| Xenguy | the_emulator, Thanks for the pointer to the lunduke video, I enjoyed it | 00:05 |
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| rrq | the_emulator: note that if your host doesn't have port 80 then it cannot be in the package mirror round-robin | 00:12 |
| plasma41 | Who from Devuan talked with Lunduke? In his video, he just says he talked with "the Devuan project" as if we're some sort of hivemind monolith. When Devuan developers have been interviewed in the past, we've tended to make clear that no one individual speaks for the whole project. | 00:25 |
| golinux | plasma41: They probably contacted Dyne | 00:48 |
| golinux | I wish that someone would leave a note there that the "No Code of Conduct" was written 10 years ago and has nothing to do with current wokeness. | 00:50 |
| plasma41 | I'd prefer Devuan be known as a project with great code and a great community and not as a place to attract people who are anti-"the currently popular political insult". | 00:55 |
| golinux | Agreed. Thing is his analysis is bogus and should be corrected. | 01:07 |
| golinux | Sadly I don't swim in the current ponds of craziness to debunk his nonsense . . . | 01:08 |
| flood25 | hello, I just set up a mirror for Devuan. http://uswest.devuan.download/ | 01:11 |
| flood25 | it's hosted in LA Cali. Rsync is still syncing the files. | 01:11 |
| onefang | If these are both package mirrors, then I'm the person to talk with, but stick with the instructions in the walkthrough I posted before. | 01:22 |
| onefang | On the other hand, it's Saturday morning here, I didn't want to be working this hard during the weekend. Might take some time for me to get to it. | 01:23 |
| rrq | I think it's iso mirror rather | 01:25 |
| flood25 | do you have instructions for setting up a package mirror? | 01:29 |
| rrq | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt | 01:29 |
| flood25 | how much space is recommended | 01:30 |
| rrq | currently about <25G is needed | 01:32 |
| flood25 | nevermind | 01:32 |
| flood25 | the docs says 60gb | 01:32 |
| flood25 | thats good it's only 25gb right now | 01:32 |
| * golinux was just going to post that link . . . | 01:33 | |
| golinux | Most of our packages come directly from Debian . . . | 01:33 |
| flood25 | so if i'm hosting the ISOs right now do I need to put it on a different path | 01:34 |
| flood25 | or could it be synced under the same directory path | 01:34 |
| golinux | https://files.devuan.org/MIRRORS.txt | 01:34 |
| flood25 | I've followed those instructions already | 01:35 |
| golinux | OK. | 01:35 |
| flood25 | for the mirrors.txt file | 01:35 |
| flood25 | i imagine it's going to take a while for rsync to complete | 01:35 |
| flood25 | I'm going to setup another one in New Jersey.. useast.devuan.download | 01:36 |
| golinux | I am just the 'librarian' | 01:36 |
| flood25 | don't sell yourself short | 01:36 |
| golinux | Your contributions are appreciated! | 01:36 |
| flood25 | thanks | 01:37 |
| rrq | your deb.devuan.org virtual host needs URL handling for "/merged/*" "/DEVUAN/*" and "/DEBIAN/*" .. there's good instructions for that setup | 01:38 |
| rrq | well, I think they are good :) | 01:38 |
| rrq | you may have the actual directory mixed with the ISO mirror if you like, but then youc ant use --delete when refreshing the package mirror | 01:39 |
| flood25 | ok | 01:43 |
| * bb|hcb watching the lunduke video... | 07:18 | |
| bb|hcb | It is very distrurbing that common sense stuff needs to be repeated and emphasized on... The world seems going south | 07:20 |
| the_emulator | rrq: thanks for the info, will try to get my ISP to make me have an IP with those ports. However if they can't get me one, can't the round robin just use IPv6? Because I have full accesss to an IPv6 address, as they are not scarce. | 10:36 |
| rrq | bb|hcb: does the RR scripting handle ipv6-only service ? | 10:39 |
