| arno11 | Wizzup: using 'tracker daemon -t' | 00:15 |
|---|---|---|
| arno11 | it immediately stops tracker miner, extract and store | 00:16 |
| Wizzup | ok | 00:29 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: hi, can you confirm that appmenu-gtk2-module is not installed by default in Leste ? | 16:42 |
| arno11 | well, seems not, and this module improves qt5 launch time | 17:11 |
| arno11 | with this module (and trackers OFF and stock freqs), conversations starts in around 4 sec on n900 (instead of 15-20 sec OOTB) | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | what is appmenu from? | 17:20 |
| arno11 | devuan leste repo | 17:21 |
| Wizzup | interesting, wonder what this does to make it faster | 17:21 |
| arno11 | it seems affecting other distro too | 17:22 |
| arno11 | seems a known qt5/gtk bug | 17:23 |
| Wizzup | do you have a link to the known bug? | 17:26 |
| Wizzup | also great find | 17:26 |
| arno11 | thx, let me have a look for links | 17:27 |
| sicelo | btw, last downloadable d4 image is from around 2-3 weeks ago. we're having storage issues again? (didn't check N900) | 17:29 |
| Wizzup | fwiw you can check here https://phoenix.maemo.org/view/Images/ | 17:29 |
| Wizzup | dd: error writing '/home/jenkins/workspace/leste-image-droid4/arm-sdk/tmp/devuan-armhf-build/maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-droid4-20240407.img': No space left on device | 17:30 |
| Wizzup | looks like it | 17:30 |
| sicelo | there'll hopefully be L5 images to build as well, soon :p | 17:31 |
| Wizzup | sweet | 17:32 |
| sicelo | freemangordon: the ongoing qmimodem work in ofono ... how does that fit in with work you've been doing wrt. d4 modem? | 17:33 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: yeah did you have any luck with just qmi? :) | 17:54 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: https://askubuntu.com/a/748186/79691 | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1185372/why-does-forcing-qt-applications-to-use-gtk-theme-makes-those-apps-startup-slowl | 18:02 |
| Wizzup | after clicking around | 18:02 |
| Wizzup | still no actual explanation | 18:02 |
| Wizzup | but definitely looks like it works for others | 18:02 |
| arno11 | yep | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | I wonder if it's something in env or not | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | nothing looks different I suppose? | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | the app menus still work? | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | like the menu in the app title | 18:03 |
| arno11 | yes with no troubles | 18:03 |
| arno11 | yep no diff | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | ok | 18:04 |
| arno11 | yes i think it is related to env | 18:04 |
| Wizzup | not just the shared object? | 18:04 |
| arno11 | (i can't find anymore the most useful links) | 18:05 |
| Wizzup | maybe setting QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME explicitly helps somehow | 18:05 |
| Wizzup | but we do set the style override | 18:05 |
| Wizzup | worth a shot | 18:05 |
| Wizzup | QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2 I mean | 18:05 |
| arno11 | i tried but no diff | 18:06 |
| Wizzup | ok | 18:06 |
| arno11 | in fact i tried to modify several env with no result | 18:06 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: sicelo: qmi works with d4, though I didn't test voice. However, USB wakeup doe not seem sto work | 18:06 |
| freemangordon | right now I suspended work on ofono, I want to finish connui-cellular first | 18:07 |
| freemangordon | hopefully in a week or so it'll hit -devel | 18:07 |
| Wizzup | sweet :) | 18:11 |
| sicelo | cool | 18:12 |
| arno11 | cool, sweet, great | 18:12 |
| dsc_ | nice | 18:13 |
| sicelo | the other day i looked at my N900's battery display, and noticed that there's definitely space to display a 2nd battery and its parameters (if you remove the word "Battery") | 18:14 |
| * sicelo hides | 18:14 | |
| sicelo | no, not saying we should do it | 18:14 |
| bencoh | :] | 18:14 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: ok great, so are you using /dev/ttyUSB5 now for wakeups? | 18:14 |
| sicelo | tmlind: still using sway on your D4? | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | I didn't try | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | will do when I get back to ofono | 18:15 |
| tmlind | ok | 18:16 |
| tmlind | sicelo: yeah sway and scripts.. hoping to move to ofono | 18:16 |
