| arno11 | Wizzup: it works :) thx gn | 00:34 |
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| freemangordon | Wizzup: I did what we discussed (adding QScroller to all QAbstractScrollArea widgets from style plugin) | 09:06 |
| freemangordon | seems to work, besides scrollbars not showing | 09:06 |
| freemangordon | seems nobody calls showScrollIndicators :( | 09:08 |
| freemangordon | yeah https://github.com/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/blob/b3282763fc0a95b7f6eddc7b8caf7406003975ac/src/gui/widgets/qabstractscrollarea.cpp#L360 | 09:09 |
| freemangordon | ok, seems event filter is needed | 09:11 |
| wunderwungiel | Hello guys! I'm testing latest Maemo Leste for Nokia N900, it's awesome | 10:28 |
| wunderwungiel | A bit slow, but after overclocking it's usable. Great that you added dialer and conversations apps | 10:28 |
| wunderwungiel | Is there any screenshot app & can you recommend any usable web browser? | 10:29 |
| Wizzup | calls will also work some time soon :) | 10:35 |
| Wizzup | not really @ web browser, maye sicelo has some ideas | 10:35 |
| sicelo | no recommendations on browser - after all, there's too many variables involved with that, the major one being the sites themselves (heavy) | 10:37 |
| sicelo | wunderwungiel: nice to see you here btw :-) | 10:38 |
| sicelo | screenshot - i believe the standard maemo way of Ctrl + Shift + X already works? if not, might be just a small modification needed somewhere... i forgot what | 10:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | screenshot? Would be Ctrl Shift P saving to $HOME/MyDocs/.images/Screenshots, if same as Fremantle. | 10:46 |
| sicelo | ah, yes, P, not X | 10:46 |
| sicelo | thanks | 10:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | X would be terminal on maemo. | 10:46 |
| wunderwungiel | Ah, so thanks | 10:50 |
| wunderwungiel | Didn't think about that :) | 10:50 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: yeah looks like it is sparqc | 11:03 |
| Wizzup | sparql | 11:03 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 11:55 |
| freemangordon | not something I know | 11:55 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: maybe you should revert all the places you added QScroller to | 13:16 |
| dsc_ | hey, so for conversations I made a QML (QtQuick) frontend | 14:35 |
| dsc_ | what is giving me trouble is the blending of Qt and rtcom on the backend | 14:36 |
| dsc_ | because rtcom is a glib C library and Qt is C++ this is a bit awkward | 14:36 |
| dsc_ | so, rtcom is used to interact with the sqlite database (el-v1.db) that contains our text messages | 14:37 |
| dsc_ | which means that if I want to make a specific SQL query (to get (group)messages), that is actually quite complicated | 14:38 |
| dsc_ | in some cases modifications to rtcom is needed to facilitate the creation of specific SQL queries | 14:39 |
| dsc_ | meanwhile, Qt has a very capable SQL library that can interface with sqlite databases and I would argue that is, at least for now, the pragmatic way to make some advancements over at conversations | 14:40 |
| dsc_ | kind of the same situation over at OMP, where it uses mafw, meanwhile I could have made a Qt based media player ... in like a week ;) | 14:40 |
| dsc_ | (but I do recognize that rtcom, or mafw have certain specific qualities) | 14:41 |
| buZz | could we maybe list all those 'default maemo shortcuts' on a wikipage? like ctrl-shift-P | 14:43 |
| dsc_ | anyway, I am kind of 'dissatisfied' with the speed of development for conversations due to the hard requirement to use these libraries (like rtcom) | 14:43 |
| buZz | hmhm, and rtcom not being adopted much by stuff like sphone | 14:45 |
| dsc_ | it is good to note I am speaking from a Qt GUI developer perspective and *not* a C systems engineer perspective. So, as a C developer, rtcom might be great, I am just used to operate in the 'Qt realm' so-to-speak. | 14:46 |
| dsc_ | the alternative I am proposing is to use Qt functionality (like their built-in sqlite adapter) in favor of me making progress | 14:47 |
| freemangordon | dsc_: just to let you know - the issue with OMP showing white window had nothing to do with mafw - it was buggy maemo style plugin | 14:48 |
| dsc_ | freemangordon: did you get video working? | 14:48 |
| freemangordon | http://95.43.220.235/mafw/OMP_02_05_2023_21_57_51.png | 14:48 |
| freemangordon | I didn;t try yet | 14:48 |
| dsc_ | nice :) | 14:48 |
| freemangordon | I don;t know how to tell it to open a video file :) | 14:51 |
| dsc_ | but regarding conversations, the scope is: | 14:57 |
| dsc_ | - chat application with Qt (QML) | 14:57 |
| dsc_ | - multiple protocols | 14:58 |
| dsc_ | - rtcom as db backend | 14:58 |
| dsc_ | in the "normal world" this project would require different expertises | 14:58 |
| dsc_ | I constantly hit obstacles, specifically in the telepathy/rtcom parts | 15:01 |
| dsc_ | this is problematic because 1) the C wizards cannot handhold 24/7 2) mixing glib with Qt is akward by definition 3) the scope is so large I cannot tell when conversations will be finished because it will become very complex (inherent to multi-protocol chat applications) | 15:06 |
| dsc_ | I fear Qt development is very much a different world than Maemo's GTK-based stuff | 15:11 |
| dsc_ | to offer some solutions/alternatives (and not just complain): | 15:11 |
| dsc_ | - possibly dail back the scope | 15:11 |
| dsc_ | - possibly dail back the hard requirement on rtcom | 15:11 |
| dsc_ | - someone dedicates their time to work *with me* so I can focus on more of the GUI/frontend parts of conversations (and someone else the backend) | 15:12 |
| dsc_ | I think it is standard to have someone work on frontend, and someone doing backend.. as knowing QML is totally different from figuring out some 15yo Nokia library | 15:28 |
| dsc_ | :-P | 15:28 |
| dsc_ | and of course we can also conclude I am not suited for the task, at which point someone else can takeover | 15:29 |
| dsc_ | anyway, thats my thoughts on current situation with conversations, bbl | 15:29 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: did you add the qscroller insert to the style? | 17:24 |
| freemangordon | yes | 18:27 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: let's talk tomorrow | 19:38 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: I am not sure auto adding QScroller to QGraphicsView is a good idea | 23:10 |
| Wizzup | where did I do this? | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | you don;t | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | I did, in style plugin | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | QGraphicsView is child of QAbstractScrollArea | 23:11 |
| freemangordon | and as a such it gets a kinetic scroll in maemo style plugin | 23:11 |
| Wizzup | hmm | 23:11 |
| freemangordon | the issue is with album art in omp | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | TBH it looks like a bug in OMP | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | because scrollbars are not disabled | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | I guess it behaved differently in qt4 | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | anyway, will see what I can do to fix in OMP | 23:14 |
| Wizzup | nokia had many hacks in qt4 | 23:42 |
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