| uvos | unfortionatly no call audio | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| Wizzup | *nod* | 00:11 |
| arno11 | (Wizzup: i successfully removed $home from trackers) | 00:16 |
| Wizzup | does it make a difference? | 00:17 |
| arno11 | apparently yes (for conversations at least) | 00:18 |
| arno11 | i mean tracker miner doesn't start when i launch conversation ui | 00:19 |
| arno11 | so it seems good | 00:20 |
| uvos | bionic is happy | 00:20 |
| uvos | ok im pushing | 00:20 |
| uvos | but i dont think its ready for more than expiramental with these flaws | 00:21 |
| uvos | Wizzup: https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/tree/maemo-6.6v3 | 00:23 |
| Wizzup | arno11: great, we can just remove it | 00:25 |
| Wizzup | uvos: agreed, ty! | 00:25 |
| arno11 | yes, it works, no more troubles with qt5 apps :) | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | so the booster is not needed, or is that unrelated? | 00:30 |
| arno11 | it is unrelated, qt5 apps still need around 5-7 sec to start | 00:31 |
| arno11 | usually | 00:31 |
| uvos | i mean theres something wrong with qt here | 00:32 |
| uvos | sphone hangs like 2 seconds in QApplication constructor | 00:32 |
| uvos | that really shoud not do mutch | 00:32 |
| uvos | (when used with qtloop) | 00:32 |
| arno11 | and it seems not related to device performances | 00:33 |
| arno11 | it takes 2 sec on n900 and on proot as well | 00:34 |
| Wizzup | arno11: ok | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | I found it hard to do this timing with this other package that makes it faster | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | how did you time it | 00:46 |
| arno11 | you mean that it is slower on your device ? | 00:47 |
| Wizzup | I mean I found it hard to measure how the gtk pkg made things faster | 00:48 |
| arno11 | now that's hard for me as well (since i had other tweaks like blur stuff) | 00:50 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: how long it takes for you to launch conversations or hamsterfiler or calendar ? | 00:57 |
| Wizzup | arno11: well how do you time this exactly | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | with a stopwatch? | 01:06 |
| arno11 | yep :P | 01:09 |
| arno11 | anyway there are too much parameters involved to compare imo (trackers or not, gtk env var, theme in use, appmenu, transitions, sdcard speed, vm...) | 01:16 |
| arno11 | time to sleep, gn | 01:17 |
| Wizzup | arno11: ok, so maybe we make a leste config for tracker where we don't track $HOME by default, I think that makes sense | 01:52 |
| Wizzup | so for which devices should we build the tiny images? I guess only for mz617? | 01:56 |
| Wizzup | arno11: added the sysctl and init scripts | 11:59 |
| Wizzup | sysctl.d | 11:59 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: yes makes sense (for not tracking $HOME) and seems to work fine | 12:22 |
| arno11 | cool for leste-config | 12:23 |
| arno11 | and for transitions, we have already shortcuts.ini.leste in the same directory | 12:24 |
| arno11 | so creating transitions.ini.leste should work, no ? | 12:25 |
| Wizzup | what pkg diverts these shortcuts then? | 12:25 |
| Wizzup | I think maybe only and I have this | 12:26 |
| arno11 | (in leste-config-n900/usr/share/hildon-desktop) | 12:26 |
| Wizzup | but yes we can dpkg-divert the file, it just means we have to update it if/when we change it in hildon-desktop | 12:26 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 12:26 |
| arno11 | a xsession script before H-D starts otherwise ? (a bit too 'hacky' perhaps) | 12:31 |
| Wizzup | arno11: it's not a problem to ship a transitions.ini with divert | 12:34 |
| Wizzup | I guess I just can't think of a better way :D | 12:34 |
| arno11 | ok :) | 12:36 |
| arno11 | and for tracker gsettings i suppose you'll use leste-config-n900.init ? | 12:41 |
| Wizzup | that one I am still thinking about | 12:45 |
| Wizzup | I think we probably don't want HOME indexed by default on all our devices | 12:45 |
| Wizzup | but it would be kind of annoying if someone does want it, but then every time they get some updates we reset it | 12:48 |
| Wizzup | so maybe we should change the tracker pkg default values, since we ship our own tracker version anyway | 12:49 |
| arno11 | ok makes sense, a basic applet in hildon settings could be useful btw | 12:57 |
| Wizzup | for tracker? | 12:58 |
| Wizzup | yeah it probably would be | 12:59 |
| arno11 | yes for tracker | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | maybe make an issue for it | 13:00 |
| arno11 | ok, good idea | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | bbiab, 1-2 hours | 13:02 |
| kiva | If somebody want test browsers Three.js fps in Leste then this is nce page: https://ays-arts.de/public/terrain/ | 13:33 |
| kiva | *nice page | 13:33 |
| kiva | I get with Firefox in Pinephone 12 fps, but if I put Firefox in full screen I get 15-19 FPS. | 13:36 |
| kiva | BUT...it does not show what it should..it should show terrain and not vertical bars. | 13:38 |
| kiva | ok..it might be for KaiOS and might need adapted for Leste.https://github.com/Sekuta82/ScrollingTerrain_KaiOS | 13:47 |
| kiva | 23-25 fps in portrait mode in QT WebBrowser | 14:13 |
| kiva | it would be nice to know what FPS in another Leste devices. | 14:21 |
| Wizzup | are you planning to try to improve perf, or? | 14:36 |
