| dsc_ | do we have Vulkan support on d4? | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| dsc_ | nvm, i dont need it | 00:07 |
| inky | now for some reason maemo doesnt show both tor buttun and brightness applet... | 02:37 |
| Wizzup | this happens if status area crashes, then it does not load 'unsafe' plugins | 02:39 |
| Wizzup | try to restart status area | 02:40 |
| inky | Mmm... How? | 02:44 |
| inky | Minute | 02:44 |
| inky | I think i know | 02:44 |
| inky | I have this script | 02:44 |
| inky | 75hildon-status-menu | 02:44 |
| inky | I moved it to 75 becasue someone, i guess arno11 suggested, and it solved the issue with tor button not shwoing up. | 02:45 |
| inky | So inside i see... | 02:45 |
| inky | ddsmetool -t /usr/bin/hildon-status-menu | 02:46 |
| inky | should i run it as root or as user? | 02:47 |
| inky | running as root didnt help | 02:48 |
| inky | Ok i'll try to reboot once again | 02:52 |
| inky | Doesnt help even if i run it as user | 02:52 |
| inky | Reboots didnt help, update and reboot too.. | 03:37 |
| inky | The only thing i could get out of it was strace... https://bpa.st/YTCA | 04:28 |
| dsc_ | trying to update kexecboot, whats the process? | 10:19 |
| dsc_ | $ sudo fastboot flash bpsw droid4-kexecboot.img | 10:19 |
| dsc_ | fastboot: error: cannot load 'droid4-kexecboot.img': No such file or directory | 10:19 |
| dsc_ | (Yes im noob) | 10:19 |
| dsc_ | ah, from tmlind | 10:21 |
| dsc_ | so kexecboot 0.6 is latest? | 10:23 |
| dsc_ | https://github.com/tmlind/droid4-kexecboot/tree/master/2023-12-26 | 10:23 |
| Wizzup | you just take the one from the 'current' map yes | 10:53 |
| Wizzup | inky: gdb should allow you to attach too | 10:53 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: whats this GPS GUI app called? | 10:59 |
| Wizzup | the one I mentioned the other day? | 10:59 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps | 11:00 |
| dsc_ | kk | 11:00 |
| Wizzup | some distros did a lot of de-vendoring https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/395 | 11:01 |
| Wizzup | there's also https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/6624 | 11:02 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md#linux-or-macos | 11:03 |
| dsc_ | i can untangle the vendored stuff but then keeping up with upstream will be annoying | 11:04 |
| dsc_ | suppose keeping up with upstream with will annoying regardless since there's also GUI & UX changes needed | 11:04 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/organicmaps | 11:05 |
| dsc_ | will be* | 11:05 |
| Wizzup | well it is probably worth seeing what o thers did first | 11:05 |
| Wizzup | IMO, vendoring is a complete pain and distro-averse | 11:05 |
| Wizzup | so yes it will be a pain to keep up with upstream, but that is what happens if one vendors everything | 11:05 |
| dsc_ | yes | 11:05 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/123259 | 11:06 |
| dsc_ | its just nice to have a good working GPS map thing on Leste, regardless if the version may be outdated | 11:06 |
| Wizzup | fwiw it might also be that we need a newer debian for it to work, and then we just suspect for now I suppose | 11:06 |
| Wizzup | yeah so I have a amd64 package/build on my vm | 11:06 |
| Wizzup | but without a debian pkg/deb I think | 11:06 |
| Wizzup | it might also be worth looking at or trying the flatpak wrt vendoring | 11:08 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/flathub/app.organicmaps.desktop / https://flathub.org/apps/app.organicmaps.desktop | 11:08 |
| Wizzup | it has no armhf available, but it has aarch64 available | 11:08 |
| dsc_ | git clone --recursive = 6gb | 12:03 |
| dsc_ | 31 vendored libs | 12:03 |
| dsc_ | 40k commits | 12:04 |
| dsc_ | just to show some maps :D | 12:04 |
| Wizzup | yeah 30GB space needed for build | 12:07 |
| Wizzup | like I said, it's quite big | 12:07 |
| inky | was someone able to look at my strace? | 12:58 |
| inky | https://bpa.st/YTCA | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | I don't know what to do with it, please install the debug symbols and use gdb | 13:43 |
