| fsmithred | I think it has issues with policykit or related stuff | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ximon | I accidentally removed and purged a running sddm | 00:00 |
| ximon | not good? | 00:00 |
| fsmithred | once you leave that session you won't be able to start sddm again | 00:01 |
| ximon | I just wanted to test lightdm | 00:01 |
| ximon | :) | 00:01 |
| fsmithred | if you install kde from the installer, you'll get lightdm | 00:02 |
| fsmithred | the deps are listed as: lightdm | slim | sddm | 00:03 |
| ximon | how to install steam in devuan? | 00:09 |
| ximon | I tried steam-installer | 00:09 |
| fsmithred | I don't know the answer to that. My game is freecell. | 00:11 |
| tempforever | my game is mod3 (in kpat) | 03:05 |
| devuanconsumer | is devuan 5 now using pipewire instead of pulse audio? Has anyone test to see if the latency issues are gone? | 03:40 |
| devuanconsumer | Also what user interface is being used for pipewire now? | 03:41 |
| rustyaxe | unsure if its the default, but as a matter of policy i replace poopaudio with pipwire immediately on installing, qpwgraph works well for plumbing it, if you dont mind some QT in your life | 03:49 |
| devuanconsumer | how do you set your sampling rate to 48khz and buffer size to 256? | 03:53 |
| devuanconsumer | how do you install pipewire on devuan 4? what do i install and uninstall? | 03:54 |
| devuanconsumer | is there anything similar to the pulse audio volume control interface for pipewire? I'd like to see the input and output devices, recording, configuration and playback with the ability to get fallbacks and control volume | 03:56 |
| devuanconsumer | please explain how to install pipewire for devuan | 04:41 |
| debdog | ... | 04:44 |
| debdog | https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire#Debian_12 | 04:44 |
| debdog | https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire#Debian_12 | 04:46 |
| debdog | and https://itslinuxfoss.com/install-pipewire-debian-12/ has some hints | 04:46 |
| debdog | devuanconsumer: ^ | 04:46 |
| debdog | I think wireplumber is key | 04:46 |
| devuanconsumer | yeah i saw those but every time i follow some guide for debian i always get stuck for hours with the lame systemctl instructions | 04:47 |
| debdog | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867 | 04:48 |
| devuanconsumer | you are the man | 04:50 |
| * debdog pets ddg ;) | 04:51 | |
| devuanconsumer | how can i add the lines to .xsessionrc? | 04:56 |
| devuanconsumer | im using cinnamon with my desktop | 04:58 |
| debdog | read further down. there are better solutions listed | 04:58 |
| debdog | like https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=48400#p48400 | 04:59 |
| debdog | but I am not certain these are still required | 05:00 |
| devuanconsumer | rustyaxe: can you help me install pipewire? I installed all packages and it's not working, also pavucontrol says its "establishing connection please wait". Debodog sent me these instructiosn but i'm not sure how to added those commands to xsessionrc | 06:02 |
| devuanconsumer | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867 | 06:02 |
| devuanconsumer | fsmithred: please help me install pipewire. I already followed those directions and no sound | 06:11 |
| debdog | devuanconsumer: give me a day, I'll look into it. but I think you're overthinking it. | 07:22 |
| debdog | can you give me three or more progs you intend to use regarding sound | 07:24 |
| Guest51 | how to get telegram on devuan? | 08:58 |
| Guest51 | good morning | 08:58 |
| Guest51 | I am ximon btw | 08:58 |
| debdog | Guest51: just a guess. package telegram-desktop | 09:00 |
| debdog | https://desktop.telegram.org/ | 09:00 |
| Guest51 | seems to not be in devuan repository | 09:01 |
| Guest51 | simon@simon:~$ sudo apt search telegram-desktop | 09:01 |
| Guest51 | simon@simon:~$ | 09:01 |
| Guest51 | oh maybe because I am on excalibur? | 09:02 |
