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| yeti | al1r4d: you know allrat drive? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/69/28/da69283c3cb02a9755ed22e19d6f0791.jpg | 07:54 |
| al1r4d | yeti: nope xD | 11:15 |
| al1r4d | i wonder what english version for the picture | 11:15 |
| matteobin | Hello! I'm migrating right now from Bookworm to Devuan. | 11:32 |
| matteobin | I would like to install base-files=12.4devuan3, but apt-get says it can't find the specified package. Should I install the 12.4+deb12u7devuan1 version? | 11:35 |
| matteobin | I'm reading the migration guide at devuan.org. | 11:37 |
| matteobin | https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/bookworm-to-daedalus | 11:38 |
| matteobin | Sorry, I had to reboot. | 11:55 |
| matteobin | How do I install wine32 on Devuan? I'm getting some apt errors. | 12:06 |
| matteobin | Sorry for the spam. I'm just new to Devuan. I really appreciate your effort. | 12:11 |
| gnarface | matteobin: don't just install wine32; you're supposed to install wine which will install both 32-bit and 64-bit, and then just control which one wine uses for any particular wine prefix by setting the WINEARCH environment variable | 12:26 |
| matteobin | Oh, thank you! | 12:27 |
| gnarface | that said however, the wine package is a kinda old version of wine, if you need support for certain AAA titles you probably need to resort to the winehq "wine-staging" packages | 12:27 |
| matteobin | No problem: I just need wine to test cli applications I compile for Windows from Devuan. | 12:28 |
| gnarface | set WINEARCH="win64" or WINEARCH="win32" as appropriate at WINEPREFIX creation | 12:31 |
| gnarface | there was a FAQ somewhere on all these useful environment variables but i can't seem to find the link for you right now | 12:32 |
| matteobin | gnarface: Uhm... when I type apt-get install wine, apt doesn't install wine32 automatically. | 12:40 |
| gnarface | you sure? that's odd... | 12:41 |
| gnarface | did you type "apt-get update" first? | 12:41 |
| gnarface | oh, maybe you need multi-arch enabled first | 12:41 |
| matteobin | You mean dpkg --add-architecture i386? | 12:43 |
| gnarface | what do you get for the output of "dpkg --print-architecture" and "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" ...? | 12:43 |
| gnarface | yea, do that if you haven't already | 12:43 |
| matteobin | I'm on amd64. | 12:43 |
| matteobin | I've got i386 as a foreign architecture. | 12:43 |
| gnarface | that's fine, and it's probably only gonna work if you actually installed the amd64 version, the point is you can do both at once | 12:43 |
| gnarface | ok, so that seems right | 12:43 |
| gnarface | try "apt-get update" i guess... last i checked it would have pulled them both in automatically... | 12:44 |
| gnarface | are you on daedalus? | 12:44 |
| matteobin | Yes. | 12:44 |
| gnarface | using deb.devuan.org as your mirror? | 12:44 |
| matteobin | Which should be the latest stable, right? | 12:44 |
| matteobin | Exactly. | 12:44 |
| gnarface | correct | 12:44 |
| gnarface | deb.devuan.org/merged right? | 12:44 |
| matteobin | Yes. | 12:45 |
| gnarface | not deb.devuan.org/debian or deb.devuan.org/devuan | 12:45 |
| matteobin | http://deb.devuan.org/merged | 12:45 |
| gnarface | did you try the "apt-get update" and get the same result? | 12:45 |
| matteobin | Yes. | 12:45 |
| matteobin | Recommended packages: wine32 | 12:45 |
| matteobin | The following NEW packages will be installed: fonts-wine gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-x libcapi20-3 libcdparanoia0 libdv4 libodbc2 libosmesa6 libshout3 libv4l-0 libv4lconvert0 libvisual-0.4-0 libwine libz-mingw-w64 wine wine64 | 12:45 |
| matteobin | If I try to manually install wine32 I get a lot of errors. | 12:46 |
| gnarface | in your /etc/apt/sources.list, make sure you have lines for daedalus-updates and daedalus-security not just daedalus | 12:46 |
| gnarface | you should have 3 lines not one | 12:46 |
| gnarface | (or 6 if you're also using deb-src) | 12:46 |
| matteobin | I've got both updates and security and backports as well. | 12:47 |
| matteobin | I've got src as well. | 12:47 |
| gnarface | you've installed backports? | 12:47 |
| matteobin | Nope. | 12:47 |
| gnarface | could be a package conflict with something from backports, usually in that case you're probably supposed to get the backports version but you have to add "-t daedalus-backports" | 12:48 |
| matteobin | Let me check. | 12:48 |
| gnarface | dpkg -l |grep bpo | 12:48 |
| gnarface | backports package names will contain "bpo" in the version string | 12:48 |
| gnarface | package versions from other releases can also cause similar issues | 12:48 |
