| uvos__ | its very ugly yeah | 11:32 |
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| uvos__ | but i dont think its the implementations job to fix or worry about that | 11:33 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: it is, as long as it concerns UI | 11:35 |
| uvos__ | its supposed to look like how a mathimatical matrix is conventionally written but it even fails at that since at best its a vector | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | I have a friend of mine that is a designer, I will ask her for help as soon as she is covid clean :) | 11:36 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: imo no, changing logos of external entitiys isent in the uis domain, no matter ugly it would be. doing so would also be a big disservice, since its ugly, but its still what user s are looking for when toey want to seelect matrix | 11:36 |
| freemangordon | in general I agree | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | but, in this particular case, the current icon we use is black text on white rectangular background | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | no icon shall have opaque background | 11:38 |
| freemangordon | so we shall come up with something useful and visible no matter the theme | 11:38 |
| freemangordon | current one is not | 11:38 |
| freemangordon | that's my concern, not that it is ugly | 11:38 |
| freemangordon | so, coloured text on transparent background could do the job | 11:39 |
| freemangordon | like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Matrix_icon.svg, but with black replaced with some color, glowing green perhaps | 11:40 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: also, their recommended client is using its own icon | 11:45 |
| freemangordon | 'Element" that is | 11:46 |
| Wizzup | that is some web clien but yeah | 11:53 |
| freemangordon | not really, you can install it | 12:11 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: honestly now -devel with no tweaks with just few changes in transitions and no tracker in home works very well with acceptable perfs | 12:25 |
| arno11 | that's not super fast but far better than few days ago | 12:26 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: i think you need to seperate the icon that is the icon of the client and the icon that describes the protocoll in the client | 12:56 |
| uvos__ | (where element also uses the [matrix] logo | 12:56 |
| uvos__ | anyhow as long as its still recognizably the [m] logo i dont care | 12:56 |
| uvos__ | and yes element is a electron app you can install ofc | 12:57 |
| freemangordon | arno11: I dont; think it is possible to be any faster than that, besides fixing slow gtk rendering | 13:47 |
| freemangordon | like, this is a device from 2009 | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | oh, alos we may move port of rootfs to onenand | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | that'd reduce startup times | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: I understand and agree | 13:49 |
| freemangordon | that's why I want to come up with some protocol icon derivative | 13:49 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: agree | 13:58 |
| arno11 | qt5 booster could also help | 13:58 |
| buZz | if you guys need some icons designed, lmk ? | 13:58 |
| buZz | or other imagery or 3D stuff perhaps, but i doubt leste needs 3D ;) | 13:59 |
| buZz | i do still want to finish a 'maemo leste phonestand' which features the logo prominently | 13:59 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: for rootfs: ah ok | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | buZz: could you create image that uses https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Matrix_icon.svg as a mask over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | still image ofx | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | *ofc | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | do you get the idea? | 14:01 |
| buZz | hehe , yeah, transparant matrix background? | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | umm... no | 14:02 |
| buZz | so, square icon with black and green matrix background? | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | no, wait | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | lemme try to elaborate | 14:03 |
| buZz | :D | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Matrix_icon.svg is the mask, so only the black parts of it pass the background image | 14:03 |
| buZz | ahhhhhh | 14:03 |
| buZz | like a textured matrix icon | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | that background image is digital rain | 14:03 |
| buZz | with the matrix as matrix | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | all other parts are transparent | 14:04 |
| buZz | right , sure , can-do | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | lets hope I explained it properly :) | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | so, instead of black brackets and m we shall have disigal rain brackets and m | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | *digital rain | 14:05 |
| freemangordon | not sure how would that look like icon, but lets see | 14:05 |
| buZz | square icon, right? i'll just make it toohighres | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | keep the aspect ration | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | otherwise square, yes | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | but maybe we need high res as well, for app manager | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | anyway, lets first see if such image is useful at all | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | will worry about resolutions aftgerwards | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | *afterwards | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | perhaps you will have to thicken the brackets and m | 14:09 |
| buZz | https://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/Leste_Matrix_icon.png | 14:20 |
| buZz | i think it could already look nice, but might benefit from a greyish blurred shadow | 14:20 |
| buZz | freemangordon: ^ | 14:22 |
| buZz | i got maybe 15mins left to do mods if need be , now | 14:22 |
| buZz | else it'll happen later ;) | 14:22 |
| buZz | op verzoek gemaakt ; https://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/Leste_Matrix_icon_dropshadow.png | 14:29 |
| buZz | for one with a grey blurred dropshadow | 14:29 |
