libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2024-07-15

fsmithredDid you do it yet?00:02
AlexLikeRockits running00:02
fsmithredok00:02
AlexLikeRockdowngrade Xorg : no errors reported00:03
AlexLikeRockdowngrade mate : no errors reported00:03
AlexLikeRockdowngrade kde : running00:03
fsmithredyou're doing these individually?00:03
AlexLikeRockdowngrade libreoffice : no errors reported00:03
AlexLikeRockyes00:03
fsmithredoy vey00:03
fsmithredWhy won't you do it the way I said to do it?00:04
AlexLikeRockwhen i didt UPGRADE-FULL  .  collapse the RAM  and SWAP00:04
fsmithredthat was with the wrong pin-priority, wasn't it?00:05
fsmithredanyway, dinner is ready00:05
AlexLikeRockno,  whit correct  priority00:05
AlexLikeRockwell,  i have a TWM , openbox and mate , to play some fun00:06
AlexLikeRockenjoy your dinner  \o/00:06
AlexLikeRockinit 600:11
AlexLikeRocknot work keyboard !!!00:19
AlexLikeRock dam !!00:19
AlexLikeRockdowngrade 380 pakages ... more! ¬_¬00:20
AlexLikeRockwell now work fine apt  , thanks to you with de difference  1001 to 40000:21
AlexLikeRockhelp :     [    96.088] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)00:27
rwpDid you reboot after the downgrade?00:32
rwpAnd I just missed 'em.00:32
fsmithred1. set Pin-Priority of chimaera to 100100:52
fsmithred2. apt update00:53
fsmithred3. apt upgrade00:53
fsmithred4. probably apt dist-upgrade too00:53
fsmithred5. reb00:53
fsmithredshit00:53
fsmithredare you here or not?00:53
fsmithred5. reboot00:53
fsmithredAlexLikeRock, do you understand that you have to run 'apt upgrade' to downgrade?00:54
AlexLikeRock_i need to test   the OLD DEVUAN00:54
AlexLikeRock_yes , i didt00:54
AlexLikeRock_well  , partialy00:54
AlexLikeRock_hold on ...00:54
AlexLikeRock_ i found , : i dont have socket of dbus00:55
* AlexLikeRock_ listening "Mägo de Oz - Abracadabra"01:16
AlexLikeRock_fsmithred,01:17
AlexLikeRock_this it the error01:17
AlexLikeRock_Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused01:17
AlexLikeRock_01:17
AlexLikeRock_'apt upgrade"  done01:19
AlexLikeRock_  no more activity01:19
AlexLikeRock_les install dbus01:19
AlexLikeRock_.01:26
AlexLikeRock_ im confused01:27
AlexLikeRock_ dbus  != dbus-bin ???01:27
fsmithreddo you still have the aptitude command to see what's installed from daedalus?01:27
fsmithredmaybe apt dist-upgrade01:28
AlexLikeRock_half  OS01:28
AlexLikeRock_  dbus-system-bus-common : break whit : dbus01:28
AlexLikeRock_¬_¬01:28
fsmithredcat you boot to console?01:28
AlexLikeRock_yes01:28
fsmithredapt dist-upgrade01:28
fsmithredmight get the rest of it.01:29
AlexLikeRock_downgrade libC....01:29
fsmithredthat's pretty important01:30
AlexLikeRock_dam!!01:31
AlexLikeRock_F*ucking STOCK !01:31
AlexLikeRock_ the subprocess installed package libc6:amd64 pre-installation script returned error exit code 101:31
AlexLikeRock_Errors were encountered while processing:01:31
AlexLikeRock_ /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.31-13+deb11u10_amd64.deb01:31
fsmithredapt install libc6=2.31-13+deb11u1001:35
fsmithredsee if that works or gives more information01:35
fsmithredor maybe try the same with aptitude to get more options01:36
AlexLikeRock_COOL!01:36
AlexLikeRock_stuck again         ¬_¬01:36
AlexLikeRock_nop01:38
AlexLikeRock_fsmithred,01:39
AlexLikeRock_so, what next  fsmithred ?01:43
fsmithredno better error message?01:50
fsmithredAlexLikeRock_, 'aptitude install libc6' and if you say 'no' to the first option, it may give you another.01:54
AlexLikeRock_hold on ...02:00
AlexLikeRock_overfloww02:01
AlexLikeRock_http://paste.debian.net/1323296/02:01
AlexLikeRock_yes or not ?      fsmithred02:02
AlexLikeRock_i think must remove   everyting  of  i38602:02
AlexLikeRock_dam !02:02
AlexLikeRock_ its an  half paste02:03
AlexLikeRock_http://paste.debian.net/1323297/02:03
