libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2025-01-27

dsc_arno: deepseek, MIT and self-hosted, fyi15:41
dsc_arno11 *15:41
arno11dsc_: deepseek...yeah just saw it today :P16:11
arno11code seems exactly the same16:11
arno11i mean the client part16:12
dsc_was looking at it yesterday16:18
dsc_seems interesting16:18
dsc_especially due to the licensing16:18
arno11yes indeed16:18
arno11pricing seems difficult to compare as deepseek handles previous requests differently16:32
arno11iiuc, it is far more interesting for long conversations like troubleshooting, compared to chatgpt16:34
arno11anyway, i should rename maemo-gpt to maemo-AI now :)16:38
arno11however there is no file handling atm (apparently)16:51
kivaHere is information how to switch off/on cores on fly with linux to save power: https://community.arm.com/oss-platforms/w/docs/529/cpuidle-hotplug17:17
Wizzuphttps://mort.coffee/home/wayland-input-latency/ O.o17:19
kivaI would be happy with 24 fps and 42 ms latency with Pinephone :)17:27
uvos__Wizzup: to be fair mutter is particulary bad at this17:29
uvos__Wizzup: to be more fair if he had not used compositing his xorg result would be exactly one frame better too17:30
kivabtw..there is also info about how to set cpu freq on the fly: https://community.arm.com/oss-platforms/w/docs/528/cpufreq-dvfs17:32
kivaIt would be nice drive Pinephone like car: four gear (cpus) and accelerato pedal (cpu freq)...17:34
kiva...seriously it would good some powersavings when battery is under 10%.17:35
kivaI tried switch off core on fly, but Maemo did not allowed do that.17:41
kivawait a minute, it works!!! htop shows only 3 cores.17:45
kivahave to use su command not sudo, to get it work.17:55
kivaThat cpu freq setting on the fly needs more linux knowledge than I have, I can show available settings that are in Pinephone: 648000 816000 912000 960000 1008000 1056000 1104000 1152000, but when I try change it says argument missmatch18:03
freemangordonuvos__: no idea what do WL do, but I assume WL does not use separate scanout buffer for the cursor18:07
freemangordonor, does not render it directly to the front buffer18:08
freemangordonmaybe they fix possible cursor tearing this way, dunno18:08
kivafrom kernel.org: "The CPUfreq governor "userspace" allows the user, or any userspace18:23
kivaprogram running with UID "root", to set the CPU to a specific frequency18:23
kivaby making a sysfs file "scaling_setspeed" available in the CPU-device18:23
kivadirectory.". I think that Leste has not have governor "userspace" so I cannot have scaling_setspeed...someboy who knows more can correct me, I hope I am wrong.18:23
Wizzupkiva: yes, we use this on d418:29
kivaOn PP scaling_available_governors shows only: performance schedutil18:32
Wizzupwell we manually set them to off18:33
kivaPP works fine with one core. Not even feel slow in light Firefox use.18:44
kivawith defaul cpu freq.18:44

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