| Wizzup | sicelo: great @ upower | 00:03 |
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| arno11 | freemangordon: @mafw, sorry it is not really relevant to test on my device (mafw blocked, no OMP, no media compatible with) | 08:34 |
| freemangordon | well, then all of your tests are more or less irrelevant | 09:41 |
| freemangordon | because what we do is supposed to make vanilla usable :) | 09:42 |
| arno11 | hmm...good to know | 10:09 |
| freemangordon | arno11: the point is that if you test with half of the stuff disabled and say 'it is ok', but we get reports from other users that use vanilla images, we don't why the difference - is it because yours differ from vanilla or because the other user did something stupid | 11:27 |
| crab | should i assume that the daedalus images (for n900) are too new? | 11:41 |
| crab | i have the gui up and it looks reasonable but it seems unresponsive. | 11:42 |
| crab | (20250331) | 11:42 |
| sicelo | crab: two things | 12:03 |
| crab | sicelo: dont worry, i re-read what freemangordon told me yesterday and im trying the latest chimaera | 12:04 |
| sicelo | 1. mount the card somewhere, and modify the swap entry by removing /dev/mmcblk... and using /swap (or is it /swap-file? ... the correct | 12:06 |
| sicelo | ah, ok | 12:06 |
| crab | although even now its being a bit weird. | 12:06 |
| crab | i saw the famous nokia wallpaper, that was then replaced by the notice about growing the filesystem / ssh | 12:07 |
| crab | but now the screens gone black and i cant get the display back to do anything | 12:07 |
| sicelo | actually, what i said above is still valid even for chimaera | 12:18 |
| sicelo | then (2) the very first boot is excrutiating, yes. you need to be really patient, and not interact with the UI in any way for quite some time. 10 minutes sounds fine :p | 12:19 |
| sicelo | and of course, the throughput of your SD card also plays a major role. use the best card you have access to | 12:19 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: well, i still don't know how i was supposed to be aware of your work on vanilla but anyway | 12:27 |
| arno11 | crab: unfortunately all n900 img's are actually broken | 12:28 |
| arno11 | you can tweak few of them to get it responsive but none of them are perfect | 12:29 |
| arno11 | i recommand you the last daedalus you mentioned and switch to sdcard swap before the first boot | 12:30 |
| arno11 | and as sicelo said: the most important thing is the sd card you use | 12:31 |
| arno11 | if too slow, no way to get something usable | 12:31 |
| crab | its actually behaving now. | 12:33 |
| crab | although i would like to know how to ensure the mac address stays the same | 12:33 |
| arno11 | sorry but you run chimaera or daedalus ? | 12:34 |
| crab | chimaera | 12:34 |
| crab | it may stay the same but it is different from what it was when i reinstalled it. | 12:34 |
| sicelo | arno11: what fmg means (by 'vanilla') is ... if you're doing the kind of tests that influence implementation/architecture decisions, then you need to be running 'vanilla,' i.e. unmodified Leste | 12:34 |
| crab | we will see. | 12:34 |
| arno11 | sicelo: thx for clarifications | 12:35 |
| Wizzup | sorry guys for not taking care of the n900 swap thing yet | 12:37 |
| Wizzup | I'm getting to it, I promise :) | 12:37 |
| arno11 | crab: chimaera is broken actually (long to explain) | 12:38 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: :) | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | I've been dealing with a bunch of bureacracy, but it's almost over :) | 12:38 |
| arno11 | argh...bureaucracy... | 12:39 |
| arno11 | good luck man | 12:40 |
| Wizzup | :D | 12:40 |
| sicelo | crab: MAC address stuff is a bit broken for now. if you're in the mood to try unmerged work, you can have a look at https://github.com/maemo-leste/wl1251-cal/pull/1 | 12:43 |
| crab | sicelo: thanks | 12:44 |
| crab | i think ill quit while im ahead | 12:44 |
| crab | chimaera seems a bit glitchy for sure, but its a lot better when you actually sort the clock out. | 12:44 |