| sicelo | i wondered if we changed SW_KEYPAD_SLIDE in dts to SW_TABLET_MODE ... i think sway has built in support for that switch | 18:17 |
| sicelo | while nothing (besides Leste) appears to care about KEYPAD_SLIDE | 18:18 |
| tmlind | oh ok, not sure if we can really touch the dts mappings for keys.. but it's easy to map using hwdb | 18:18 |
| sicelo | true | 18:20 |
| Wizzup | arno11: so let's see, we can either just install the package or try to figure out what it actually does that makes it faster | 18:30 |
| Wizzup | I'm fine with either at this point imo | 18:30 |
| Wizzup | we can just have our qt pkg depend on it | 18:30 |
| Wizzup | arno11: I tried it and it doesn't really make a difference for me | 18:38 |
| Wizzup | did you restart after installing the package | 18:38 |
| Wizzup | keep in mind that conversations will just tell the running conversations to show the window if it's already running | 18:39 |
| Wizzup | so this would make it 4s instead of say 15s | 18:39 |
| Wizzup | btw, I'm attachign strace to one of the tracker processes and it doesn't seem to do anything other than idle | 18:42 |
| Wizzup | tracker-miner-fs this is | 18:43 |
| arno11 | yes you need to reboot | 19:27 |
| arno11 | and you need to disable trackers after reboot, otherwise it will be very slow | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | arno11: what Wizzup said is that tracker does *nothing* while qt applications start | 19:31 |
| arno11 | i know that | 19:32 |
| arno11 | i don't know what's happening | 19:33 |
| freemangordon | well, there is no reason then for tracker to affect anything, it is just an idle process | 19:34 |
| arno11 | so i recommend you to try on your device | 19:35 |
| arno11 | and see | 19:35 |
| freemangordon | will do | 19:35 |
| Wizzup | I only straced one program | 19:35 |
| arno11 | the problem is with the 3 progs | 19:36 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: please check the others | 19:37 |
| freemangordon | arno11: 3? | 19:37 |
| freemangordon | tracker-extract should run on demand only | 19:37 |
| Wizzup | there are no others on my n900 | 19:37 |
| freemangordon | what are those 3? | 19:37 |
| arno11 | miner, store and extract | 19:38 |
| freemangordon | extract runs all the time on your device? | 19:39 |
| arno11 | yes: if you start conversations ui after boot, wait one min | 19:39 |
| arno11 | then tracker miner start, then extract and store | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | arno11: first conversations start after reboot takes more time | 19:40 |
| arno11 | then that's the moment to stop them | 19:40 |
| arno11 | fmg: yes oc | 19:40 |
| arno11 | *ofc | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | arno11: ok, I will try , not today though | 19:41 |
| arno11 | ok no rush | 19:41 |
| arno11 | one more thing: light transitions are needed | 19:48 |
| arno11 | otherwise, no surprise if the device is still slow | 19:49 |
| arno11 | transitions + appmenu + trackers OFF make the diff | 19:51 |
| arno11 | bbl | 19:51 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: looking to logs, my explainations are unclear as usual | 21:17 |
| arno11 | most of the time, trackers are 'idle' | 21:20 |
| arno11 | so that's not so easy to trace whatis going on | 21:21 |
| arno11 | when you start a qt5 app, tracker miner usually start and use 100 cpu | 21:22 |
| arno11 | then extract and store (for few sec) | 21:22 |
| arno11 | enough to increase launch time a lot | 21:23 |
| arno11 | and then, idling again | 21:23 |
| arno11 | if you don't start a qt app and wait at least 30 sec, impossible to pgrep or stop them | 21:25 |
| arno11 | once stopped, apps are a bit faster to start and more if you install appmenu (need reboot) | 21:26 |
| arno11 | the last thing is transitions | 21:27 |
| arno11 | with light ones, conversations (after the first launch) starts really faster, usually between 3-6 sec, depending of cache | 21:30 |
| arno11 | most of the time 4 sec, 2 sec with boost @805 | 21:31 |
| arno11 | swappiness and page-cluster have a (small) impact as well | 21:34 |
| arno11 | i just tried again: 4 sec to launch conversations ui | 21:39 |
| arno11 | so, again, that's a combination of things, but gnome tracker and qt5 style/menu issues are quite common apparently, according to other distro forums | 21:54 |
| Wizzup | arno11: ok, sounds good, I didn't look very hard and I definitely believe you :) | 22:26 |
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