| glenmow | how do i configure devuan for unetbootin? it has a hard disk install feature which allows me to boot into the os without a usb | 19:43 |
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| buZz | configure devuan to use a bootloader? | 19:44 |
| buZz | its usually the other way around, isnt it? | 19:44 |
| glenmow | doesn't unbtin come with a bootloader? | 19:44 |
| buZz | glenmow: my bet, if it has a 'debian' option, pick that ;) | 19:44 |
| glenmow | buZz | 19:44 |
| buZz | glenmow | 19:44 |
| glenmow | ? | 19:47 |
| fsmithred | did anyone understand what glenmow was trying to do? | 20:18 |
| mason | From Wikipedia: "UNetbootin is a cross-platform utility that can create live USB systems and can load a variety of system utilities or install various Linux distributions and other operating systems without a CD." | 20:25 |
| gnarface | whenever someone asks about unetbootin i just assume they've got outdated info from 2 decades ago when that was the only way to boot from usb or something like that | 20:48 |
| gnarface | normally those people will do just fine with any hybrid-iso and instructions to simply cp or dd it to the usb disk directly | 20:48 |
| gnarface | eh, maybe i shouldn't have skimmed so quick, clearly that's not what glenmow was trying to do, however i still don't think it actually needs unetbootin for that... i was pretty sure there was a way to boot the standard installer from a harddrive by just copying some partition contents out of it | 20:54 |
| gnarface | i thought in fact you reminded me how to do that more recently, fsmithred | 20:55 |
| fsmithred | not sure about doing that with the installer isos. | 20:58 |
| fsmithred | I know how to boot live isos that are copied to the hard drive. | 20:58 |
| fsmithred | and for installer on hard drive there's hd-media or whatever it's called | 20:59 |
| fsmithred | maybe they should have stayed longer. | 21:00 |
| gnarface | yea | 21:03 |
| joerg | XY problem | 22:13 |
| joerg | https://unetbootin.github.io/ >>*Installing Other Distributions Using UNetbootin* Download and run UNetbootin, then select the "disk image" option and supply it with an ISO (CD image).<< | 22:18 |
| joerg | >>UNetbootin doesn't use distribution-specific rules for making your live USB drive, so most Linux ISO files should load correctly using this option<< | 22:20 |
| joerg | any *live.iso should do, no? | 22:24 |
| fsmithred | I would assume that the live iso needs to contain an installer. But last time I used unetbooten was probably debian lenny. | 22:27 |
| mason | Teaching people to use debootstrap is my favourite option. | 23:09 |
| mason | It's very flexible. | 23:09 |
| rwp | +1 for debootstrap installation FTW! | 23:26 |
| Xenguy_ | I've seen a lot of mention of debootstrap but it's just never arrived on my radar | 23:33 |
| buZz | fsmithred: i -think- they wanted to use unetbootin to install devuan to a -hdd- | 23:52 |
| buZz | i have no clue why, maybe USB is broken on target machine | 23:53 |
| buZz | or it predates USB :D | 23:53 |
| Xenguy_ | Huh, so debootstrap seems to be some kind of separate instance within a chroot environment | 23:57 |
| buZz | well, its a debian tool, but many other distros have it as package aswell | 23:57 |
| mason | Xenguy_: debootstrap lays out packages using whatever you like as a root. | 23:57 |
| buZz | you can then after debootstrap is done, chroot into that rootfs and 'have devuan' | 23:58 |
| mason | Xenguy_: Example in my installer: https://github.com/ChibaPet/install-debian-zfs-sysvinit/blob/main/installer#L514 | 23:58 |
| Xenguy_ | I'm trying to imagine when/why it would be useful | 23:59 |
| Xenguy_ | Like what are some common use cases | 23:59 |
| Xenguy_ | Assuming this in On-topic for now | 23:59 |
| buZz | bootstrapping in general? | 23:59 |
| mason | Xenguy_: In my case, boot from some random environment, install debootstrap, install ZFS tooling, set up partitioning, debootstrap stuff into what will be the root of the new system. | 23:59 |
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