libera/#maemo-leste/ Sunday, 2025-03-30

Smatkovii cannot just build images for n9 and n950, right? i read here that some work needs to be done.11:03
Smatkoviif i try to build an image i get error in: debootstrap and that some tar failed.11:03
Smatkovii saw some option -O with 64-bit. i deleted that, because to my knowledge n9 and n950 are arm devices11:05
halftuxWizzup: I got a notification email 23:20 yesterday from noreply@maemo.org11:11
mkfhello. can i make a wiki page for my tablet?11:12
Wizzuphalftux: cool11:18
Wizzupmkf: of course11:18
WizzupSmatkovi, when you get back, we can work on building images, but we don't know what state the kernel support is in11:18
mkfwould a downstream kernel get accepted?11:19
mkffor lg v2011:19
Wizzupwe prefer do to mainline only, but it depends, we can figure something out, maybe with a separate repo or something11:21
Wizzupbtw, I looked up the device, isn't the msm8996 supported well on mainline?11:22
Wizzuphm https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/LG_V20_(lg-us996)11:23
mkfdevice has bunch of gimmicks11:24
mkfit'd be nice if there was someone else that could test it btw, i have h990ds which has different panel timing than other models11:25
mkfif anyone here has the other varients let me know11:26
mkfi also have a samsung s4 3g, which is less popular11:27
freemangordonsicelo: do you use connui-cell from experimental?11:54
freemangordonWizzup: "Cannot verify your SSH key: key length is not enough: got 2048, needs 3071"12:06
freemangordonWizzup: going to push connui-cell (from experimental) to daedalus, expect breakages :)12:48
mkffreemangordon: these worked on my device, just to update wik tables for your twister, do these work on yours?13:36
freemangordonsorry, please elaborate, I am missing the context13:38
freemangordonhave to run, ttyl13:40
mkfnp. my network is a bit unstable.13:40
Wizzupfreemangordon: cool13:42
mkfbluetooth, screen rotation, speaker (my speaker is a bit weak compared to android tho, might be amplifiers, it also doesn't stop when a headphone is connected)13:43
mkf^ if those work, i'm going to add them into twister wiki page13:43
Wizzupfreemangordon: re: 2k, we can add it, I think forgejo/gitea wants 3k or more normally13:45
Wizzupfreemangordon: can you confirm that ofono in daedalus is the right version14:00
WizzupI've had some issues recently, calls not coming in, sms not sent/received in realtime, and for example connecting to the net doesn't do anything until I issue a mdbus call (just some GetProperties) and suddenly status menu shows signal14:02
mkfis there a reason wiki page for n900 uses code so much?14:10
mkf<code></code> instead of <source> or <pre>14:10
Wizzupconnui cellular seems to work, although atm dns does not seem to work, but maybe mtu/operator or maybe icd14:16
mkfif there is no objection i'll clean up some of <code>s in n900 wiki page14:17
mkfadded my device to wiki :)14:19
sicelofreemangordon: re - connui: what is the context? otherwise I'm currently using 'stock'14:29
sicelomkf: please feel free regarding wiki.14:31
mkfshould i remove parts that dont apply to my device?14:35
mkfi.e: calls and sms14:36
mkfin infobox14:36
mkfor should i put No or N/A in them14:36
WizzupI think N/A is best14:37
mkfhttps://leste.maemo.org/A23-Q8H-v1.514:50
mkfyippe14:50
Wizzupnice14:56
Wizzupit might make sense how one can get the device to work - required kernel branch, base image, etc14:57
arno11mkf: for headphone/speaker troubles, could be something wrong in ucm215:03
arno11nice @wiki btw15:04
sicelomkf: regarding headphones, you probably just need to come up with the correct UCM profile. PA handles the switching15:06
mkfcool.15:52
mkfWizzup: as for that, i need some of your help regarding making an image15:53
Wizzupideally we can have a single sunxi image15:57
Wizzupat least kernel/dts wise15:57
Wizzupthe userspace udev files etc might be a different story, like with the omap devices15:57
mkffor kernel i agree. for dts i'm not sure.15:58
mkfi have a copy of my dts patches and kernel sources15:58
Wizzupthe dtses live in the kernel repo15:58
mkfkernel patches are mostly same with fmg, without wifi patch, that didnt made any difference for me.15:59
mkfi can find those patches if needed.15:59
WizzupI think we would need that, and then a sunxi image, since we I guess can't use the debian stock16:00
