| rrq | so, suddenly deboostrap/excalibur objects to a target filesystem primed with silly-links!! complaining taht it cannot install the silly-links? why is that necessary? | 09:35 |
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| LeePen | Becasue they are now in base-files, so doing it manually in advance is no longer necessary. | 09:36 |
| rrq | but why not allowed? | 09:36 |
| LeePen | Not sure. | 09:37 |
| rrq | the error comes for "tar" being used for making the silly-links... | 09:39 |
| rrq | whatev's ... I'll just have to patch the iso building script | 09:40 |
| LeePen | I think it should Just Work⢠with the defaults now. | 09:40 |
| LeePen | No special handling required. | 09:40 |
| rrq | the iso build script worked fine before and now it broke :) | 09:41 |
| rrq | it's the meaning of "it" I suppose | 09:42 |
| LeePen | Yes, I know! | 09:59 |
| LeePen | My 'it' was debootstrap and silly-links | 09:59 |
| LeePen | The silly-links business was/is always going to be pretty fluid. And we have avoided the worst of the turbulence. | 10:00 |
| rrq | yeah. minor issue; just surprised me | 10:01 |
| rrq | worse is that busybox-udeb doesn't offer modprobe | 10:01 |
| LeePen | Now you are talking! | 10:02 |
| LeePen | In other news, my systemd->openrc script is nearly ready for alpha testers. | 10:03 |
| rrq | seems xorriso no longer upholds the El Torrito 32Mb limit of the El Torrito boot image, so the ISOs could skip the preamble stage.. any thoughts on that? | 10:24 |
| rrq | (would lose my ascii art as well :) | 10:25 |
| rrq | or hmm, no, maybe I'm wrong about that; it's rather that ... the image is just 28.4M | 10:30 |
| rrq | back to call for testers of openrc script generator | 10:36 |
| GyrosGeier | I think it may make sense to set up CI with a matrix of every known debootstrap version and every known Debian compatible distro, so we get an overview of what can be bootstrapped | 14:24 |
| GyrosGeier | might just do that at some point | 14:24 |
| fsmithred | ls /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ | 14:32 |
| GyrosGeier | no, like what actually works | 14:34 |
| GyrosGeier | unpacking Essential packages with tar stopped working because of the silly symlinks | 14:34 |
| GyrosGeier | unpacking Essential with dpkg still works, because dpkg has a rule that in a symlink-vs-directory conflict, the directory wins | 14:35 |
| LeePen | From my testing, they all work (both Debian and Devuan) with ceres/excalibur version. | 14:38 |
| rrq | with effort one might be able to break it by something that installs silly-links before base-files gets unpacked, but I don't know any candidate for that | 14:52 |
| rrq | well, I primed the target with silly-links before debootstrap and that broke | 14:55 |
| GyrosGeier | exactly | 14:56 |
| GyrosGeier | same for me | 14:56 |
| GyrosGeier | that's why it would be great to have a matrix like that | 14:57 |
| rrq | well, there are many other ways debootstrap files with a "dirty" target | 14:57 |
| rrq | in my case I installed the links to remedy flaws with the prior debootstrap and I'm quite happy to just remove that patch | 14:59 |
| rrq | (... debootstrap *fails* with a "dirty" target) | 15:00 |
| LeePen | Call for (brave) testers for a systemd->openrc translator. | 15:03 |
| LeePen | https://git.devuan.org/LeePen/systemd-unit-translator | 15:03 |
| GyrosGeier | rebootstrap should have --with-merged-usr or something such to create the symlinks | 15:04 |
| GyrosGeier | -r+d | 15:04 |
| LeePen | Try find /lib/systemd/system -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec ./systemd-unit-translator '{}' /tmp/rc ';' | 15:04 |
| LeePen | And see what it chokes on. | 15:05 |
| LeePen | I will update the docs now. | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | LeePen, the forum would be a good place to recruit the few openrc users there. | 15:25 |
| LeePen | Yes, I will once I know there is nothing terminally/dangerously broken! | 15:28 |
| LeePen | plasma asked my to post the orig tarball pristine tar question to devuan-dev list, hence the duplicate. | 15:57 |
| Xenguy_ | LeePen, Hi, a note to you here as you are not in #-www: Beowulf is due to be archived in a few days (Debian's go-date is June 30 I believe). I've prepared a git branch with the changes and I'll aim to merge that in when you give the green light... | 20:45 |
| Xenguy_ | Meanwhile, I do have a couple of questions of clarification about which config lines should be included in the 'Default configuations' section of https://devuan.org/os/packages page. I'll aim to post those questions on the PAD before the Thursday meet, so just a heads-up for you as it probably needs your blessing. | 20:48 |
| LeePen | Xenguy_: thanks | 23:38 |
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