| bb|hcb | hi | 02:10 |
|---|---|---|
| bb|hcb | looks like files.devuan.org stopped updating? | 02:10 |
| Xenguy | rrq ^^ ? | 02:16 |
| Xenguy | hi bb|hcb , thanks for the bug report : -) | 02:17 |
| bb|hcb | i am updating the gpsd fork for devuan, and cannot install anyting (e.g. build deps) | 02:19 |
| fsmithred | you must mean pkgmaster.devuan.org or deb.devuan.org | 02:19 |
| fsmithred | files.devuan.org has isos | 02:19 |
| bb|hcb | i checked only files.devuan.org::devuan (rsync) | 02:20 |
| fsmithred | we haven't made any changes there recently | 02:21 |
| Xenguy | Is the rsync service running? | 02:21 |
| fsmithred | I don't know | 02:21 |
| fsmithred | oh, I can check fdo | 02:22 |
| bb|hcb | yes, but packages that are updates in debian (e.g. with +b2) are still referenced with the previous version, which is no longer in the respective debian mirror | 02:22 |
| bb|hcb | updates=updated | 02:22 |
| Xenguy | aha, so the rsync service is up, good to know | 02:22 |
| fsmithred | rsync is running | 02:22 |
| Xenguy | yay | 02:23 |
| rrq | amprolla's sick atm | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | there are no packages on files.devuan.org | 02:23 |
| onefang | I saw a bunch of "file has vanished: "/home/vesta/devuan/log/.amprolla.txt.wBVwze", but no error reports for the last two hours. | 02:24 |
| Xenguy | I hope it's not the virus = ) | 02:24 |
| bb|hcb | i also run a mirror... :) | 02:24 |
| onefang | Most of the mirrors have less than 100% updated weekly statistics showing now. | 02:24 |
| Xenguy | I wonder why that would be? | 02:25 |
| onefang | "rrq: amprolla's sick atm" would be my guess. | 02:26 |
| Xenguy | Is that just a default error level, or ...? | 02:26 |
| bb|hcb | and first thought something broke on my end, but after checking all looks fine. from what i see packages that come directly from debian are still referenced with their old version and not avail on the debian mirror | 02:26 |
| Xenguy | onefang: no, your comment | 02:26 |
| Xenguy | onefang: oh I see, gotcha | 02:26 |
| onefang | Which of my comments? lol | 02:27 |
| Xenguy | Sorry I too confused to keep track of my comments, let alone yours! 8 -D | 02:27 |
| Xenguy | *I'm | 02:27 |
| * Xenguy checks food on the stove... | 02:28 | |
| onefang | For my first comment .amprolla.txt.wBVwze is a temporary file while Amprolla updates pkgmaster. rsync will report that sort of thing every now and then, coz rsyncs can catch things mid update. But several of them in a row is likely some sort of odd issue. Or really bad timing. | 02:30 |
| rrq | seem a and leepen has a race... (I add a bug and he fixes it; repeat) .. he's asleep atm | 02:31 |
| rrq | s/seem a/seems I/ | 02:31 |
| onefang | For my second comment, usually most mirrors have 100% updated in the Weekly statistics column of apt-panopticon, right now only three are 100%, but that includes pkgmaster, which is always 100%, since it's the reference. | 02:32 |
| onefang | Though being weekly stats, they'll take a week to get back up to 100%. | 02:33 |
| bb|hcb | I mean that data on pkgmaster looks not updated | 02:33 |
| rrq | there have been updates to debian pacakages which have not been merged yet, because amprolla is sick | 02:34 |
| onefang | Which is back to amprolla I suspect. I'll take rrq's word for that. | 02:34 |
| bb|hcb | will it self heal? | 02:39 |
| onefang | I suspect we need to feed Leepen and rrq buckets of coffee so they are both awake at the same time to coordinate amprolla fixes. | 02:41 |
| Xenguy | +1 | 02:42 |
| onefang | Once amprolla is feeding pkgmaster correctly, the mirrors will sync correctly. | 02:42 |
| onefang | And a week later my weekly stats will be good again. | 02:43 |
| rrq | yeah; we picked up on an unusual failure case last week, but fixing has rather exaggerated the problem so far | 02:45 |
| rrq | it's on schedule to something better by midday UK time I believe | 02:47 |
| bb|hcb | ok, thanks :) | 03:02 |
| bb|hcb | \q | 03:02 |
| JackFrost | LeePen: ..Curious, have you considered picking up opensysusers too? | 05:02 |
| drizzt | Hi all ! | 13:38 |
| drizzt | I updated my system today and have a segfault with geeqie | 13:39 |
| drizzt | 1.6-3 segfaults | 13:39 |
| drizzt | but 1.6-5 which i installed from debian repository does not | 13:39 |
| drizzt | maybe the fix is simply to update the package reference in packages list | 13:40 |
| drizzt | (is this task automated, and new package from debian will do it to devuan soon ?) | 13:41 |
| onefang | Devuan Beowulf (current stable) has Geeqie 1.4. So I guess you are using an experimental, testing, or unstable Devuan? | 13:42 |
| drizzt | ceres (unstable) | 13:42 |
| onefang | Most of Devuan is straight from Debian. | 13:42 |
| drizzt | that's where all the interesting stuff happens :) | 13:43 |
| drizzt | onefang: yep, i know | 13:43 |
| drizzt | that's why i tested this one, I did not find geeqie in "devuan specific" lists | 13:43 |