| debdog | contrib non-free enabled? | 09:02 |
| Guest51 | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware | 09:03 |
| Guest51 | yes | 09:03 |
| debdog | it is missing in debian testing right now. | 09:04 |
| Guest51 | thats the reason then :D | 09:04 |
| debdog | then look at the link | 09:04 |
| debdog | download it there | 09:05 |
| Guest51 | dpkg --add-architecture i386 | 09:05 |
| Guest51 | && apt-get update && apt install steam-installer is that sufficient to make steam work? | 09:05 |
| Guest51 | zenity:4021): Gtk-WARNING **: 09:06:35.698: Unknown key gtk-modules in /home/simon/.config/gtk-4.0/settings.ini | 09:06 |
| Guest51 | gtk warnings can be ignored I guess (the app has just started) | 09:08 |
| ximon | is this irc connected to the telegram chat? because yesterday I thought speaking to fsmithred in telegram | 09:59 |
| ximon | through irc | 09:59 |
| ximon | lol | 09:59 |
| gnarface | ximon: no bridge bots here as far as i know | 10:18 |
| gnarface | beware of imposters | 10:18 |
| ximon | gnarface no devuanorg telegramchannelß | 10:38 |
| ximon | how to get sound lol | 10:47 |
| gnarface | well, for starters stick around longer after asking the actual question... | 10:58 |
| ximon | can I do a mix with devuan testing and devuan unstable? | 11:15 |
| ximon | to yeet the telegram-desktop pkg | 11:16 |
| debdog | uhm, why not just fetch it from https://desktop.telegram.org/ extract the archive and run the binary inside it? I bet that is much less a hassle than mixing testing with unstable. (I know, I just did that) | 11:19 |
| ximon | but is it the same like testing unstable mix on debian? | 11:20 |
| debdog | dunno. I just run the Telegram binary. | 11:21 |
| ximon | like this /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20-tum.conf APT::Default-Release "/^excalibur(|-security|-updates)$/"; | 11:21 |
| ximon | debdog can you help me setting it up? :D | 11:25 |
| debdog | ximon: what? | 11:28 |
| ximon | testing unstable mix? | 11:29 |
| debdog | no | 11:29 |
| debdog | I don't even dare run testing | 11:29 |
| ximon | debdog nevermind I found out | 11:30 |
| ximon | like this /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20-tum.conf APT::Default-Release "/^excalibur(|-security|-updates)$/"; this actually works | 11:30 |
| ximon | now I need to know how I can install from other source with debian excalibur | 11:31 |
| ximon | xd | 11:31 |
| debdog | like ... -t <Release> | 11:32 |
| ximon | why dont you dare to touch excalibur? | 11:33 |
| debdog | if I would like rolling releases I would not have settled for debian/devuan | 11:33 |
| ximon | debdog what do I need to install to get sound? | 11:37 |
| ximon | :D | 11:37 |
| debdog | alsa | 11:37 |
| ximon | alsa-firmware-loaders/testing this one? | 11:38 |
| debdog | sorry, I better keep out there. no clue about testing | 11:39 |
| ximon | brb | 11:40 |
| debdog | (which also raises the question, what kind of install did ximon run to not have audio?) | 11:40 |
| ximon | alsa-utils pavucontroll and pulseaudio you need | 11:43 |
| * avir327 remembers that sometimes missing audio could be fixed simply by checking alsamixer (channel volume or mute switch) | 12:33 | |
| avir327 | I also had audio issues, when the dedicated sound card needed the same kernel module as hdmi audio. | 12:45 |
| ximon | fsmithred is devuanorg official from devuan | 13:29 |
| ximon | the people in there seem like trolls | 13:29 |
| ximon | and they use your names | 13:29 |
| ximon | in telegram | 13:29 |
| ximon | they are telling me to use ceres instead of excalibur not sure if that is really your channel | 13:31 |
| ximon | lol | 13:31 |
| fsmithred | ximon, hi | 13:33 |
| fsmithred | you can use both. Install excalibur and then add ceres repo, but pin it to lower priority. | 13:33 |
| ximon | not so suspicious anylonger you responded when I asked you to respond :D | 13:33 |
| ximon | so the telegram is not a troll telegram channel? | 13:34 |