mkfvery well. i'm not around my linux machine atm, but i'll be able to make builds in a week16:02
mkfas for patches:16:02
WizzupI think this is best communicated on forgejo (at least a record of the chat), shall I make an account for you16:02
Wizzup?16:02
mkfsure. that'd be awesome!16:03
Wizzupsee dm16:04
freemangordonWizzup: lemme check, as I have that issue ATM16:29
freemangordonmight be kernel issue though16:29
Wizzupfreemangordon: which particular issue16:30
Wizzupdns?16:30
freemangordonno, cannot issue call16:31
freemangordonalso, no incoming call/sms16:32
freemangordonhmm, could it be VCM issue?16:32
WizzupI can issue calls16:33
Wizzupbut for example sms remain stuck until I make an outbound call or try to set up data16:33
freemangordonthat's a kernel issue, but it should be solved16:35
freemangordonWizzup: https://git.maemo.org/leste-upstream-forks/droid4-linux/commit/c9acd3b9c606274f5cc421b199cff2f58eb60b1c16:36
freemangordondo we have that?16:36
freemangordonugh16:37
freemangordonthis is not released it seems :)16:38
Wizzupha :)16:38
Wizzuphmm16:38
freemangordonin chimaera-devel, the version is 6.6.58.316:38
Wizzupit is in maemo-6.6.y I think16:38
Wizzupisn't that the exact commit?16:38
freemangordonlinux-image-omap                                    6.6.58.2-1+4m716:39
freemangordonthis is on daedalus16:39
Wizzuphttps://git.maemo.org/leste-upstream-forks/droid4-linux/src/branch/maemo/daedalus/debian/changelog16:39
Wizzuplol16:39
Wizzupthat's dumb16:39
Wizzupok16:39
freemangordonmhm16:39
Wizzuplet me fix that16:39
freemangordonplease do16:39
freemangordonthat explains it :)16:40
Wizzupyes!16:40
freemangordonsicelo: connui-cell in experimental has support fom pin change etc16:40
freemangordonI remember we discussed that back then and I have a fuxxy memory that you said you will install it along with ofono 2.x16:41
freemangordon*fuzzy16:41
siceloWizzup: i also wondered if the patches around bq2415x_charger and bq27xxx_battery are actually in the kernel we have in daedalus (based on arno's report re:charging LED)16:41
sicelofreemangordon: yes i did have that connui-cell in chimaera. :-)16:42
sicelobut for daedalus, i flashed new image16:42
freemangordonwhich version?16:42
freemangordonjust to be sure16:42
siceloso i no longer have the in-progress connui-cell16:42
freemangordonah, ok16:43
Wizzupif you upgrade now you will have it16:43
freemangordonwell, it is default in daedalus since this morning :)16:43
freemangordonright16:43
sicelooh cool. haven't upgraded yet. will do16:43
freemangordonsicelo: so, were there any obvious issues with it?16:44
sicelono, worked fine for me16:44
freemangordonmkf: BTW, this packages is the one for showing proper modem icons and IIRC I already implemented you request (do not show icon if no modem) back then16:45
sicelonice i see there's some roaming indication?16:47
siceloaccording to commits16:47
freemangordonwell, not tested16:47
freemangordonI am traveling to Greece in 2 weeks, will test then :)16:48
WizzupI can test roaming right now16:48
WizzupI have NL, BG and HR phone/sim16:48
freemangordoncool16:48
freemangordonplease do16:48
Wizzupdroid4, bionic, n900 respectively :)16:48
freemangordonI have no idea if I did it right16:48
Wizzupshould I see some additional arrow or so? that is what I recall from fremantle16:49
freemangordonactually I was thinking if I can write some unit testing, but given how many subsystems are involved I gave up16:49
freemangordonno16:49
siceloi also have a sim for 655/10, and will be using it on 653/1016:49
freemangordonthis is still not implemented16:49
siceloWizzup: afaik there was no indication/reporting at all for roaming in Fremantle16:49
freemangordonright16:50
freemangordonand there is a request for us to implement it16:50
freemangordonI might do while in abroad16:50
Wizzupok16:50
Wizzupright now I already checked to allow roaming16:50
freemangordonWizzup: however, you should receive a notification the first time you connect to data, while roaming16:50
WizzupI can uncheck it?16:50
freemangordonin theory :D16:51
freemangordonas I said, I did my best to implement it without being able to test16:51
Wizzupmhm16:51
freemangordonBut still, I doubt it will work properly from the start16:51
freemangordonalso, call forwarding should work16:52
freemangordonalso PIN enable/change16:52
