| TxLogicGuy | It doesn't help. md auto assembly does not work with efi bios fake raid. | 02:01 |
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| TxLogicGuy | Which brings me back to: how can I capture the console messages that eudev spews out? | 02:18 |
| genr8eofl_ | use rc_log="yes" in openrc /etc/rc.conf and then read /var/log/rc.log | 02:45 |
| genr8eofl_ | or its in /var/log/messages maybe | 02:45 |
| genr8eofl_ | hmm thats not gonna be applicable if no root | 02:46 |
| genr8eofl_ | i guess you just need to do udevd --debug > log.txt | 02:47 |
| genr8eofl_ | find somewhere temprary store it | 02:47 |
| vivien | I wrapped PR 253 and 262-264 to update the eudev package on Guix, if you are curious! https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66099 | 16:37 |
| yann-kaelig | Hello | 16:54 |
| yann-kaelig | gentoo users here ? | 17:03 |
| yann-kaelig | I see | 17:05 |
| vivien | yann-kaelig, if you have a question to ask, please go ahead. If gentoo users come here, they might help you. Otherwise, how could they guess what question you want to ask them? | 17:10 |
| vivien | (the last sentence should be understood as "if you don’t ask, then how could they guess?") | 17:13 |
| yann-kaelig | Few days ago I asked some questions about eudev, unfortunately I didn't get an answer. Today I make a quick stopover to see the activity of the channel. | 17:15 |
| yann-kaelig | I have recognized a Gentoo user/developer | 17:16 |
| yann-kaelig | Maybe a hope to avoid permanent removal of eudev from Gentoo ? | 17:17 |
| bb|hcb | yann-kaelig: Sorry, I missed your original question - the reason #253 is not merged yet is that no one did review it. Also it is a kind of a drity fix - it does not implement all the current/non-current differentiation from systemd's udev | 17:25 |
| yann-kaelig | bb|hcb: Yes, I agree with your point of view and if I'm not mistaken I also asked how I can help and test the patched eudev. My bad if I didnt' ask it before, so is there a sequence of procedures that could validate the patch | 17:30 |
| bb|hcb | So far that patch is quite simple - it provides the missing ABI with an implementation that does not distinguish current tags | 17:31 |
| bb|hcb | That is enough to make stuff run, the only thing expected to break is when something relies on the current/non-current differentiation. I am not aware about such use case | 17:33 |
| yann-kaelig | bb|hcb: Mmm what do you mean by current/non-current differentation, I'm not an eudev expert but I'm interested to understand and what would be the problem concretely. | 17:41 |
| bb|hcb | Devices have tags. Tags are sticky. Recent udev introduced a flag if a tag is current (i.e. produced in the last run) | 17:43 |
| bb|hcb | vivien: I left some comments on #262 and #263; forgot to mention that man pages should be updated too... | 17:46 |
| vivien | bb|hcb, I’m working on it! I’m not used to man pages, but I will update them too. | 17:48 |
| yann-kaelig | bb|hcb: I'm not going to bother you any further, looking at some explanation, perhaps you know of a blog that would develop on the subject | 17:48 |
| bb|hcb | TBH I also do not know what is the point behind current/non-current tags :( | 17:48 |
| yann-kaelig | No problem. | 17:50 |
| yann-kaelig | Thank you for your answers and you help. It's really more pleasante when there is a little more activity here, it's alive ;) | 17:50 |
| yann-kaelig | We need, this is what allows eudev to stay alive among distributions that have not yet removed eudev from their calendars | 17:53 |
| yann-kaelig | +decide to removed | 17:54 |
| yann-kaelig | anyway, my bad for my low english ;) | 17:54 |
| bb|hcb | Don't worry, mine is non-native either | 17:56 |
| yann-kaelig | Where are you from ? | 17:57 |
| bb|hcb | vivien: About man pages, please only change the .xml files... I just had to fix a previous MR that changed udev.7 instead of udev.xml | 18:58 |
| vivien | bb|hcb, Should I regenerate udev.7 and udevadm.8 too? I don’t know how to do that | 18:59 |
| vivien | I see it’s using docbook but I’m not familiar at all | 18:59 |
| bb|hcb | see autogen.sh | 19:18 |
| vivien | Thank you, I regenerated the manual pages. | 19:42 |
| vivien | bb|hcb, don’t hesitate to reword my prose, I know I’m bad at English, sorry | 23:26 |
| vivien | Thank you anyway | 23:26 |
| bb|hcb | The bad wording was there from the start anyways... | 23:34 |
| bb|hcb | I left one comment, the overall change is much simpler now, thanks! | 23:37 |
| bb|hcb | Can you resolve it, or alternatively I can merge and fix it afterwards? | 23:38 |
| bb|hcb | Thanks! :) | 23:42 |
| bb|hcb | Can someone comment on PR #258, please? | 23:46 |
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