| fsmithred | then if you need something from ceres, you can install it with 'apt -t ceres install <package>' | 13:34 |
| fsmithred | oh, I'm pretty sure there are some trolls there | 13:34 |
| fsmithred | maybe two or three different names who are the same individual | 13:34 |
| fsmithred | but there really is irc bridge to the telegram channel and there are a few devuan devs on it | 13:35 |
| fsmithred | does it say devuanorg when I say something in the telegram channel? | 13:36 |
| fsmithred | here, the irc channel is called #devuan-bridge | 13:36 |
| fsmithred | and I understand it will stop working soon. I don't know the details. | 13:37 |
| ximon | any idea how to get discover work? :D | 14:04 |
| ximon | wait there was another tool to install and uninstall stuff? | 14:04 |
| buZz | there are many frontends for apt, 'aptitude' is one | 14:08 |
| ximon | if I want to remove the pkgs from kde-full but want to keep the dependencies and kde-standart what do I have to do ? | 14:41 |
| ximon | just apt remove kde-full and apt install kde-standart that is a bit weird way | 14:44 |
| avir327 | ximon: you can use debfoster for that (assuming that kde-full and kde-standard are both meta-packages and "full" depends on "standard") | 14:57 |
| avir327 | just hit 'r'emove for the metapackage and debfoster will ask you again for its dependancies. | 14:57 |
| avir327 | 'p'urge would remove the meta-package with all dependencies | 14:58 |
| avir327 | (at once) | 14:58 |
| devuanconsumer | i am trying to run ffp's script, do I need to replace usr with the name of my devuan account? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867&p=2 | 15:47 |
| devuanconsumer | ah never mind i don't | 15:49 |
| devuanconsumer | Hi guys i got pipewire working. I ran ffp's script anfter installing all the necessary packages. It's found here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867&p=2 | 16:04 |
| devuanconsumer | does anyone know how to run a command to check for xruns from the terminal with pipewire? | 16:04 |
| gnarface | i would assume aplay or arecord would still default to dumping messages about such to stderr | 16:22 |
| gnarface | you may need to generate some system load to make sure they won't appear when you're not otherwise idle though | 16:22 |
| devuanconsumer | how do I use the commands? I tried aplay -r and arecord --rate=# without success | 16:25 |
| gnarface | what do you mean "without success?" | 16:29 |
| gnarface | as in, there were no underruns? | 16:29 |
| gnarface | aplay plays wav files | 16:30 |
| gnarface | try this: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav | 16:30 |
| gnarface | does it make a sound? does it spit errors to the console? | 16:30 |
| gnarface | you can also test like this: speaker-test -c 2 -t wav | 16:34 |
| gnarface | or like this: speaker-test -c 2 -t sine | 16:37 |
| gnarface | or like this, if you have a mic: arecord | aplay | 16:37 |
| gnarface | (change the value of -c to the number of speakers you have) | 16:42 |
| devuanconsumer | oh it works thanks! | 16:48 |
| gnarface | no problem | 16:53 |
| devuanconsumer | do you know if there is a command to test latency with buffer size and sample rate? | 17:11 |
| gnarface | aplay will take command-line options for all that. check the man page | 17:13 |
| fsmithred | you want to see how changing those values affects latency? | 17:13 |
| devuanconsumer | yes | 17:17 |
| devuanconsumer | yes fssmithred | 17:17 |
| fsmithred | run qjacktctl and change the values - it will change the value in the latency box automatically | 17:23 |
| devuanconsumer | ok thanks | 17:29 |
| devuanconsumer | i decided to use RTL utility instead of install jackqtl | 18:57 |
| devuanconsumer | my audio is workign perfectly now with pipewire and now i know how to change the buffer size and sample rate in the conf. Thank you all! | 18:57 |
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