WizzupI have never used call forwarding, that'll be fun16:52
freemangordonnever tried with PUK though16:52
freemangordonso be careful :)16:52
Wizzupha16:52
WizzupI have like ... 20-30 throwaway sims from travel over the years and old ebay phones16:53
Wizzupplenty to test with16:53
freemangordonplease test then (for PUK)16:53
freemangordonyou can even fix issues if there are any16:53
Wizzupthat will have to wait a week or so :)16:54
freemangordonok, no hurry16:54
freemangordonare you here?16:54
Wizzupyes16:54
freemangordoncool, we may meet in the next days16:54
Wizzupyup :)16:54
freemangordonregarding roaming notification - didn't we agree to put R mixed with RSSI bars?16:56
WizzupI think so, something like this16:56
freemangordonok, yeah, will try to implement it16:58
Wizzupmeanwhile I will see if I can debug tinymail with my new mail server :D16:58
freemangordonok16:58
freemangordonWizzup: re tracker: I have absolutely no issues whatsoever on both d4 and VM17:42
Wizzupthose are both dist-upgraded?17:44
Wizzupthe problem I am seeing is that the files seem to be indexed, but they do not show in mafw/omp17:44
freemangordonyes, both are dist-upgraded17:45
Wizzupok17:46
freemangordonif you have .nomedia you shall remove it though17:46
Wizzuppretty sure I don't, but I will check17:46
Wizzuplike I said, tracker indexed the files17:46
freemangordonor similar17:46
freemangordonI see17:46
Wizzup(going to confirm now)17:46
Wizzuplooks like I am hitting this https://github.com/stalwartlabs/mail-server/blob/9477f266a2749f625af74e3d4842dc8eb1f6d3f5/crates/imap/src/op/subscribe.rs#L8317:48
Wizzup(re: tinymail)17:48
mkffreemangordon: have you read my messages re: twister?18:04
freemangordonyes, and asked you to elaborate as I miss the context18:06
Wizzupfreemangordon: I think what is indexed is not classified as music18:19
Wizzup$ tracker3 search 'mp3' | grep 'file:///' | grep 'mp3' -c18:20
Wizzup522318:20
Wizzup$ tracker3 search --music 'mp3' | grep 'file:///' | grep 'mp3' -c18:20
Wizzup018:20
freemangordonweird18:21
freemangordondid you try to reset the database?18:22
Wizzuplet me try to see what it thinks it is18:22
Wizzupok, let me try a reset18:22
freemangordontry with tracker3 info18:23
Wizzupyeah nothing useful18:26
freemangordonhmm, thats really strange18:26
Wizzupalready did a reset18:26
Wizzuptrying to get it to index things :)18:26
WizzupI don't think tracker miner fs is really doing any indexing, although it says it is18:28
freemangordonit is not fs, but extract that should do18:28
Wizzupright, but extract only runs once it has an idea of what to do18:28
freemangordonstart omp, you should receive notifications on what happens18:29
Wizzuptracker-miner-fs-3 is running but nothing else from tracker18:29
freemangordoniirc extract does not run all the time18:29
freemangordonare you sure directory where your files live is a subject to tracker indexing?18:30
Wizzupyes18:30
Wizzup'tracker3 index' shows them18:30
Wizzupas recursive, too18:30
freemangordontry to get some logs then18:30
Wizzupworking on it18:31
Wizzuptracker3 daemon -f just says it's 'initialising'18:31
freemangordonhmm18:31
Wizzuplet me restart omp18:32
freemangordonthat should make no difference18:32
freemangordonas tracker3 uses dbus to access db18:32
freemangordonbut yeah18:32
freemangordonok, new kernel installed, lets see if I can make a call :)18:33
WizzupI'm removing .cache/tracker* to see if that helps18:33
freemangordonhttps://gitlab.com/ananicy-cpp/ananicy-cpp/-/merge_requests18:34
freemangordonI don;t think we shall rely on that project18:35
freemangordonok, calls seem to work with the correct kernel18:36
freemangordonWizzup: so, considering that MRs got more or less ignored and given that it is not in debian , do you still think we shall use ananasy for such a critical daemon?18:38
Wizzupmy gf will happy, she called me 5 times today and I didn't hear it apparently :D18:38
Wizzupwill be*18:38
mkffreemangordon: do bt, rotation and speaker work for you?18:38
freemangordonyes18:38
Wizzupfreemangordon: up to you, I think if it works well then why not18:38
mkfif so i'm going to add them to twister entry18:38
Wizzupif we have a better alternative, then we can do that too18:38
mkfok i'll add them to twister entry then.18:39
freemangordonno idea what twister is18:39
Wizzupit's a tablet18:39
WizzupI think I made that entry18:39