AlexLikeRock_its the other half02:03
fsmithredlooking...02:07
fsmithredthat looks like a good choice. It will install the most important things and leave one Recommends unsatisfied.02:10
fsmithredsay yes02:10
adhocis devuan removing i386 as a supported platform ?02:12
AlexLikeRock_no02:12
AlexLikeRock_its alive02:12
adhocok. good. =)02:12
AlexLikeRock_adhoc,02:12
* adhoc still uses it on some vintage machines.02:12
AlexLikeRock_its fine, avery one have once02:13
AlexLikeRock_alive02:13
AlexLikeRock_fsmithred, http://paste.debian.net/1323298/02:14
adhocAlexLikeRock_: wonderful =)02:15
fsmithredAlexLikeRock_, how did you become root? Just 'su' or 'su -'?02:18
AlexLikeRock_su -02:18
fsmithredwhat's the error in your last paste? I dont understand what it's saying about the PATH02:19
fsmithredadhoc, we're stuck with whatever debian does since most of our packages are pure debian packages (unchanged)02:21
AlexLikeRock_mee too , i dont understand  why apt  say abou it th PATH02:23
AlexLikeRock_echo $PATH02:25
AlexLikeRock_02:25
AlexLikeRock_ echo $PATH02:25
AlexLikeRock_02:25
AlexLikeRock_    # echo $PATH02:25
AlexLikeRock_  /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin02:25
adhocfsmithred: understood.02:32
fsmithredlast time you tried dist-upgrade there were problems with libc6, but that is not installed.02:32
fsmithredapt dist-upgrade02:32
adhocthanks for the update.02:32
fsmithredyw02:32
fsmithredsorry, bad typing - libc6 is NOW installed.02:33
fsmithredor aptitude full-upgrade02:34
nemohowdy folks.  in particular highlighting fsmithred who always has the answers... does anyone know how to run:20:21
nemoapt-get build-dep vlc20:22
nemoon devuan?20:22
nemoThe following packages have unmet dependencies: libelogind-compat : Conflicts: libsystemd020:22
nemoE: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.20:22
nemoamusingly, another devuan user was looking for help with builds at exact same time as I in #videolan and ran into this20:22
nemobut I'd like to try doing a build too, to see if I can get AMD VQ Enhancer Filter working which does not seem to be packaged by debian20:23
CueXXIIInemo: remove systemd-dev from debian/control (or replace it with libelogind-dev), then run mk-build-deps debian/control and install that package with apt-get install ./vlc-build-deps...20:25
nemooof. I will try to translate what you just said into commands :)20:26
nemofirst step, figuring out what debian/control is20:26
CueXXIIIthe file debian/control in the unpacked vlc sources20:27
nemoah.20:27
nemook. so. 0th step - get the vlc sources, unpack them, then repack them?20:28
CueXXIIIyou did apt-get source vlc?20:28
nemonot yet! I was trying to follow the instructions here.  https://wiki.videolan.org/UnixCompile#Debian20:28
nemowhich I guess is focused on building *their* packages20:29
CueXXIIIah… you don't want to build deb-packages, just build it…20:29
nemoCueXXIII: yes.20:29
nemoCueXXIII: I suspect the debian packages are missing that plugin I want ☺20:30
nemoso. I want to build it just to try it out20:30
nemoand either manually add the plugin to debian's build20:30
nemoor just run it periodically off to the side20:30
CueXXIIIyeah, the build-deps on devuan unfortunately are broken when systemd is involved…20:30
nemoCueXXIII: there's no tricksy redirection/short-circuiting ?20:30
nemo"ignore libsystemd0" ?20:30
nemoor. hm.20:31
nemojust dump the whole list of build-dep and manually exclude20:31
nemoCueXXIII: is there a "pretend" for apt-get build-dep vlc?20:31
CueXXIIInone that i know of20:31
morenonaturalin the meantime, I did `20:31
nemooh well. I guess building the package will also get me the build deps20:32
morenonaturalflex bison bear liblua5.4-dev lua5.4 libavcodec-dev l20:32
morenonaturalibavutil-dev libavformat-dev20:32
nemomorenonatural: ahhh you're cribbing off instructions for other distros eh :)20:32
