - it'd be good to be able to use that04:01
gnarfacerustyaxe: yea i think the way to do it is you add "nomodeset" to $GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub04:04
gnarfacenot that that's a requirement for using the serial console... they're not mutually exclusive04:05
rrqmight need "console=ttyS0,9600" (or such) as boot parameter as well04:06
gnarfaceyes, i think you also need to uncomment one of these in /etc/inittab: #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt10004:06
gnarface#T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 9600 vt10004:06
gnarface9600 might be a little slow for modern hardware, not sure what you're working with04:07
rustyaxeya ive got serial console, but the switch to graphics mode disables redirection04:07
rustyaxenomodeset might be what i need04:07
rustyaxebet it is, will reboot shortly and confirm04:07
gnarfacegood luck04:07
rustyaxegotta avoid the switch to graphics mode at least until we're fully booted (there's no gfx hardware besides an emulated vga framebuffer in corebios)04:08
brocashelmis there a cli equivalent to what psensor displays for max and min cpu temp readings?04:40
brocashelmwatch -n 1 sensors will just show what would be considered high and critical, but my processors never get that bad04:41
gnarfacemaybe some files in /sys you can read04:43
gnarfacepaths would be hardware specific04:43
gnarfacewell, driver specific anyway04:43
onefangYou want to see a graph of sensor readings, complete with max / min / other interesting features?  I use Collected Graph for that.04:47
brocashelmno, just max and min info for cpu04:47
brocashelmsince i launched the process04:47
brocashelmpsensor does that, but no other tool04:48
onefangCollects all manner af stats, gives you a web page with interactive graphs.04:48
gnarfaceoh, i get it, you want graphs, not thermal thresholds04:51
gnarfaceyea, you'll need to run something for that04:51
gnarfacesomething that tracks04:51
brocashelmi do not want graphs!04:51
brocashelmi want just the variables04:51
brocashelmlm-sensors/sensors does not give me that04:52
onefangYou want a cli tool to track changes to min / max?04:52
brocashelmyes04:52
gnarfacewell it's so easy to generate the graphs once you've done the work to track that data you will probably actually have trouble finding something that does it that doesn't also graph04:52
onefangCollectd uses rrd underneath, and likely there is cli tools for extracting such stats like min and max over aset period..04:53
brocashelmclosest thing i'm seeing is tmon, but it's not packaged for debian and it still uses a graph04:54
brocashelmhttps://github.com/gmagno/tmon04:55
onefangWhat I'm saying is just ignore the graph bit, and use something like collectd to collect the data, then look at the various rrd tools for sorting the data to your tastes.  rrd is popular for this sort of thing.04:56
brocashelmeven with nvtop, i append --no-plot as i don't care for that stuff (just want to know if my gpu is ok)04:56
gnarfacei would be tempted to just pipe watch sensors to a perl script05:08
gnarfacei usually use munin, which also uses rrd, but i think my use case for that is based on longer time intervals than you're intending to use05:09
gnarfacebut you could probably even do this in bash05:11
onefangI did it in Lua for conky as my desktop background.05:12
gnarfacehmm, yea you could definitely do it in bash it's just the number and type comparisons get a bit annoying05:12
onefangMy computer has 25 temperature sensors, not including the "one per core, yes including the hypercores"  Since btop was introduced to me here the other day I noticed it can show different temperatures per core / hypercore.  I'm seeing up to 11 C differences.  shrugs05:18
* golinux muses that onefang's is always bigger . . . LOL!05:20
onefanglol05:21
brocashelmtried btop once... it has too much stuff going on05:41
brocashelmhtop and nvtop (can also read amd and most intel gpus) are good enough in terms of ui05:41
onefangThat's why I like btop as my "show me all the stuff" tool.  B-)05:41
brocashelmbut yeah, maybe if i could use cat /sys/whatever-the-max-and-min-cpu-temps, that could work05:41
ted-iousbrocashelm: You know you can turn off most of the stuff right? :)05:42
brocashelmyup, but htop is good enough05:42
brocashelmjust need a way to check my min and max temps per cpu core as time goes on, just so i can see how the processors are doing05:43
brocashelmpsensor provides that, but i don't like using a gui for process management05:43
brocashelmbesides, it's also a bit unmaintained as it will only pick up nvidia drivers for graphics05:44
onefangI can't help with nVidia drivers.  In this case, yours is bigger than mine, your collection of nVidia stuff you have to care about.05:47
al1r4dokay, my pipewire broke after i did upgrade05:48
al1r4d:/05:48
brocashelmi don't use any nvidia gpus. just amd05:51

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