| buZz | oops | 14:29 |
| buZz | ignore the 'op verzoek gemaakt ;' | 14:29 |
| buZz | :P | 14:29 |
| buZz | hmmm, that dropshadowed one is nice imho | 14:32 |
| freemangordon | buZz: yes, that was my idea | 15:17 |
| freemangordon | cool, thanks | 15:17 |
| freemangordon | it just needs more saturated green background as if it is 48x48 background will disappear | 15:18 |
| freemangordon | and maybe thicken the brackets and m, so more background to be visible | 15:18 |
| buZz | will do later, feel free to email me these mods ; buzz@spacedout dot nl | 15:20 |
| freemangordon | ok | 15:22 |
| freemangordon | I don't have anyh mods | 15:23 |
| freemangordon | but, if you provide a project I can open in gimp, I can try to do something | 15:23 |
| sicelo | buZz: also needing icon for Maemo OTP client :-) | 16:42 |
| sicelo | and please provide ideas for roaming icon for the network type display (2G, 2.5, 3G, 3.5G, 4G) ... it's exactly 18x11 in size. i was think to keep these as is (since there aren't really any prixels to play with), and instead make them red to indicate roaming | 16:45 |
| Wizzup | arno11: when you test sip, how do you test it, with two of your own sip accounts? what clients? | 16:45 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: i mostly use 2 of my ippi.com accounts with twinkle/sofiasip on leste and gswave on android | 16:50 |
| arno11 | gswave is really good for testing stuff with leste (huge amount of settings) | 16:56 |
| * sicelo will have a look at it ... on android generally uses PortSIP | 16:59 | |
| sicelo | (oh btw, ofono from upstream works beautifully on the Librem5) | 17:00 |
| uvos__ | theres supposed to be a icon for 2.5G? | 17:02 |
| uvos__ | that should be eadge no | 17:02 |
| uvos__ | then its not working | 17:02 |
| sicelo | it's working | 17:03 |
| sicelo | it shows '2.5' | 17:03 |
| uvos__ | well not on d4 | 17:03 |
| sicelo | and yes, Edge | 17:03 |
| uvos__ | ofono reports edge but i get the 2g icon | 17:03 |
| arno11 | same for me | 17:03 |
| sicelo | then something's broken somewhere. there's a 2.5 icon, and i believe i've seen it numerous times | 17:04 |
| sicelo | https://github.com/maemo-leste/osso-icons/blob/master/files/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/statusarea_cell_mode_2_5g.png | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | well | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | float r2score(const torch::Tensor& prediction, const torch::Tensor& truth) | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | { | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | torch::Tensor means = truth.mean(0).repeat({truth.size(0), 1}); | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | torch::Tensor suqareSum = torch::sum(torch::pow(truth-prediction, 2)); | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | torch::Tensor squareSumMean = torch::sum(torch::pow(truth-means, 2)); | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | return 1-suqareSum.item<float>()/squareSumMean.item<float>(); | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | } | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | upps | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | thats the wrong paste | 17:06 |
| uvos__ | org.ofono.ConnectionManager | 17:07 |
| uvos__ | Bearer = edge | 17:07 |
| uvos__ | no icon | 17:07 |
| uvos__ | and im pretty sure hsdpa dosent show 3.5G either | 17:07 |
| uvos__ | so needs investigation | 17:07 |
| arno11 | 3.5g icon works, currently using it | 17:07 |
| sicelo | no, the icon is not based on 'that' Bearer ... | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | it shows 3.5g on n900 | 17:08 |
| sicelo | it's based on NetworkRegistration Tech | 17:08 |
| Wizzup | not on d4 | 17:08 |
| Wizzup | iirc | 17:08 |
| Wizzup | arno11: check, ty | 17:08 |
| arno11 | np | 17:08 |
| uvos__ | hmm but edge isent a network tech is it | 17:08 |
| uvos__ | its just data | 17:08 |
| uvos__ | the voice channels and everything is plain old gsm | 17:08 |
| uvos__ | org.ofono.NetworkRegistration | 17:09 |
| uvos__ | Technology = edge would be wierd | 17:09 |
| sicelo | well ... i'm just telling you what ofono says :-) | 17:09 |
| uvos__ | i get that but it dosent work on d4 like at atm | 17:09 |
| sicelo | https://elixir.bootlin.com/ofono/2.9/source/doc/network-api.txt#L120 | 17:10 |
| uvos__ | i see | 17:10 |
| sicelo | so what does D4 show for NetworkRegistration.Technology when bearer says Edge? | 17:10 |
| uvos__ | yeah the d4 modem never shows anything besides gsm and umts | 17:10 |
| sicelo | fwiw, for some reason, N900 doesn't have Bearer in ConnectionManager.Technology | 17:12 |
| uvos__ | ofono's interfaces are pretty wierd | 17:13 |
| uvos__ | (never mind that the d4 is bugged here) | 17:13 |
| sicelo | i think it's correct (d4) ... | 17:14 |
| sicelo | part of the mistake is most likely in connui-cellular and/or libgofono. | 17:14 |
| uvos__ | i mean the api description implies that Technology should be edge | 17:15 |
| uvos__ | or at least could be edge | 17:15 |
| uvos__ | anyhow ill open a bug ttyl | 17:15 |
| sicelo | https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-cellular/blob/ab3ddcb6f2c8971b21ade168a3f184b74f3f139a/status-menu-item/status-item.c#L98-L99 | 17:17 |
| uvos__ | https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/745 | 17:18 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: keep in mind freemangordon is redoing connui-cellular mostly | 17:28 |
| sicelo | yeah, i recall :-) | 17:29 |
| freemangordon | yes, connui-cellular lacks support for .5 currently | 17:30 |
| Wizzup | (it works on n900) | 17:31 |
| Wizzup | but yes | 17:31 |
| freemangordon | does is? then d4 does not report it properly | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | or connui-cellular does not process it propely | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | anyway, the new one shall be ok | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | (once it is ready) | 17:41 |
| sicelo | lol my D4, connected to internet, has Bearer = none. Tech = umts | 19:54 |
| Wizzup | yeah iirc d4 ofono properties are still a bit off | 20:00 |
| arno11 | sicelo: btw how's your n900 now ? able to boot ? | 20:02 |
| sicelo | i did nuke modest then it worked. haven't played with it again | 20:03 |
| Wizzup | latest upgrades should fix all boot issues | 20:04 |
| sicelo | i'll give it a go again | 20:13 |
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