| Wizzup | uvos: do we want this in sysctl.d ? | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | net.ipv4.neigh.default.interval_probe_time_ms = -1 | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | net.ipv6.neigh.default.interval_probe_time_ms = -1 | 14:37 |
| arno11 | kiva: i got 22-25 fps in Firefox portrait mode/ no fullscreen with my redmi (Proot) | 14:43 |
| kiva | arno11: good to know | 14:44 |
| kiva | Wizzup: Just testing. | 14:45 |
| arno11 | interesting how proot performs well btw | 14:50 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: i opened an issue for tracker UI | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | ty | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | there's also tracker3 on the roadmap fwiw... | 14:51 |
| dsc_ | <kiva> 23-25 fps in portrait mode in QT WebBrowser <== Not 'jib', right? | 14:52 |
| dsc_ | I think the Qt test webbrowser uses QML so probably some performance loss there | 14:53 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: yes and most CPU/RAM troubles seems to disappear using tracker 3 (according to ubuntu forum) | 14:53 |
| arno11 | biab | 14:54 |
| kiva | dsc_: not jib? my QT WebBrowser was that what is in Application Manager in Leste. | 14:54 |
| dsc_ | kk | 14:55 |
| uvos | jib is certenly better than QTWebBrowser at this point | 15:41 |
| Wizzup | I'll make a ham entry for it | 16:08 |
| Wizzup | (done) | 16:48 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: ^^ | 16:48 |
| dsc_ | nice :) | 16:49 |
| Wizzup | uvos: well we still need to figure out some vkb for qt apps (regarding jib being better) | 19:19 |
| Wizzup | it might make sense to borrow some of the qtwebbrowser code for this | 19:19 |
| Wizzup | until we have a better solution in place | 19:20 |
| Wizzup | then again calendar etc also suffer from this | 19:20 |
| Wizzup | uvos: looks like I might have been able to produce an image maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-mz617-20240505.img.xz | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | but it is in the tiny version I think | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | 215M -rw-r--r-- 1 merlijn merlijn 215M May 5 12:32 maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-mz617-20240505.img.xz | 19:50 |
| uvos | Wizzup: cant we just enable the qt vkb globally | 20:05 |
| uvos | for qt | 20:05 |
| uvos | this is just an envvar no? | 20:05 |
| uvos | you can get mz617 kexecboot to show a leste install on a usb stick via otg | 20:06 |
| uvos | but for some reason it hangs when you try to boot it :( | 20:06 |
| Wizzup | uvos: what env var? I am game to try it | 20:07 |
| uvos | sec im looking for it | 20:07 |
| uvos | btw ibus | 20:09 |
| uvos | Wizzup: QT_IM_MODULE=qtvirtualkeyboard works on my desktop machine | 20:10 |
| Wizzup | ok, let me try it with jib | 20:10 |
| uvos | the main problem is going to be hildon | 20:11 |
| uvos | it dosent support the type of window this creates | 20:11 |
| uvos | whats in the "tiny image" | 20:12 |
| uvos | is this just cli? | 20:12 |
| Wizzup | no, it's basically what I got you yesterday | 20:13 |
| uvos | but thats 900mb | 20:13 |
| uvos | :P | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | .xz | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | :) | 20:13 |
| uvos | ok | 20:13 |
| uvos | right | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | hildon-meta-core and most man pages etc gone | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | but has wifi/touch/terminal etcc | 20:13 |
| uvos | and 500mb of drivers | 20:14 |
| uvos | for gpus we dont have | 20:14 |
| uvos | :P | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | like 70mb or so but yes | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | :D | 20:14 |
| uvos | qt and gtk support this btw https://github.com/ibus/ibus/wiki | 20:15 |
| uvos | well gtk3+ | 20:16 |
| Wizzup | yeah I do know ibus | 20:16 |
| Wizzup | didn't know gtk2 didn't support it | 20:17 |
| uvos | probubly would be better than xtest | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | btw your droid4-linux branch has two commits that add the hp interrupt | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | and then you remove it in a later commit | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | (which is fine, just letting you know) | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/commit/ab233e202ca9643dbe882b303deabb1fc37dbff7 | 20:17 |
| uvos | yeah i know it ended up in there twice | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/commit/08da01dd4a98a7a3b4a0e6638096ff2a07a967d9 | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | those two add it | 20:17 |
| uvos | i know | 20:18 |
| uvos | i gues reverting one would have been cleaner | 20:18 |
| uvos | but eh | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | *shrug* | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | you can rebase so you can throw away whatevre you wnat | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | regarding no audio, wonder if it's related to https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/commit/72b337ca195e3b2da2f93c47e82af9b77021f576 | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | (for calls) | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | if even just the names changed or something | 20:18 |
| uvos | could be | 20:18 |
