| bgstack15 | Does anyone know off the top of your head how rmadison gets the url shorthand for devuan's rmadison interface at api.pkginfo.devuan.org/madison? | 17:41 |
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| bgstack15 | One of my systems has this url available to rmadison but I cannot find the /etc, or ~/.* or /usr/share/devscripts file that would define that. | 17:41 |
| bgstack15 | Found it. ~/.devscripts contains an environment variable RMADISON_URL_MAP_DEVUAN | 17:51 |
| LeePen | /etc/devscripts.conf | 17:51 |
| LeePen | RMADISON_URL_MAP | 17:51 |
| bgstack15 | I suppose it's not worth forking the devscripts package to get this url added as a shorthand? | 17:52 |
| bgstack15 | Do you think upstream would be interested in a patch that adds that shorthand to the hardcoded list in /usr/bin/rmadison ? | 17:52 |
| LeePen | Your second idea sounds much better to me ;) | 17:53 |
| bgstack15 | Do you think they would be open to the idea? I mean, we can't just have every $RANDOMUSER adding a distro to the upstream package. | 17:54 |
| LeePen | Yes, they may if you ask politely and include a patch. | 17:55 |
| LeePen | Worth a try | 17:55 |
| bgstack15 | I suppose the BTS is the right place for that. I'd have to figure how to build the email; I'm a terrible person and only use email from a Gmail web interface... | 17:56 |
| * bgstack15 hangs his head in shame | 17:56 | |
| LeePen | Just use 'reportbug devscripts' | 17:56 |
| bgstack15 | So, I cannot recall submitting bugs before to Debian. Does my sendmail need to be configured to actually work, for reportbug to actually send a message? | 18:14 |
| LeePen | I don't think so. | 18:15 |
| bgstack15 | Great, thanks! I'm intrigued at how they could prevent spam. But also if it depends on a real port 25 connection, I have my doubts about my ISP tolerating that. ISPs are kind of picky these days. I'll check in a while on the bugs page to see if it shows up. | 18:16 |
| LeePen | /usr/bin/sendmail can send to any host independent of a working smtp server. | 18:17 |
| LeePen | I think debian has an incoming smtphost just for bugs.debian.org/ | 18:17 |
| LeePen | Surely you ISP will allow an outgoing connection to port 25? | 18:18 |
| LeePen | If not, once you have used reportbug you can save the report to a file and send it using another service. | 18:19 |
| LeePen | reportbug is really quite flexible and worth getting to know. | 18:19 |
| LeePen | And there is a gui if you like to click things with a mouse | 18:19 |
| bgstack15 | When I lived on my college campus, they blocked smtp/imap/pop3 ports so I had to use webmail gmail. I've heard about ISPs that also block any port 25 except their own smtp.$ISPNAME.domain servers. I haven't tried my current ISP yet. | 18:24 |
| LeePen | If you have to use smtp.$ISPNAME.domain, set that as smtphost in the reportbug config. | 18:30 |
| bgstack15 | Random topic: from a few weeks ago: Fedora discusses "unified kernel images" as a replacement of an initramfs: https://lwn.net/Articles/918909/ | 19:15 |
| LeePen | Isn't that a just a kernel with all the modules compiled in?? | 19:18 |
| bgstack15 | Compiled by the distro, so you do not get your custom set of modules and kernel command line. | 19:21 |
| bgstack15 | (Compiled by the distro, so that it can be signed with a M$-blessed EUFI signing key) | 19:22 |
| bb|hcb | As I get it, that kernel contains initramfs inside (with the modules, and possibly some tools) | 19:29 |
| bgstack15 | yes, so whatever modules that the upstream distro chooses to bundle. if you're on some custom hardware for which you've locally loaded the modules, tough luck, because they won't be there at boot time. | 19:30 |
| bb|hcb | Yep, same with the tools. Divergents should not exist | 19:33 |
| LeePen | Sigh! | 19:36 |
| bgstack15 | Tech can be so fascinating, even the dystopian tech! It's a shame that so much tech is not working on behalf of the user. | 19:44 |
| bgstack15 | The movie "Tron" from 1980 made that concept silly, but it's actually prescient: Master Control Program decided what the programs should do, and ignored the user input. Substitute $BIGTECH for MCP, and it's happening now. | 19:45 |
| LeePen | Surely that film was before your time! | 20:09 |
| bgstack15 | Ah, you have seen me on those weekly Devuan meet calls, haven't you? Yes, of course it was before my time but I've still seen it. | 20:36 |
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