libera/#devuan-dev/ Friday, 2025-04-18

tempforeverhas deb trixie entered soft freeze yet?  https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html indicates it was supposed to Apr 1504:18
LeePentempforever: yes13:13
LeePen13:13
fsmithredI just had a weird thing happen. I ran update/upgrade on an excalibur VM and it installed the new desktop-base (5.9) and the sapphire them desktop background went away, then a few more packages installed, then desktop-base same version got installed again and sapphire background image came back. This is on mate desktop.14:02
fsmithredwhy did d-b get installed twice? That's not anything I did, but it seems like it worked. Need to try it with xfce desktop.14:03
CueXXIIIdid it really install desktop-base twice or did it remove it first during the upgrade?15:49
fsmithredpretty sure it installed15:52
fsmithredtwice15:52
CueXXIIIthat's strange15:54
fsmithredyeah, I think I would have noticed it before if it removed at the beginning and installed at the end of upgrade. I have set -x in the pre- and post- scrripts. It makes a lot of output.15:58
CueXXIIIyou could look at /var/log/dpkg.log to see what dpkg actually did15:59
XenguyI vote for making MATE the default Devuan desktop15:59
* Xenguy runs aways...15:59
fsmithreddoes it have plain text config files or dconf binary shit16:01
fsmithred?16:01
fsmithredI can't tell for sure. here is dpkg.log: https://termbin.com/u7bx16:08
Xenguyfsmithred, I have no idea, as I've never used either with this DE16:24
fsmithredI took a quick look around and couldn't find much in the way of config files for mate.16:46
XenguyI suppose that begs the question, what are you trying to config?16:47
CueXXIIIfsmithred: hm, i only see one "upgrade" and one "configure" action of desktop-base in there, the "status" lines are status changes during that action16:48
Xenguyfsmithred, As I say, I've never needed them AFAICT16:48
fsmithredXenguy, window theme, desktop background16:48
fsmithredand icon theme16:48
fsmithredi.e. desktop-base16:48
Xenguyfsmithred, I think that's just done by GUI, but I don't mess with such things typically16:49
XenguyMaybe it's different for you if you're trying to roll an ISO16:49
fsmithredno, it needs to be done when the package gets installed. There needs to be code in desktop-base to do that.16:49
XenguyYeah, fair enough16:50
fsmithredI'm not rolling an iso, I am considering your request to change the default DE16:50
XenguyWell a new DE would impact an ISO I think16:50
fsmithredalthough, d-b probably doesn't matter. It's very nearly an abandoned package.16:50
fsmithredAnyone want it?16:50
XenguyBut yeah, I don't know these internals admittedly16:51
Xenguy"d-b" ?16:51
fsmithreddesktop-base16:51
XenguyOh16:51
fsmithredwhich I have hated ever since spacefun theme16:51
fsmithredand avoided16:51
XenguyIt doesn't mean anything to me, but I'm just another user16:51

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!