| Wizzup | does 'pkill status' bright it back, btw? | 13:43 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: simple app using QtLocation: https://plak.infrapuin.nl/selif/5temmy1z.jpeg | 13:45 |
| dsc_ | 30fps smooth | 13:45 |
| dsc_ | so maybe worth to spend a day or two on this just so we have something? | 13:46 |
| dsc_ | its already working, just need directions/route calc | 13:46 |
| dsc_ | touch/dragging also works quite well | 13:48 |
| dsc_ | https://plak.infrapuin.nl/selif/g77rrh9t.png | 13:49 |
| dsc_ | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 13:51 |
| Wizzup | we already have map applications than can show things | 13:54 |
| Wizzup | but the routing is really complicated and organicmaps is quite advanced | 13:55 |
| dsc_ | ah ok | 13:55 |
| Wizzup | there are maep, cloudgps and one more that I forget | 13:55 |
| Wizzup | but they won't let you search for places and do routing | 13:55 |
| Wizzup | which organicmaps does | 13:55 |
| Wizzup | also just navigating to a street address so to say | 13:55 |
| dsc_ | latest organicmaps is qt6 btw | 14:41 |
| dsc_ | since https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/pull/2466 | 14:41 |
| Wizzup | hm, when I last compiled it, it was still qt5 | 15:06 |
| Wizzup | btw, I was thinking we should include our manual on the device | 15:12 |
| Wizzup | either as pdf or html page | 15:12 |
| inky | Wizzup, thaaaank you, pkill status solved the issue! | 15:22 |
| Wizzup | so it was what I mentioned then, it crashes on startup and then starts the fail safe version. | 15:28 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: any ideas how we should do dtmf? | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | I'm looking to switch away from fremantle imminently, and the only things I really need is DTMF in rare cases | 16:42 |
| bencoh | ofono has no dtmf support? | 16:48 |
| Wizzup | I think it does/might, but we talk with telepathy-ring | 16:50 |
| Wizzup | and I don't think ofono knows how to do dtfm to our modem | 16:50 |
| Wizzup | since we have alsa(mixer) controls for it | 16:50 |
| bencoh | ah | 16:51 |
| Wizzup | right :) | 16:51 |
| buZz | i've used the alsamixer stuff to get through some menu a couple times | 17:14 |
| buZz | it works, but kinda cumbersome | 17:14 |
| sicelo | bencoh: ofono does have dtmf support, yes | 17:18 |
| tmlind | 2da052747738 ("qmimodem: voicecall: Implement DTMF tones") | 17:23 |
| Wizzup | tmlind: ah! :) | 17:34 |
| Wizzup | https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240402212625.5348-4-adam@piggz.co.uk/ | 17:35 |
| Wizzup | I don't think we have this in our ofono yet | 17:36 |
| Wizzup | ok, so I will add the dtmf code to the sphone vcm module | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | uvos: got a preferred way for doing this interface wise? | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | some handler when people press a number? | 18:04 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: freemangordon: should we go to ofono 2.7 then? | 18:09 |
| sicelo | i would like to say Yes, yes :-) | 18:13 |
| sicelo | but i've never tried it on d4 ... at least fmg will Know how close things are or what's missing | 18:14 |
| Wizzup | ok | 18:42 |
| Wizzup | maybe I just need to patch in some fork+exec for amixer locally :P | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | We can try 2.7 for experimental, but I'd like to wait for fmg, he's been very good with ofono | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | I mean he took over the maintenance a bit I think | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | (for us) | 18:43 |
| inky | btw adam piggz is the developer of amazfish. | 19:50 |
| tmlind | replied to the lost qmi modem events thred fyi: https://lore.kernel.org/ofono/2146730.9o76ZdvQCi@adam-laptop-hp/T/#u | 20:27 |
| Wizzup | great | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: freemangordon: I plan to make the user-guide.desktop do this: Exec=x-www-browser /usr/share/path/to/maemo-user-guide | 20:51 |
