| divansantana | greetings amigos :) I'm trying to install devuan 5 on a celeron laptop. it errors out during partitioning, complaining about the boot device. | 08:34 |
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| divansantana | when i boot the usb stick, i don't see two options (uefi / non uefi mode), only a standard install mode, which i select. | 08:35 |
| divansantana | in the bios, secure boot is off, but i don't see an option for uefi legacy (or CSM). any idea on a doc or something i can follow to debug and get it intalled? | 08:35 |
| divansantana | this uefi BS they introduced, makes it a lot more difficult to get linux on laptops these days. | 08:36 |
| nsprra | you might have to look for documentation on your laptop bios to identify the csm capability and where to set it divansantana | 08:42 |
| divansantana | nsprra: is csm capability essential to booting devuan/debian linux? does it not support native uefi mode? | 08:44 |
| nsprra | i am new to uefi and have only done one installation. i had no difficulties. though there was one spurious error message after formatting. | 08:44 |
| nsprra | i installed with the uefi. you will need a GPT partition table, an EFI boot partition (mine is 512MB) and a root partition and perhaps a data partition | 08:44 |
| nsprra | i have not used the automated partitioning | 08:44 |
| divansantana | checking the laptop bios docs may be an option. browsing through the bios/uefi showed me no such option as uefi legacy/csm unfortunately. perhaps because it's a cheapy laptop. | 08:44 |
| nsprra | do you have a particular reason to avoid uefi?" | 08:45 |
| divansantana | no. i don't really care, as long as it installs. | 08:45 |
| nsprra | the install worked for me. i set csm to off and secure boot to off | 08:45 |
| divansantana | i think it *might* be working now. the other time, it failed with an error about not being able to update the kernel to let it know about the partition changes or something like that, while trying to install grub boot i think. | 08:46 |
| nsprra | yes i got that warning also | 08:46 |
| divansantana | after a second boot and attempt, i think it's working now. let me see. | 08:46 |
| nsprra | that seems like an erroneous error | 08:46 |
| nsprra | i got the warning about remouting and selected 'continue' | 08:47 |
| divansantana | let me try, thanks. | 08:48 |
| nsprra | bbl | 08:52 |
| gnarface | divansantana: uh... you shouldn't need uefi for a celeron at all | 09:03 |
| gnarface | they're not making new celerons are they? | 09:03 |
| nsprra | i recall a series from the early 2000s, then a rebranded celeron line much later | 09:13 |
| divansantana | ok, the install worked, second time, without the error. yey. | 09:28 |
| divansantana | proline, celeron N4020, 4G ram. pretty bad laptop, but better with linux. | 09:29 |
| nsprra | i had the first celeron netbook by acer. i don't think you can do much worse. | 09:40 |
| nsprra | "Happy shall HE BE -- who rewards thee (the virus makers) as thee have served us." | 09:41 |
| siewca | Hi. Is is possible to replace xz/gz by pixz/pigz in pretty way? E. g. by alternatives? | 10:39 |
| CueXXIII | siewca: i guess that could break features like reproducible builds, since the outputs can't be exactly the same if you utilize multiple threads. however i would set up symlinks in a seperate dir and include that into $PATH before /usr/bin (like ccache does for gcc) | 11:40 |
| siewca | CueXXIII: What it different between -1, -9 and multithread lossless compression? After decompression it will be the same... Twice compressed file by pixz/pigz will be the same with the same parameters and inputs... It have to be deterministic. Question was about how to do it in proper way - without break rootfs structure, like extra symlinks. :D | 11:55 |
| CueXXIII | siewca: but the compressed files will probably differ, so this would probably not be done system wide by a distribution | 12:40 |
| siewca | CueXXIII: For that reason there are tools like alternatives. | 12:47 |
| CueXXIII | not really. alternatives don't allow you a selection on a per-task-basis. i would go the ccache route, with some symlinks and addition to PATH | 12:48 |
| siewca | CueXXIII: That is my case - I want to change it manually for whole system (installed instance) with all warnings about that, but do it well. | 12:50 |
| e3d3 | I just install Devuan and when trying to update the package list with synaptic I get the error that repo label changed from 'Devuan Security' to 'Devuan-Security'. But I have a 'daedalus-security'. Should I change this ? | 15:52 |
| fsmithred | e3d3, try 'apt update' as root in a terminal. | 15:57 |
| e3d3 | fsmithred: thank you. I'll try that. | 15:57 |
| fsmithred | If 'apt update' fails, please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.debian.net | 16:00 |
| e3d3 | fsmithred: it worked, after I undid my manual label renaming, thanks | 16:01 |
| e3d3 | now synaptic displays the not selected repo's in a light green font, hardly readable. Crazy shit but no issue. | 16:09 |
| e3d3 | does anyone here have experience with using Devuan as base system for Bedrock Linux ? According to the Bedrock website only MX Linux and not Devuan have issues with the systemd shim. I don't know if these shims are the same. | 23:39 |
| fsmithred | e3d3, there is no systemd-shim in current stable devuan. | 23:50 |
| e3d3 | fsmithred: ? ohh ? | 23:51 |
| e3d3 | is it still systemd free. Did I miss something ? | 23:51 |
| fsmithred | maybe elogind takes care of that need | 23:53 |
| fsmithred | there is no systemd in devuan. Ever. | 23:53 |
| e3d3 | I've read multiple times about it, was happy to forget most of it but remember the elogind. | 23:55 |
| e3d3 | Thanks again. I think I'll find the remaining info myself. | 23:58 |
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