libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2025-04-21

neoncortexfirst off, I want to say this is great.  I'm experimenting with devuan, and it is great.  The only thing, and that is the same as debian, the repositories are a little poor.  For example, no qmplay2, and I'm curious about the packages: it uses the packages from debian?  Or they are made from scratch for devuan?09:22
rrqmost packages are directly from debian's repositories.09:27
rrqonly the forked packages are from devuan repository09:27
rrq-ies09:27
neoncortexI see.  Only the things that would require systemd, or the like.09:28
rrqyes. forked packagesa re made systemd-free09:29
neoncortexthat is cool, so I can keep using the things I have learned over the years.09:31
cousin_luigiWhat will happen should debian decide to drop multi-init?10:26
rrqplease keep this channel for support issues and use #devuan-offtopic for other discussions10:29
zmomentHi, I'm trying to install incus, but apt says that incus depends on qemu-system-x86 >= 1:8.0 but 1:7.2+dfsg is to be installed.  Anything I can do?  Or have to wait for some change?23:22
debdogis this on Testing/Excalibur or arebackports involved?23:25
zmomentOn Daedalus23:25
zmomentHad backports active in /etc/apt /sources.list, yes.23:27
debdogwhere did you get that package? I can't find it in the repos23:27
zmomentNow, that those backports lines were commented, apt cannot find incus.23:27
debdogI see23:27
zmomentIt seems I have to wait for a new version of Devuan.23:28
gnarfacehttps://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=%5Eincus%24&x=submit23:28
debdoghttps://backports.debian.org/changes/bullseye-backports.html hmm, package not thereeither23:28
gnarfacepkginfo says it's in daedalus-backports, excalibur and ceres23:29
gnarfacelogic dictates that the missing dependencies must also be in daedalus-backports23:29
debdogahhh https://backports.debian.org/changes/bookworm-backports.html my bad23:29
gnarfacezmoment: no, it doesn't look like you need to wait for a new release. it looks like you just need to also get qemu-system-x86 from daedalus-backports23:30
gnarfaceqemu-system-x86 1:9.2.2+ds-1~bpo12+1 present in daedalus-backports: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=%5Eqemu-system-x86%24&x=submit23:31
zmomentCan I choose that newer version of qemu-system?  Never done such.23:31
gnarfaceshould work, though i can't claim to have tried this version myself23:32
gnarfaceif the system is something mission critical you should always make a backup first of course just in case23:32
debdogjust do a try run, see what response/error you get23:32
debdog(with aptitude that would be option -s (--simulate))23:34
gnarfacei would expect it requires getting all of the qemu components from there as well23:34
zmomentI could install incus (and qemu-system).  Thank you very much, gnarface and debdog!23:40
zmomentAnd learned something new today.23:40
debdog\o/23:41
gnarfaceno problem zmoment23:50

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