CueXXIIIapt-cache showsrc vlc20:32
CueXXIIIshoudl show you the build-depends20:32
nemooh cool20:32
morenonaturaloh, thx CueXXIII20:32
nemowow. that is al ot20:32
nemoand clearly a lot of junk I don't need20:33
plasma41nemo: To rebuild vlc on Devuan requires a little tweaking to the unmodified Debian source package. For example, here's the debdiff of my local changes that I applied to the chimaera/bullseye version of the package: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/1b6910c3/22:33
plasma41nemo: The relevant part is the implementation of the pkg.vlc.nosystemd build profile.22:35
plasma41nemo: afk for a ~20 minutes, but I'd be happy to assist if you have any questions when I'm back.22:42
nemoplasma41: oh. thanks. but you probably should have highlighted morenonatural  ☺22:43
nemoplasma41: I'd wanted to try and get a build going 'cause I wanted to experiment with a filter I'd read about in https://9to5linux.com/vlc-3-0-21-adds-new-amd-vq-enhancer-filter-improves-opus-ambisonic-support22:43
nemobuuuut it's windows only22:44
nemofor me personally the existing packaged vlc works nicely ☺22:44
nemomorenonatural: double highlighting in case your client doesn't highlight on name-used-in-sentence22:44
morenonaturalI got a non-gui build, which should be enough to develop webdav22:46
morenonaturalcurrently checking out samba.c (not smb2.c because ... compiler errors? whatever) trying to base my work on that22:47
morenonaturalnemo, thank you 🫰🏾22:48
nemonp. gl.  I'm mildly puzzled as to why you have to do anything though22:49
nemoI thought vlc would "just work" with webdav22:49
nemolike... isn't a subversion http interface basically webdav?  and that seems to work in anything that talks http, for the simple case of GET..22:49
morenonaturalit mostly works, but for single files22:51
morenonaturalI cannot "play this directory"22:51
nemoah..22:52
nemohuh.22:52
morenonaturalthe other inconvenience is: on my phone, there's an option to _stream an multimedia file to_, and I can choose vlc... but it stops playing after a while22:52
nemomorenonatural: I bet that's due to timeouts.22:53
morenonaturalit's a separate thing22:53
nemomorenonatural: like... when tuning apache for very large commits in subversion, I had to crank timeouts way up22:53
nemook22:53
morenonaturalI suspect nextcloud goes to sleep or something22:53
morenonaturalI haven't dedicated time to narrow it down22:54
morenonaturalI believe it would take me less time to do a vlc module than debugging android22:54
morenonaturalthe good thing, like you say, is I can leverage http for playing single files22:55
nemonot sure what nextcloud is...22:55
nemofor playing multiple, if you could somehow transform a webdav/html folder view into a playlist.xml I guess vlc could handle that..22:55
morenonaturalI tried playing with playlists a while ago, but found little to no info (maybe it was just a m3u thing?)22:57
nemohttps://wiki.videolan.org/XSPF/   these?22:57
gnarfacei'm not sure of the limits on m3u files but pls files should be able to carry http urls22:59
gnarfacesomafm uses them for cluster failover lists23:00
gnarfacebut it should work just as well for regular playlists of static files, i'd think23:00
gnarfacemaybe m3u does the same thing i'm just not sure23:00
morenonaturalhmmh, this is much more complete info23:02
morenonaturalsince we're at it, anybody has got more info on start-time / end-time for vlc:option?23:03
morenonaturalI was interested in generating "loop playlists" using this https://github.com/arkrow/PyMusicLooper23:03
morenonaturaland I wanted to know if I could use floating points and whether there was something more precise23:04
nemomorenonatural: probably should put that in #videolan ☺23:12
plasma41o/23:15

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