| crab | i think it may be suitable for my uses | 12:44 |
| Wizzup | https://git.maemo.org/leste/wl1251-cal/pulls/1 | 12:45 |
| sicelo | heh, actually that MR is working fine. i have used it for weeks | 12:45 |
| Wizzup | maybe we just merge it? | 12:45 |
| sicelo | i think so, yes | 12:47 |
| sicelo | it does need https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/56 to be done correctly as well | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | https://git.maemo.org/leste/leste-config/pulls/56 | 12:49 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: can you comment on the undisplace/maint stuff there | 12:49 |
| sicelo | you were going to redo this MR :p | 12:52 |
| Wizzup | ah | 12:53 |
| Wizzup | lol :) | 12:53 |
| sicelo | the aim is to remove the mac stuff from leste-config. any efficient/correct way to achieve it is acceptable to me | 12:56 |
| Wizzup | all you need to do is remove the file and run gen-displace | 12:58 |
| Wizzup | leste-config will automatically remove previously displaced files afaik | 12:58 |
| sicelo | let me try get that done tonight (left the N900 at home) | 13:00 |
| crab | well chimaera seems pretty good to me. | 13:04 |
| Wizzup | daedalus will be better :) | 13:04 |
| crab | ive got ipv6 working, nfs mounting my home drive, | 13:05 |
| crab | the swap is using the partition on my mmc which is pretty handy imho | 13:05 |
| crab | no real complaints apart from the weird messages about multiple configured stuff in the sources | 13:05 |
| crab | (and i dont even mind that, because when i attempted the dist-upgrade i saw those too, and blamed it on the dist-upgrade!) | 13:06 |
| crab | yeah perhaps daedalus would have been fine. maybe i was just too impatient with the first boot. | 13:06 |
| Wizzup | yeah, those messages will remain for a bit | 13:08 |
| Wizzup | no, daedalus boot is broken atm until I fix swap | 13:08 |
| Wizzup | swap config more specifically | 13:08 |
| ashley | who's maintaining the Leste wiki software? I'm mostly just asking because I pushed a few exciting (well, IMO ;) patches to the Maemo skin (which totally should be the default skin on the Leste wiki as well!), and also MediaWiki 1.36 hasn't been supported in a while IIRC; 1.39 is the legacy LTS version and 1.43 is the current LTS version | 13:27 |
| Wizzup | I guess I do | 13:27 |
| Wizzup | happy to find additional maintainers though | 13:27 |
| Wizzup | I can look into upgrading it | 13:28 |
| Wizzup | ashley: if it's not too much trouble can you file an issue here? https://git.maemo.org/leste/bugtracker/issues | 13:28 |
| ashley | awesome :D should be a fairly straightforward process; will do, just gimme a few minutes :) | 13:28 |
| ashley | (re:the skin -- since the Leste wiki had the top navigation menu customized, as the original was hardcoded, I made that way more customizable without having to hack the skin: https://git.legoktm.com/ashley/mediawiki-skins-Maemo/commit/d676fc60d1c31015e98f72315cfca13dc342a804 ; fairly neat stuff, and didn't take too many minutes because I could just lift off code I had previously written for a different skin :P) | 13:29 |
| Wizzup | cool | 13:33 |
| Wizzup | we could also host the code on git.maemo.org | 13:33 |
| Wizzup | but it looks like you have a place for it | 13:33 |
| sicelo | nice. is there a way for us to preview the skin? | 13:35 |
| ashley | well, the old/modified version *is* live on the Leste wiki ;) https://leste.maemo.org/Main_Page?useskin=maemo ; re:hosting, that'd actually be neat, that server won't be around too long so I gotta migrate my things somewhere, likely gerrit.wikimedia.org for most of them (but I'm not 100% confident on the licensing of the original Maemo skin, basically the CSS and non-MediaWiki images and such; my code is GPL'd or whatever other free license one may wish | 13:38 |
| ashley | to use) | 13:38 |
| sicelo | ah yes that skin looks nice | 13:43 |
| ashley | https://git.maemo.org/leste/bugtracker/issues/772 now filed, finally :P took me long enough | 13:54 |
| Wizzup | ty :) | 13:54 |