| uvos | then again we allready know that even if nothing is powered, speaker audio should work | 20:19 |
| uvos | because of the hw bug in cpcap | 20:19 |
| uvos | that dosent allow that part to power down | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | hm | 20:20 |
| uvos | but yes diffing the regs between 6.1 and 6.6 is an obvious first step | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | the fun never stops :D | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | QT_IM_MODULE=qtvirtualkeyboard jib | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | so this indeed kind of works but yes the windows isn't overlayed/on top | 20:23 |
| uvos | dose the jib context menu also not work for you on d4? | 20:24 |
| Wizzup | I think it does for me, let me try | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | maybe you need to delete the jib user data or something | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | it works for me | 20:32 |
| uvos | where dose jib store its data? | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | $HOME/.local/share/Kroket\ Ltd./jib/ | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | (yes it's confusing :p) | 20:34 |
| uvos | so refresh seams to work | 20:36 |
| uvos | and back | 20:36 |
| uvos | but new window or new tab dosent | 20:36 |
| uvos | also "QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to WebWidget "widgetWeb", which already has a layout" allways comes with the context menu | 20:36 |
| uvos | specificly the context menu that pops up when you longpress something OTHER than a link is fine | 20:39 |
| uvos | but the context menu that comes when you press on a link is not | 20:39 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: eh, that needs changing to maemo | 20:44 |
| dsc_ | @ dirname | 20:44 |
| dsc_ | QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to WebWidget "widgetWeb", which already has a layout <== this is "normal" :PPpP | 20:45 |
| dsc_ | just Qt things | 20:45 |
| dsc_ | uvos: new window should work... | 20:45 |
| Wizzup | so I checked and the website I am trying to use also doesn't work with qtwebbrowser, so it's probably qt web engine thing | 20:57 |
| dsc_ | heh' | 21:04 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: or just make .local/share/jib ? | 21:05 |
| Wizzup | (without maemo) | 21:05 |
| dsc_ | there are 2 places; ~/.config/jib/ for SQLite db and config file, then there's ~/.local/share/... that Qt webview creates | 21:07 |
| dsc_ | uvos: try deleting `/.config/jib/` | 21:07 |
| uvos | dsc_: no change | 21:58 |
| Wizzup | anything special about your d4? | 21:59 |
| uvos | not really | 21:59 |
| uvos | its also not the touch itself | 21:59 |
| uvos | by launching jib with xcb and fusion platform plugin and theam | 21:59 |
| uvos | i can select create new window with the keyboard and click enter with it | 22:00 |
| uvos | it also dosent work in this case either | 22:00 |
| dsc_ | uvos: this is latest commit? | 22:01 |
| dsc_ | or, latest version I suppose | 22:01 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I still have trouble getting videos to show in OMP, any tips? | 22:08 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: you should try all tweaks: i'm able to launch around 20 apps @the same time :) with no boost. RAM usage stays @180-190 with 200-250 of swap. H-D is still quite smooth, apps are slower ofc but still usable | 22:38 |
| Wizzup | what apps? | 22:38 |
| arno11 | almost all my apps | 22:38 |
| arno11 | so i discovered a bug | 22:38 |
| Wizzup | ok, let's see, I think I just need to set up the transistions.ini divert | 22:39 |
| Wizzup | and then leste-config has all your tweaks, no? | 22:39 |
| arno11 | yes excepting tracker i think | 22:39 |
| Wizzup | oh, the gsettings change... yeah.... | 22:40 |
| arno11 | (the bug: scrolling doesn't work in the window showing all apps opened) | 22:40 |
| arno11 | the cursor appears but when i try to scroll, it returns to desktop | 22:41 |
| arno11 | anyway minor bug | 22:41 |
| Wizzup | the window all apps opened = the hildon expose? | 22:43 |
| arno11 | yes i suppose | 22:43 |
| arno11 | i mean the window where you can switch between opened apps | 22:45 |
| Wizzup | damnit debian doesn't maintain recent anki builds and the one that it does provide is the same as which we have, and it doesn't so custom syncing | 23:21 |
| arno11 | i never used it but seems really cool | 23:27 |
| Wizzup | yeah, it is, but I'm frustated because now I still have to use my laptop and I really wanted to do it on leste | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | as for the gsettings and tracker, I am still not sure how to properly do it | 23:31 |
| Wizzup | when to set it, from where, etc. | 23:37 |
| Wizzup | /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.freedesktop.Tracker.Miner.Files.gschema.xml sets the default to $HOME and &DOWNLOADS | 23:39 |
| Wizzup | so we could re-build tracker-miners and change the default gsettings value and remove $HOME fro it | 23:41 |
| Wizzup | that seems like the cleanest way imo | 23:41 |
| arno11 | ok i see | 23:48 |
| arno11 | and this xml file is in tracker-miners/data | 23:51 |
| Wizzup | yes | 23:52 |
| Wizzup | well I don't know the exact place but I found it there just now | 23:52 |
| * Wizzup zzz | 23:53 | |
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