| gnu_srs | Howdy. I'm trying to port seatd to GNU/Hurd. In contact with the seatd author, he mentioned that Devuan patched Xorg server to support seatd. | 11:34 |
| gnu_srs | Are these patches upstreamed? I found the following link, from 2022: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/xorg-server/src/branch/suites/experimental/debian/patches/0001-Support-libseat.patch | 11:34 |
| gnu_srs | In case the patches are not applied upstream, can I patch Xorg server from Debian sources, or can I download the patched Devuan Xorg source somewhere? | 11:34 |
| rrq | the devuan project is fork off debian's salsa project, and tracking that, with the addition of that patch for seatd integration. | 12:07 |
| rrq | it's using an "quilt" package building applying patches before compiling and reverse-patching afterwards | 12:09 |
| rrq | are you looking for a once-off build or an ongoing maintenance? | 12:09 |
| bb|hcb | rrq: It should, unless there is some (undiscovered) bug | 12:50 |
| rrq | ok so the_emulator may provide an ipv6 package mirror without an ipv4 one | 12:53 |
| bb|hcb | From the mirror list the domain part is used to resolve to v4 and/or v6 and whatever found goes in the RR. The RR zone has a *.deb fallback, so it will work | 12:59 |
| rrq | hmm only if ipv4 doesn't resolve? or does it check for http service? | 13:06 |
| rrq | I suppose the advice will need to be to have ipv6 only domain name | 13:12 |
| rrq | (since here the_emulator is not in control of the ipv4 http port) | 13:13 |
| bb|hcb | CNAME can not have multiple entries, while A/AAAA can... | 13:18 |
| bb|hcb | So CC.deb.devuan.org is CNAME to CC.deb.rr.devuan.org and only the rr.devuan.org zone is frequently refreshed | 13:20 |
| bb|hcb | The plan is apt-panopticon to check which service is OK and which is not and to generate the mirror list with the domain, supported country codes, works/fails flag and include in RR and RR-CC flags. | 13:22 |
| bb|hcb | The automation script is quite dumb, resolving the domains to ips and generating the rr.devuan.org zone | 13:23 |
| rrq | right; we wouldn't want to check on the ipv4 http service at all in this case so a domain that only has ipv6 is needed | 13:23 |
| bb|hcb | Currently onefang is managing the flags manually | 13:24 |
| bb|hcb | BTW. What is the_emulator? It seems I missed something... :) | 13:24 |
| rrq | not what; who :) | 13:24 |
| rrq | they are setting up a mirror, but have reduced ipv4 | 13:25 |
| rrq | some VPS hosting that partitions the port range it seems | 13:26 |
| rrq | though has ipv6 with full port range | 13:27 |
| bb|hcb | Oh, ok, ok. Saw that... | 13:27 |
| gnu_srs | (12:10:39) rrq: are you looking for a once-off build or an ongoing maintenance? I'm trying to make seatd work on Hurd. I'll use the patch to build an updated xorg server to see | 15:06 |
| gnu_srs | how it goes. | 15:06 |
| golinux | <plasma41> Who from Devuan talked with Lunduke? | 17:04 |
| golinux | Jaromil! | 17:04 |
| golinux | The Devuan 2024 financial report has been posted! | 20:40 |
| golinux | https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/report/devuan_financial_report_2024.pdf | 20:40 |
| golinux | Thanks to everyone who has contributed towards helping to pay the bills for Devuan's infrastructure costs! | 20:40 |
| mason | Lunduke supporting Devuan is not in Devuan's best interests. | 22:39 |
| Xenguy | mason, Why do you say that, I'm not familiar with this guy? | 23:02 |
| mason | Xenguy: He used to be content exploring technology, but lately I guess he's decided he gets more money out of being a right-wing talk radio personality that focusses on technology. | 23:22 |
| golinux | Read the #devuan-dev scrollback | 23:22 |
| bb|hcb | I think that we should not care who likes and who hates Devuan. Our focus should be Devuan itself, not all the gossip around it | 23:52 |
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