| ashley | the pleasure's all mine, I love nothing more than seeing active, maintained, up-to-date wikis using MediaWiki ;) | 13:55 |
| Wizzup | :D | 14:13 |
| uvos__ | can i haz push access again to the parts i worked on alot in the past? i know i not terribly active atm, but i do not intend this to be a permanent state of affairs | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: yes of course | 14:59 |
| Wizzup | can you give a list? I can also do it from memory :) | 14:59 |
| uvos__ | i can only really do it from memory too, my memory is: mce, mce's related controlpannel applets (like the display-applet), sphone, droid4-linux, salutem, mapphone bootloader related things (like clownboot/ kexec modules/ kexecboot config files) | 15:02 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: here is the actual list: uvos.xyz/list.png | 15:08 |
| uvos__ | https://uvos.xyz/list.png | 15:09 |
| Wizzup | will do it momentarily | 15:10 |
| uvos__ | should be obvious who i am on the gitea instance... | 15:11 |
| Wizzup | yup :) | 15:19 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: almost done (halfway) | 15:29 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: done | 15:32 |
| freemangordon | arno11: it was not meant to be personal, sorry if you felt it like that. Re vanilla - by vanilla I mean "image one can download". And while those are broken currently, that will be hopefully fixed soon. So I appreciate your feedback on testing various n900 parts, however, I think we must try to make everything functional (be it mafw, tracker, whatever) on n900, if we say "we support n900" | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | the other option is to drop n900 support, but I don;t think anyone wants that | 15:50 |
| arno11 | just misunderstanding, sorry | 15:58 |
| Wizzup | :) | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/libcgroup/libcgroup/issues/478 | 16:08 |
| Wizzup | they are fast at least :) | 16:08 |
| sicelo | we're definitely not at the point where N900 should be dropped. i have a low-quality SD card, but Leste runs acceptably :-) | 16:29 |
| arno11 | :) | 16:39 |
| n900 | sicelo: thank goodness for trhat. | 17:17 |
| sicelo | uvos__: talking about sphone, https://git.maemo.org/leste/sphone/pulls/10 | 17:35 |
| kiva | sicelo, if fixing keyboard regressions in daedalus with D4, add also F11 somewhere (it is altG+esc with Pinephone Keyboard), it is Firefox fullscreen button and it would make Firefox-esr much bettter for D4. | 21:27 |
| sicelo | i don't think i'll have time for it ... already got my hands full with a lot of stuff. i can suggest opening an issue on git.maemo.org though | 21:29 |
| kiva97 | I dont get it...git.maemo.org ways me to some Forgejo page.. | 21:33 |
| sicelo | yes, it is a forgejo instance :-) | 21:34 |
| sicelo | issues can be opened here, https://git.maemo.org/leste/bugtracker/issues | 21:34 |
| kiva97 | I dont have user there and seems there is no new user button. If somebody is locked in, can copy that what I wrote little upper with better english :) | 21:39 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: uvos__: i don't think we still need this, https://git.maemo.org/leste/hildon-desktop-rotation-support ... seems like something that should go to https://git.maemo.org/leste-deprecated | 21:40 |
| sicelo | kiva97: you can login with your Github credentials iirc | 21:40 |
| kiva97 | I don use Github, it is owned by M$. | 21:41 |
| sicelo | alright | 21:42 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: i tried to push some stuff to picodrive but i get permission denied for writing. could you give me back perms for picodrive, pcsx, drnoksnes and pierogi please ? | 21:59 |
| Wizzup | arno11: of course | 22:28 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: agreed, we can move it to leste-deprecated? | 22:28 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: cool | 22:38 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: yes, sounds correct to me. | 22:46 |
| Wizzup | arno11: I will do it soon | 23:02 |
| arno11 | ok ty | 23:16 |
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