| gnarface | like if you had an incomplete upgrade from a previous release, or installed packages from a newer release | 12:49 |
| matteobin | I've got some backports installed | 12:49 |
| gnarface | (or from another distro) | 12:49 |
| gnarface | is there also wine packages in backports? | 12:49 |
| matteobin | I migrated from Bookworkm this morning. | 12:49 |
| matteobin | Nope, no wine packages in backports. | 12:49 |
| matteobin | *Bookworm | 12:50 |
| gnarface | ah... did you remember to do "apt-get dist-upgrade" or did you just do "apt-get upgrade" ? | 12:50 |
| gnarface | how many bpo packages? anything important you can't just re-download? you might need to purge those first to make it work | 12:50 |
| matteobin | I followed the procedure here. <https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/bookworm-to-daedalus> | 12:50 |
| gnarface | then reinstall them after | 12:50 |
| matteobin | I'll purge backports. | 12:50 |
| gnarface | i recommend commenting out the backports line except when you're explicitly using it to install something, so it doesn't get used accidentally later | 12:51 |
| gnarface | and be judicious about what you get from there | 12:51 |
| gnarface | it's not all as well tested as the stock stuff | 12:51 |
| matteobin | In Debian you have to explicitly tell to install from backports. | 12:52 |
| matteobin | Isn't the same in Devuan? | 12:53 |
| fsmithred | yes | 12:54 |
| fsmithred | the default priority of bpo is lower than the main repos, so you have to specify it. | 12:54 |
| matteobin | No sorry. | 12:56 |
| matteobin | The only bpo I have is yt-dlp. | 12:56 |
| matteobin | I got libpo because of the grep command, but wasn't from backports. | 12:57 |
| matteobin | All backports packages have the ~bpo version name, right? | 12:58 |
| fsmithred | yes | 12:58 |
| matteobin | I've got only yt-dlp. Should I remove it? | 12:59 |
| matteobin | That's the error I get, trying to install wine32. | 12:59 |
| matteobin | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 12:59 |
| matteobin | e2fsprogs : PreDepends: libblkid1 (>= 2.36) but it is not installable | 12:59 |
| matteobin | Recommends: e2fsprogs-l10n but it is not going to be installed | 12:59 |
| matteobin | init : PreDepends: sysvinit-core but it is not going to be installed or | 12:59 |
| matteobin | runit-init but it is not going to be installed | 12:59 |
| fsmithred | does it have any dependencies that are also in bpo? | 12:59 |
| matteobin | libglib2.0-0 : Depends: libmount1 (>= 2.35.2-7~) but it is not installable | 12:59 |
| matteobin | Recommends: shared-mime-info | 12:59 |
| matteobin | util-linux : PreDepends: libblkid1 (>= 2.37.2) but it is not installable | 12:59 |
| matteobin | PreDepends: libmount1 (>= 2.38) but it is not installable | 12:59 |
| matteobin | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | 12:59 |
| matteobin | Nope. | 12:59 |
| fsmithred | too many lines will sometimes get you booted from the room by our bot. | 13:00 |
| fsmithred | better to use paste.debian.net | 13:00 |
| matteobin | Sorry. | 13:00 |
| matteobin | I didn't mean to be rude. | 13:00 |
| matteobin | Forgive me. | 13:00 |
| fsmithred | yes, of course | 13:00 |
| fsmithred | easy enough to remove it and add later | 13:01 |
| fsmithred | just to be sure | 13:01 |
| matteobin | Ok! | 13:01 |
| fsmithred | anyway, I have to go. Good luck with it. | 13:01 |
| matteobin | Thank you! | 13:02 |
| matteobin | I've found this bug. Maybe it's related, but I can't understand its conclusion. https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=744 | 13:02 |
| matteobin | Same problem, even without yt-dlp. | 13:03 |
| matteobin | :( | 13:06 |
| matteobin | I guess I won't use wine32. I'm going to have lunch. I'll be back in a hour. Thank you for your help. :) | 13:07 |
| matteobin | I'm back from lunch! | 14:03 |
| matteobin | Anyway I'm still unable to install wine32. :( | 14:09 |
| matteobin | Maybe it's related to the fact that I've installed 12.4+deb12u7devuan1? | 14:11 |
| matteobin | Solved it! | 15:04 |
| matteobin | The problem was that Devuan hasn't got the last Debian update yet! | 15:04 |
| matteobin | So during the migration some packages remained the Debian ones, but newer. That screwed the wine32 installation up. | 15:05 |
| gnarface | matteobin: there's sometimes a couple hours delay | 15:29 |
| matteobin | It's way more than that! | 15:34 |
| matteobin | Debian 12.8 was released in November. | 15:34 |
| matteobin | However 12.8 is still in the Devuan proposed updates queque. | 15:35 |
| matteobin | I'm not complaining. | 15:36 |
| matteobin | I'm very grateful for Devuan existence. | 15:37 |
| gnarface | hmm | 15:39 |
| matteobin | Why does udenix ping out so hard? | 17:35 |
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