| Guest86 | How do I use eudev on debian, I built it but doesn't seem to be starting any service? | 12:09 |
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| Guest86 | I did ./configure; make; make install ... I am not seeing where to turn on the daemon ? | 12:12 |
| Guest86 | It seems to install correctly & I don't see any errors... | 12:14 |
| Guest86 | Can it work on debian? I have been searching for a solution to this online, but have not found one | 12:16 |
| bb|hcb | Debian uses systemd, which includes udev. eudev is made for os without systemd. You need to somehow stop/remive udev and start eudev | 12:18 |
| Guest86 | I know that, but you can install other init systems on debian(like openrc) & that seems to work fine ... also eudev is a fork of systemd udev right? | 12:20 |
| bb|hcb | yes, true | 12:21 |
| Guest86 | It builds without any error(at least I don't see any) | 12:21 |
| bb|hcb | Does it start? | 12:22 |
| bb|hcb | You can also check the Devuan package of eudev git.devuan.org/devuan/eudev | 12:23 |
| Guest86 | No I have yet to get it to start as a service ... Am I missing some step? | 12:23 |
| Guest86 | Is devuan a fork of debian? | 12:23 |
| bb|hcb | Derivate, the package is compatible | 12:24 |
| Guest86 | I built eudev version 3.2.12 ... | 12:26 |
| bb|hcb | Unless you start it, i do not see how it will work... Not sure how to do that with your init system | 12:26 |
| Guest86 | I do have openrc installed as my init system now :P | 12:27 |
| Guest86 | How do I use it with eudev ... To start it as a service? | 12:28 |
| bb|hcb | eudev does not include sysvinit/runit/openrc script, make one manually or get the one from devuan package | 12:29 |
| Guest86 | Ah ok | 12:29 |
| Guest86 | Why don't you guys include more scripts? | 12:30 |
| Guest86 | Seeing that debian has so many derivative systems(like devuan) ... | 12:34 |
| CyberTailor | Guest86: it's better to use udev extracted from systemd now | 12:36 |
| CyberTailor | eudev codebase is in fact in maintenance mode | 12:36 |
| CyberTailor | or mdev with libudev-zero | 12:37 |
| Guest86 | But I thought eudev was extracted from systemd.. | 12:37 |
| Guest86 | mdev with libudev-zero, that sounds interesting? | 12:38 |
| Guest86 | The only reason why I'm thinking about using eudev is because likely it's a haedache to try to use software(on debian) that might dependancy on systemd .. | 12:40 |
| Guest86 | And other plathora of systemd garbage ... | 12:41 |
| Guest86 | The bottle-neck in my system seems to be udev/eudev ... | 12:42 |
| CyberTailor | Guest86: eudev maintainer stepped down in 2021 | 12:43 |
| CyberTailor | libudev-zero is better maintained | 12:43 |
| Guest86 | But eudev seems to be maintained to some degree? | 12:44 |
| Guest86 | libudev-zero is that also a fork of udev? | 12:44 |
| CyberTailor | no, it's a daemon-less library | 12:45 |
| CyberTailor | Guest86: eudev is somewhat maintained, but it's stuck at udev-243 api | 12:47 |
| CyberTailor | https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev/issues/249 | 12:47 |
| Guest86 | It's funny that I'm starting to dislike systemd even more when I try to get rid of it | 12:47 |
| CyberTailor | it's easier to switch to BSDs as this point | 12:50 |
| Guest86 | To freebsd? | 12:50 |
| CyberTailor | openbsd, netbsd | 12:50 |
| Guest86 | Why not freebsd? | 12:51 |
| CyberTailor | just listing more options | 12:51 |
| Guest86 | Ah ok | 12:51 |
| Guest86 | Does bsd have a easy way to run linux apps? | 12:51 |
| Guest86 | Like somesort of virtualization? | 12:52 |
| CyberTailor | it's offtopic, so i'll pm you | 12:52 |
| Guest86 | Ok | 12:52 |
| bb|hcb | CyberTailor: Can you plese, point me to where is the udev extracted from systemd? | 13:35 |
| CyberTailor | https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/sys-apps/systemd-utils | 13:37 |
| Arsen | https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/sys-apps/systemd-utils/systemd-utils-253.8.ebuild#n308 | 13:37 |
| bb|hcb | Thanks, I got confused that there is a separate project. | 13:47 |
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