| paculino | Is there something going on with packages related to curl? A backports update has been available for them for some time it appears, yet they aren't updating and are not shown as marked hold | 05:20 |
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| gnarface | usually backports is just for important updates that break the distro's compatibility rules for the stable release | 05:32 |
| gnarface | completely normal | 05:32 |
| rrq | paculino: the default apt policy puts backports packages at priprity 100 which is the same priority as installed packages; therefore apt will not consider it an update candidate | 05:56 |
| paculino | Okay, thank you. I thought it would update because it is recommended for yt-dlp, which I keep updated from backports | 05:57 |
| davidseville | how do I install devuan? | 18:45 |
| fsmithred | davidseville, have you ever installed debian? We use the same installer. | 18:51 |
| fsmithred | This might help: https://www.devuan.org/os/install | 18:52 |
| outofcreativity | fsmithred: while poking around, I saw that a gtk installer is build. I remember reading that this is unsupported, is this still true for Daedalus? | 21:34 |
| gnarface | i don't recall hearing anything about a "gtk installer" | 21:36 |
| gnarface | you got a link to such a thing? | 21:36 |
| outofcreativity | err, i mean graphical installer, like debian | 21:40 |
| outofcreativity | i'll grab the link, just a sec | 21:40 |
| outofcreativity | https://ftp.fau.de/devuan/devuan/dists/daedalus/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/gtk/ | 21:42 |
| outofcreativity | boot the iso or pxe boot the netboot files | 21:43 |
| gnarface | ah, interesting. i don't know then. what do you need this for that the regular netinstall iso can't do though? | 21:43 |
| gnarface | if in doubt, you should probably just use this one: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_daedalus/installer-iso/devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_netinstall.iso | 21:44 |
| gnarface | ncurses mode isn't functionally different from the old graphical mode i remember | 21:45 |
| gnarface | just not as pretty | 21:45 |
| rwp | If you want a GUI then the refracta installer is probably the GUI way. I very much prefer the terminal installer. It's so much easier and faster to use. Just arrow keys and Enter and just blast through it in a couple of moments. | 21:45 |
| outofcreativity | i know, thanks. i use the ncurses installer, i was just poking around the server, grabbing files for pxe booting | 21:46 |
| gnarface | we don't get many PXE users around here, but the last time one came through i'm pretty sure the normal stuff did work for them the same way as in debian | 21:48 |
| gnarface | might be the type of thing where you'll be the first one to report testing it for daedalus though | 21:49 |
| rwp | AFAIK there nothing has changed recently with respect to PXE boot configurations. Mine is a little stale now and I have been thinking I need to update and expand it. But it works the same now as it has always worked. | 21:52 |
| outofcreativity | I haven't done much with PXE lately, but I want to test debian on an old machine and don't want to fiddle with cds or usb sticks :) | 21:55 |
| outofcreativity | in the past it worked well with debian, not yet tried devuan tho | 21:56 |
| gnarface | yea, shouldn't be any different for devuan. give it a try and let us know. | 21:56 |
| devuanconsumer | I don't understand why my Brother_HL-L2395DW_series printer works perfectly on one computer but not the other. When I go to "http://localhost:631/printers/" It shows the printer as "idle" on the working computer but on the computer where it's not working it shows the printer as "Processing - "Waiting for printer to become available." | 21:57 |
| devuanconsumer | any ideas? | 21:57 |
| outofcreativity | gnarface: will do | 21:57 |
| devuanconsumer | I checked that the cups packages are installed on both computers and they're the same | 21:57 |
| rwp | Never give your printer any hints that you are in a rush. It can smell fear. | 21:57 |
| gnarface | devuanconsumer: maybe there's a job in the local queue for the non-working one that was started before you properly configured the printer there? | 21:58 |
| onefang | lol | 21:58 |
| outofcreativity | devuan: have you tried a power cyle of the printer? | 21:58 |
| gnarface | devuanconsumer: dig through the config menus carefully, make sure the printer address matches the one that's working and it's set to be the default printer | 21:59 |
| onefang | rwp: That sounded like my brother, the printer repair tech of our family, only he worked for Xerox, not Brother. | 21:59 |
| rwp | devuanconsumer, Are both of your computers 32-bit systems? AFAIK the Brother driver is a 32-bit driver only. | 21:59 |
| devuanconsumer | I figured it out, i simply deleted the current brother printer and readded them it the network | 22:00 |
| devuanconsumer | I love it when I ask a question and then figure it out ! | 22:00 |
| onefang | Cool. | 22:00 |
| devuanconsumer | thank you as always gnarface | 22:00 |
| rwp | I have a client with a Brother printer and they ONLY supported the 32-bit driver for Ubuntu 16.04. To make things work I created an Ubuntu 16.04 Virtual Machine to be a print spooler. And that's the way it works to the present day. | 22:00 |
| gnarface | np | 22:01 |
| rwp | What I said only applies to USB interfaces. If it is a network printer then nevermind as the IPP driver should work. | 22:01 |
| gnarface | heh, i just put my Brother printer in "HP emulation mode" and use the HP LaserJet 6 driver | 22:02 |
| gnarface | much nicer :) | 22:02 |
| gnarface | practically a drop-in replacement for the HP LaserJet i was using before | 22:02 |
| onefang | I just avoid printers, that's my bro's gig. I do have one here, a ticket printer that belongs to an old client that hasn't bothered to pick it up. I wrote the driver for it for his embedded system. | 22:03 |
| rwp | Rage against the Machine was never really specific about which type of machine they were furious with but I think it was probably a printer. | 22:06 |
| gnarface | hehe | 22:06 |
| onefang | lol | 22:06 |
| Xenguy | PC LETTER LOAD?! WTF?!? | 22:10 |
| Xenguy | <cut to gangsta hiphop> | 22:11 |
| fsmithred | outofcreativity, yes, there is a graphical installer in one of the mini isos in the debian-installer tree. The mini.iso may or may not work for you. It has only the bare minimum. No firmware packages or other stuff that you might need. | 23:10 |
| fsmithred | and the graphical d-i sucks. | 23:11 |
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