| onefang | Most Devuan package mirrors just redirect most packages to Debian package mirrors. So yes, it's "automatic". | 13:44 |
| drizzt | and that's why I think the fix is simply to reference the 1.6-5 in the lists | 13:44 |
| onefang | And I gotta go eat dinner soon. | 13:44 |
| drizzt | the only part I do not know is wether this is automatic :) | 13:45 |
| drizzt | now I know :) | 13:45 |
| bgstack15 | Devuan meet tomorrow at 20:30 UTC! Pad is https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/R6zsgf72YLBUls392htSzdzn/ | 14:46 |
| LeePen | I believe amprolla is behaving better now. | 17:43 |
| LeePen | pkgmaster.d.o is no up to date. | 17:44 |
| LeePen | Mirrors should catch up over the next few hours. | 17:44 |
| LeePen | Let me know if you still find inconsistencies. | 17:44 |
| drizzt | LeePen: you mean like the one with geeqie ? | 17:48 |
| fsmithred | geeqie is now up to date with sid | 17:49 |
| LeePen | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/xsl-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=geeqie | 17:49 |
| LeePen | drizzt: ^^ | 17:49 |
| fsmithred | so is wget | 17:49 |
| LeePen | Yes | 17:49 |
| fsmithred | and linux-image-amd64. Those are the only ones I checked. | 17:49 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: seems encouraging. | 17:50 |
| fsmithred | a dollar says you did it right and they all updated | 17:50 |
| fsmithred | or are you guys up north going back to using euros? | 17:51 |
| LeePen | Bartering mainly ;) | 17:51 |
| fsmithred | also, latest netinstall iso installs uefi correctly and also speech install (minus that new package for PA which works when added.) | 17:51 |
| LeePen | Even better | 17:52 |
| fsmithred | do we know how we're gonna make that package get installed automatically? | 17:52 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah, everyone with PA should get that, so we could add it to a task- package | 17:53 |
| LeePen | Yes. I looked at that. I can't see where PA gets pulled in. | 17:53 |
| drizzt | PA ? | 17:54 |
| LeePen | We could add it to task-desktop. | 17:54 |
| LeePen | drizzt: pulseaudio | 17:54 |
| fsmithred | pulseaudio | 17:54 |
| drizzt | anyway, thanks for the fix :) | 17:54 |
| LeePen | drizzt: nw | 17:55 |
| drizzt | hum, OK | 17:55 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: I'll give it some thought. | 17:56 |
| drizzt | have fun, and happy new year to everyone ! | 17:56 |
| drizzt | +++ | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | I'm firing up a VM to ask aptitude why | 17:56 |
| golinux | Xfce depends iirc | 18:10 |
| onefang | My last to package sync emails say a shit load of deletions happened. | 18:13 |
| onefang | Er "last two". | 18:13 |
| LeePen | onefang: Yes, I cleared out some (I hope) cruft | 18:14 |
| onefang | Mostly hash files by the look of it. | 18:14 |
| LeePen | The old hash files were being kept on pkgmaster. | 18:14 |
| LeePen | They are being deleted now. | 18:15 |
| LeePen | But there was a backlog (about a year's worth) | 18:15 |
| LeePen | Also obsolete versions of packages in pool/ | 18:15 |
| onefang | OK, I'll stop panicking now then. B-) | 18:17 |
| LeePen | Maybe I should have warned. Sorry. | 18:17 |
| onefang | Well, if we get complaints in #devuan, you can explain things. | 18:19 |
| LeePen | The Good News™ is that it will make mirrors use fewer resources ;) | 18:21 |
| fsmithred | If you haven't already done it, amprolla.txt need logrotate | 18:37 |
| fsmithred | task-mate-desktop recommends orca which needs PA, task-xfce-desktop depends xfce4 which depends xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, which recommends PA | 18:43 |
| fsmithred | I didn't check any others yet | 18:43 |
| LeePen | There is no easy way for us to hook into that AFAICS | 18:45 |
| fsmithred | maybe make it a Recommends for task-desktop | 18:46 |
| fsmithred | taht already includes firefox-esr which Recommends pulseaudio | 18:46 |
| fsmithred | ff-esr is a Rec not a Dep | 18:47 |
| LeePen | Good idea | 18:47 |
| rrq | fsmithred: another why to find the "why" behind pulsaeudio is to download DVD1_LIST_amd4 from the installer-iso content logs and look at "grep -B1 ^pulseaudio" which enumerates the reasons for including that package in the DVD pool | 22:52 |
| rrq | DVD = desktop iso | 22:53 |
| rrq | (first "why" should be with my swedish accent so it sounds like "way") | 23:00 |
| fsmithred | where is this dvd list? | 23:02 |
| rrq | https://jenkins.devuan.dev/job/installer-iso/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/content/beowulf-3.1-amd64/desktop-20210110203814/DVD1_LIST_amd64 | 23:03 |
| fsmithred | empty file | 23:06 |
| fsmithred | oh shit, it's still downloading | 23:06 |
| fsmithred | no | 23:06 |
| fsmithred | that's the iso that's still downloading | 23:06 |
| rrq | just 20M | 23:06 |
| fsmithred | ok, wget is actually downloading something now. firefox gave me the empty file | 23:07 |
| rrq | yes, it's not really for interactive access | 23:08 |
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