| gnarface | debdog: same for this sosmlg person | 00:47 |
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| debdog | yeah, no comment. :D | 00:48 |
| debdog | undead.exe | 00:49 |
| debdog | that aside, not even a question was asked, hrhrr | 00:51 |
| al1r4d | let me ask, debdog | 03:17 |
| al1r4d | What happened with the Devuan mailing lists? I haven't gotten any new messages since 26 February 2025. | 03:18 |
| metala | al1r4d: I think the server was running out of space and they were to move it to Devuan's infra, but I don't know the status. | 03:33 |
| al1r4d | metala: yeah, you are right | 03:34 |
| al1r4d | i remember this from # devuan-bridge | 03:34 |
| al1r4d | <jaromil_dyne> mates, regarding the mailinglist problems reported, our list server is very full and we'd need to change its hosting, also considering dyne doesn't uses it anymore so its just devuan's lists running on it. It is easy to move (LXD/Incus VM) so we kindly ask if it can be moved over one of Devuan's servers. | 03:34 |
| Xenguy | I think there's an infrastructure migration in progress | 03:42 |
| rwp | Dyne has a continuing misconfiguration of DNS that is out of reach of the Devuan devs to fix which is blocking all incoming mailing list mail. | 03:43 |
| rwp | This happened unscheduled and as a surprise and so now the Devuan devs are reacting with a mad scramble. | 03:44 |
| debdog | al1r4d: sorry, you've lost me | 04:05 |
| rwp | debdog, I am sure al1r4d is referring to the mailing lists being broken. All mail to them is rejected due to a DNS misconfiguration querying Spamhaus using public DNS (such as 8.8.8.8 like) instead of their own DNS query address causing Spamhaus to reject the query causing lists.dyne.org to reject all incoming email. | 06:19 |
| djph | oops | 10:05 |
| taylan | What hosting do y'all use? You can get a dedicated managed server with very good hardware and 1 TB of disk space for like 50 bucks a month... | 17:46 |
| taylan | Seems strange that the disk would fill up, but I guess the server may be hosting more than just mailing lists, in which case understandable. | 17:47 |
| fsmithred | dyne hosts the mailing lists and they've been around a lot longer than devuan has existed. | 17:48 |
| metala | I am intending to switch sysvinit -> openrc. Would it be painless? | 21:22 |
| rwp | metala, "Should be." Most of us are happy to run sysvinit and so just haven't used openrc or runit very much. But it should work. And if you have problems we will help you work through them. We WANT init freedom to work and will help with that goal. | 21:38 |
| rwp | Note that most packages provide init scripts and therefore openrc and runit and the others are still running the same init scripts making it pretty much the same either way. The main differences are the interface utilities used to interact with them. | 21:39 |
| metala | I use runit on my servers, but on the portable PC I had some issues with it. I really don't need to switch from sysvinit, just "init freedom" and remembering some Gentoo times. I will try that and if there are any issues the following days. | 21:55 |
| metala | ... I will report here. | 22:28 |
| fsmithred | runit in debian/devuan does have some run scripts and will use any you create and enable. | 22:34 |
| metala | yes, but there are some issues with sleeping and LUKS shutdown. I decided to switch back to sysvinit. Now I am feeling like switching to openrc, which should be 100% compatible with sysvinit. | 22:38 |
| metala | If I feel a bit more adventurous, I could try running my teacher's minimal `ninit` :) He used run it on slackware. | 22:40 |
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