libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2024-12-08

FatPhil777 is even more evil than 666!00:04
coppola_hi00:04
FatPhilhi!00:05
FatPhilnot all of your movies were great00:05
FatPhilnot sure which coppola it is, so hedging00:05
golinuxTake it to OT, please00:07
FatPhilaccepted, sorry00:53
CueXXIIIuh, the new libdbus-1-dev packaage in ceres not depends on libsystemd-dev, is that intentional?11:35
amarsh04I noticed that also CueXXIII12:15
amarsh04in the meantime I have upgraded to KDE plasma 612:15
amarsh04back after logging out and logging in again12:20
amarsh04less painful than many KDE Plasma updates12:22
amarsh04main problem with KDE Plasma 6.X was having to find a different weather widget compatible with plasma 6.x13:15
claponthi, everyone!17:43
debdogahoy!17:49
clapontcould someone tell, if I switch to Devuan (to get rid of systemD, yes) how would be with the packages? the /etc/apt/sources.list from Devuan differs to the one from Debian (by hostname) but how about the number of packages? I used debian in the last years because Debian has the largest pool - how about Devuan? I know both are .deb related but when it goes to dependecies... the things may end in a systemd17:51
clapontrelated therefore preventing me to use that .deb taken from Debian.. thank you.17:51
hagbardDevuan has mostly the very same packages as Debian.17:52
hagbardSome packages in Devuan are forked to no longer depend on systemd.17:53
clapontthis is great news! I read that Daedalus is based on Bookworm but I did not know how many of the packages could be still used; say 80% ? I know "the source" way just in case17:54
hagbardAs long as a Debian package does not explicitly depend on systemd, it will most likely work in Devuan too.17:55
gnarfaceclapont: there's over 60,000 packages in debian for x86/amd64, and last i checked devuan was only missing about 180 of them17:55
clapontI understand that Davuan has the latest Bookwork kernel too? How about zfs, is it included? I'm looking for a fde zfs -if anyone knows/met any caveats17:55
hagbardThe kernel is the very same.17:56
gnarfaceafaik zfs should be the same too17:56
clapontgnarface: wow! thank you very much! I'm downloading as we speak :-)17:56
claponthagbard: thank you to you too :-)17:56
gnarfaceclapont: well, maybe more than 180, since some of these are split into several packages, but as you can see, it's still way more than just 80%: http://deb.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt17:58
clapontI was thinking over Arch before coming here, Arch has wonderful wiki but it's a rolling release, which I'd like to avoid17:59
clapontI mean, I know that updates are done from time to time but if I want to install a small package, I'd have to update the whole system which may bring some uknown hiccups somewhere else, to be found know-knows-when18:01
clapontw18:03
gnarfacei think you came to the right place18:05
golinuxclapont: This is how the magic merge with Debian repos is accomplished:  https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=319218:11
clapontgolinux: great tool, I did not know about it, thank you.18:16

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