libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2023-10-31

gnu_srsHi, how important is the dbus package?11:00
onefangIt's used by all sorts of things.11:02
gnu_srsI have other dbus packages installed on a hurd box: dbus-bin, dbus-daemon,dbus-session-bus-common,dbus-x11,libdbus-1-3.11:06
gnu_srsOn another box the package dbus is also installed.11:06
gnu_srsProblem is that dbus_1.14.10-3 now depends on usr-is-merged, which I don't want to install (or usrmerge)11:08
gnu_srsMaybe time the create a Devuan/Hurd port since Debian/Hurd now requires usr-is-merged?11:09
rrqisn't it 1.14.10-3devuan1 ? which doesn't have that dependency ?11:10
onefangAre you volunteering to do that?11:10
gnu_srsMaybe we can start the process. Any followers?11:14
fsmithredgnu_srs, it's possible to function without dbus. Here's a discussion about it: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=215811:22
onefangDon't think I have seen any mention of Hurd by Devuan users until now.11:25
gnu_srsThe Debian hurd package itself also conflicts with usrmerge.11:29
bb|hcbIMHO Hurd is more like a toy. Very useful to find bugs when you port and try your own software on it, but all in all that is it.17:20
bb|hcbHurd is 32bit only, the filesystem is magnitude slower than any Linux/BSD filesystem, networking is unstable, there is no decent firewall; to list a few of the cons17:22
gnu_srsbb|hcb: Hurd is no longer a toy: Ongoing/completed: rumpdisk, SMP, 64bit17:44
bb|hcbReally? That is good news :)17:48

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