libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2024-08-21

rrqaswjrisp: did you set up a boot partition upon installation? Is it UEFI bios or legacy bios?01:13
gnarfacecould it be this? https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/08/21/0031243/something-has-gone-seriously-wrong-dual-boot-systems-warn-after-microsoft-update03:00
obeardlyHello all, does anyone here have a Devuan friendly groupware server they would recommend?04:40
fluffywolfgnarface: finally, something that makes me think secure boot is a good idea...  implementing a mechanism to prevent one OS from modifying the boot process of another!04:42
fluffywolfwindows shouldn't be able to affect linux booting.04:44
gnarfaceobeardly: no, i don't, but i'm told that google docs and office 365 both work just as well in firefox on linux as they do in firefox on any other OS04:52
gnarfacethe distro shouldn't matter at all, but firefox version and your installed font selection might matter a little04:52
obeardlygnarface: I'm thinking open-source, self-hosted email and calendar, although office apps would be appreciated as well.04:53
gnarfaceeh, i think thunderbird has shared calendar features, but i don't think they're very popular04:54
gnarfaceemail isn't special, you can self host that with one of a dozen or so options on devuan04:54
gnarfacelikewise with file sharing04:54
obeardlyI'm looking at platforms like Citadel and Zimbra. All in one groupware solutions.04:55
gnarfaceif you have to work with documents from Windows, you'll probably want this package: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=core.*fonts&x=submit04:55
obeardlyMost of these platforms require systemd unless you want to be writing your own init scrips.04:55
gnarfacewe have a package called orphan-sysvinit-scripts to cover that04:56
gnarfaceif you find a daemon without an init script and it's also missing from this package... notify someone around here (not me)04:57
obeardlygnarface: This is a list of the type of application suites I'm looking at: https://www.devopsschool.com/blog/list-of-top-free-open-source-self-hosted-application-for-groupware/04:57
gnarfaceobeardly: it's not really something i've got a lot of experience with, but stick around for a while and someone else might04:59
gnarfaceyou also might want to join #devuan-offtopic05:00
obeardlyI've set up quite a few in the past, but that was before Devuan, on Debian.05:00
obeardlyNow everyone bows to the systemd overlords. Most flat out will not work without systemd.05:01
gnarfacewell, like i said, someone around here will add missing init scripts to "orphan-sysvinit-scripts" if that's all that it takes05:01
obeardlyIt's actually much more complicated than that because they are baking systemd into the core functionality of the suites now.05:01
gnarfaceoh, i know, but it's gonna take more than one volunteer's free time to fix that05:02
obeardlyI agree, hence why I was asking if anyone knew of a Devuan friendly groupware suite.05:02
gnarfacewhile i don't know, my instinct is that most people around here either roll their own or work alone05:03
obeardlyI would concur with that statement.05:04
gnarfacei suppose you could also try getting one working with systemd-shim, but it seems to have been removed from the distro 3 releases ago, so i'm not sure if that's feasible05:08
obeardlyI'm going to play around with some of them and see which ones will install and run under Devuan.05:08
rrqobeardly: could be useful with a note on the forum about good results06:30
al1r4dobeardly: nextcloud?08:48
freaxehhi08:49
al1r4dhi08:49
freaxehi've transitioned my devuan file server over from one motherboard to another, which has forced me to do a fresh installation of devuan. trouble is i have a mdadm array that needs importing08:50
freaxehhow do i do that08:50
freaxehis it as simple as: "mdadm --detail --scan | tee -a /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf"?08:50
freaxehis that the right command08:51
freaxehno data loss has occured, i'm using a different system drive08:51
freaxehbasically one mobo supports m.2 and another one only supports sata08:52
freaxehthe new one only supports sata08:52
al1r4dfreaxeh, i never use that command. i can't help08:52
freaxehk08:53
al1r4dsorry08:53
freaxehits cool08:53
al1r4das far as i remember, current year is 3 years me with devuan, its cool :D08:54
freaxehas far as i'm aware i need to get my mdadm.conf file08:55
freaxehfrom the old drive08:55
freaxehhttps://serverfault.com/questions/32709/how-do-i-move-a-linux-software-raid-to-a-new-machine08:55
al1r4dhmm08:58
al1r4dgood luck freaxeh08:59
freaxehbrb gotta transfer those files09:01
freaxehthat worked a treat09:28
freaxehnow to add it to fstab09:29
freaxehi've got slow performance in samba10:48
freaxeh6-20MB/sec when I should be getting much higher10:48
freaxehah it might be my wifi connection10:51
freaxehbrb10:51
freaxehit was, problem fixed, now getting 42MB/sec10:53
freaxehnow getting 100MB/sec on ethernet10:55
freaxehsweet10:55
aswjrisprrq: I am not sure. I used the default partitioning from the graphical installer.14:14
fsmithredaswjrisp, please post the output of 'fdisk -l' and 'df -Th' on paste.debian.net and give us the link. You can tell that you booted in uefi mode if /sys/firmware/efi exists.14:54
fsmithredI say "us" but I have to go soon and will be gone for a few hours.14:55
fsmithredand rrq is probably asleep.14:55
fsmithredbtw, you can boot any of the installer images to a rescue system and reinstall the bootloader or do other things manually. Look in the Advanced part of the boot menu.14:56
fsmithredoh, you're probably going to do this from a live boot, so don't bother with df -Th or /sys/firmware/efi.14:57
fsmithredoutput of blkid might help, too.14:58
fsmithredok, third thought - if you boot the same media you used for the install, knowing if /sys/firmware/efi exists in the booted live system will tell us how the installer thought it should proceed.14:59
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