| Wizzup | of course the user guide will become a package | 20:51 |
| Wizzup | any objections? | 20:51 |
| sicelo | what about N900 :p | 20:57 |
| sicelo | but sure, sounds like fine idea to me | 21:06 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: x-www-browser could be dillo | 22:27 |
| Wizzup | ? | 22:27 |
| Wizzup | does anyone remember how to make a browser show up in update-alternatives? I seem to have forgotten | 22:27 |
| Wizzup | I think maybe our packages don't do this yet | 22:31 |
| Wizzup | update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /usr/bin/jib 210 | 22:31 |
| Wizzup | yeah so we need to do some postinst / prerm stuff | 22:32 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: I pushed to jib a commit that will make it the default browser | 22:41 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: so what browser *should* we default to on n900 | 22:41 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: the only usable one i know is links2 (graphical), all others i tried were unusable | 22:45 |
| Wizzup | is this the one you use? | 22:45 |
| arno11 | yes | 22:45 |
| Wizzup | what is the package name? | 22:45 |
| arno11 | links2 | 22:46 |
| arno11 | there is a cli mode and a graphical mode | 22:46 |
| Wizzup | ok | 22:46 |
| Wizzup | so dillo didn't work well for you? | 22:47 |
| arno11 | i never tried it, let me few min to try :) | 22:47 |
| Wizzup | I guess the downside is that if we use dillo from debian it won't show up in the main app menu but in the debian submenu :D | 22:49 |
| arno11 | yep | 22:50 |
| arno11 | wow seems to work fine | 22:50 |
| Wizzup | ah dillo doesn't do touch screen though | 22:51 |
| Wizzup | or maybe it does on n900 | 22:51 |
| arno11 | touch woks | 22:52 |
| arno11 | *works | 22:52 |
| Wizzup | I mean scrolling with a gesture | 22:52 |
| arno11 | ah indeed not | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | but neither does links2 | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | we could build a simple ui around dillo for the n900, but I don't think I will do it :) | 22:54 |
| arno11 | :) | 22:54 |
| arno11 | well, dillo can't load too heavy websites unfortunately | 22:55 |
| arno11 | links2 does, most of the time | 22:55 |
| Wizzup | links2 -g ? | 23:01 |
| arno11 | yep | 23:01 |
| arno11 | what is the weblink for the user guide btw ? | 23:02 |
| Wizzup | http://maemo-leste-manual.motionlibre.org/ | 23:02 |
| arno11 | ty | 23:02 |
| Wizzup | but I was using file:/// on my droid4 with jib | 23:02 |
| arno11 | ok | 23:02 |
| Wizzup | I think dillo does a better job of rendering it than links2 -g tbh | 23:03 |
| Wizzup | we also had surf2 btw, but it might also be too slow for n900 | 23:05 |
| Wizzup | (it's also webkit) | 23:05 |
| arno11 | links2 needs some tweaks/settings btw and u must disable compo | 23:05 |
| arno11 | i just tried the user guide and it's not bad | 23:06 |
| arno11 | (yes surf2 is too slow) | 23:06 |
| arno11 | image loading works better on links2 (compare to dillo) | 23:11 |
| arno11 | but dillo is far easier to use for basic stuff | 23:12 |
| arno11 | so imo it is the right browser for the user guide | 23:12 |
| arno11 | (dillo) | 23:12 |
| arno11 | dillo is a way faster with compo disable btw | 23:13 |
| Wizzup | interesting, for me, on links2, the images do not load at all | 23:17 |
| arno11 | that's weird | 23:22 |
| Wizzup | do you use links -g urlhere ? | 23:26 |
| Wizzup | or something else? | 23:26 |
| Wizzup | well, links2 | 23:26 |
| arno11 | yep | 23:27 |
| arno11 | (you can start links2 gui mode from hildon debian submenu btw) | 23:28 |
| arno11 | i just tried again and user guide images load fine | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | ok | 23:50 |
| Wizzup | so I think there was some other stuff I had to check, the ringtones, and the leste-config changes / cssufeatures stuff? | 23:50 |
| Wizzup | probably better tomorrow, but yea :) | 23:51 |
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