freemangordonsorry, I didn't follow the chat closely for the last few days18:39
freemangordonok18:39
WizzupI don't think I mentioned twister since 2019 tbh :D18:39
mkftwisterx tablet :P18:39
mkfwhatever that a33 of yours was called.18:40
freemangordonit is just q818:40
Wizzupfreemangordon: ok, I think I set tracker3 to a long initial sleep, so my direct tests didn't work18:40
Wizzupdid a reset and lowered the initial sleep18:40
Wizzupwill report back18:40
freemangordonok18:40
freemangordonWizzup: for sure we have a better alternative re cgroups18:40
freemangordonthats maintained18:40
Wizzupmkf: yeah the a33 is twister, I have it at home but didn't use it a while, I think freemangordon's tablet is something else18:40
mkfoh.18:41
Wizzupfreemangordon: yeah it's still not seen as music somehow, to be continued18:41
freemangordoncgrulesengd18:42
mkfso who got that twister thingi?18:42
freemangordonI can easily make nicengd18:42
WizzupI mean sure, if you think that's better, I am fine with it18:42
freemangordonwell, at least it is supported18:42
WizzupI don't really like nih but whatever, if there's nothing better18:43
Wizzuptracker3 info : https://bpa.st/SNXQ18:43
freemangordonthe point is that if we have to support it, well, better support something we have control over18:43
Wizzupok, sure18:44
freemangordonright, not recognized as MusicPiece18:44
Wizzupok, with subscription disabled in modest it's still broken with this (new) mail server that I use, to be continued18:44
freemangordonhttps://bpa.st/EXIQ18:47
freemangordonWizzup: ^^^18:47
Wizzupyeah, 'file' says it is a mp3 file18:47
Wizzup/mnt/sd/music/Alternative/Woven Hand/Consider The Birds/01. Wovenhand - Sparrow Falls.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 2.4.0, contains: MPEG ADTS, layer III, v1, 128 kbps, 44.1 kHz, JntStereo18:47
WizzupI don't know what tracker3 is smoking18:48
freemangordontry to put a file in .sounds dir18:48
freemangordonmaybe it just ignores your directory as it may consider it something not belonging to him18:48
Wizzupsame problem18:48
freemangordonok, your tracker is broken :D18:49
Wizzupmaybe it wants some gst thing that I don't have or something18:49
Wizzuplooks like one file got picked up as music19:07
Wizzupinteresting19:07
Wizzupbbl19:07
sicelore: ananicy ... 1 week might not be long enough to consider the patch ignored. some of these projects do take a while to respond (few devs?). anyway, i do not have an opinion regarding ananicy vs. something else e.g. nicengd :-)21:21
freemangordonok, I might add a follow-up comment, something between the lines "we, maemo leste, are considering using ananasy , bla, bla.21:35
freemangordonto see if they are interested21:35
freemangordonin21:36
Wizzupha, makes sense :)21:37
Wizzupbtw, there is also a new conversations in -devel, pls give it a try, it so far seems to have fixed the freeze bugs that I was seeing21:37
Wizzupand it adds avatars and more21:37
Wizzup(yay dsc)21:38
freemangordon-devel?21:54
freemangordonwell, I am on daedalus :p21:54
Wizzupfreemangordon: daedalus devel21:59
dsc_yes lots of changes for conversations22:00
dsc_(but mostly on the backend)22:00
dsc_also some UI fixes though22:01
freemangordonWizzup: sicelo: https://gitlab.com/ananicy-cpp/ananicy-cpp/-/issues/7822:02
freemangordonlets see22:02
dsc_donihalim: ^22:03
Wizzupfreemangordon: thx22:07
sicelothank you22:13
sicelobtw, re: conversations, what version is the update? i've just enabled what i think is -devel, and there is no update for conversations being offered22:14
dsc_0.7.2922:14
dsc_btw this is devel22:15
dsc_maybe backup your rtcom db :)22:15
dsc_(99.9% nothing happens, just saying)22:16
siceloi have 0.7.27.1+4m7, and "deb https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste daedalus-devel main contrib non-free  droid4" in /etc/apt/sources.list22:17
Wizzupyeah, you need to pin a higher prio to devel22:18
Wizzupin /etc/apt/preferences.d22:18
siceloah, i do see it in apt-cache policy. will just install manually22:19
Wizzuphopefully we can get rid of these silly pins soon :)22:23
freemangordonWizzup: how?22:24
freemangordonwe'll have to rebuild the whole chimaera repos22:24
Wizzupfreemangordon: well, once people have dist-upgraded I guess22:25
freemangordonyeah, might be22:26

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