| agneli | nomia: did you manage to solve your problem? | 06:41 |
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| nomia | ): no | 09:32 |
| nomia | idk where to find a devuan image that works | 09:33 |
| nomia | all the old images have systemd and don't give any useful info in logs | 09:33 |
| nomia | and they are too old to apt-get install debootstrap | 09:34 |
| nomia | i tried to build a freebsd image with crochet but it doesn't work | 09:35 |
| gnarface | when you boot it with devaun and it reaches the black screen, have you tried pinging it at that point? i forget if i asked | 09:42 |
| nomia | it doesn't do anything at all | 09:56 |
| nomia | i don't think it even boots a kernel | 09:56 |
| nomia | old armbian will boot to single user if i edit the systemd links by hand but multi user goes into a reboot loop and doesn't write any logs | 09:58 |
| nomia | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-outage-affects-bing-copilot-duckduckgo-and-chatgpt-internet-search/ | 14:34 |
| nomia | (: also affects me | 14:34 |
| nomia | i was trying to apt-get update but can't get to packages.microsoft.com or cli.github.com | 14:35 |
| nomia | can i apt-get install a devuan debootstrap for armhf? | 14:47 |
| nomia | or download with wget | 14:47 |
| gnarface | yes | 14:50 |
| nomia | where can i wget the packages? | 15:21 |
| rrq | it appears gnarface spoke too fast, or perhaps the arm64 variant will cater for armhf as well ... https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=debootstrap&x=submit | 15:25 |
| rrq | my armhf daedalus does have debootstrap=1.0.134devuan2 installed | 15:28 |
| rrq | the deb is named debootstrap_1.0.134devuan2_all.deb | 15:29 |
| rrq | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.134devuan2_all.deb | 15:30 |
| nomia | (: thx | 15:34 |
| rrq | so gnarface was right (of course :) since debootstrap is pure scripting; I'm not sure why it's not included in the armhf packages | 15:35 |
| nomia | hm armbian uses ubuntu pkgs and debootstrap depends on distro-info | 15:38 |
| nomia | but devuan debootstrap only depends on wget | 15:38 |
| rrq | its a forked package, yes | 15:39 |
| nomia | hm http worked but https was 404 | 15:44 |
| nomia | old version? | 15:46 |
| nomia | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.134devuan3_all.deb | 15:46 |
| rrq | md5sum is 2d7f6ed0ff55d4e952da2b3d0a920a82 | 15:46 |
| nomia | devuan3 not devuan2 | 15:46 |
| rrq | devuan3 has 78fab1a8d8c0ed9877b65689bc8ac079 | 15:48 |
| rrq | not sure why https failed for you | 15:48 |
| nomia | i did it 3 more times and it worked | 15:49 |
| nomia | maybe round robin dns? | 15:49 |
| rrq | not pkgmaster | 15:49 |
| rrq | if you tried deb.devuan.org then yes | 15:50 |
| nomia | i got it from https://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.134devuan3_all.deb | 15:51 |
| nomia | that link is from https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=debootstrap=1.0.134devuan3 | 15:52 |
| rrq | ? does pkginfo have https links? | 15:53 |
| rrq | no, it has http links to deb.devuan.org which has DNS-rr resolving to many different hosts | 15:55 |
| rrq | onl pkgmaster has the credential to serve https in the name of deb.devuan.org | 15:56 |
| rrq | and also in the name of pkgmaster | 15:57 |
| nomia | (: i typed in the url | 16:00 |
| nomia | my banana is at single user mode rn | 16:00 |
| rrq | fair enough :) ... debootstrap does have some undeclared deps though, e.g. on gpgv | 16:01 |
| c0rnelius | you all trying to make a base rootfs tarball or something? | 16:01 |
| nomia | trying to get devuan on a banana pi | 16:03 |
| c0rnelius | which one? | 16:04 |
| nomia | m3 | 16:04 |
| c0rnelius | never used that one but its in mainline uboot and linux. should be fairly easy to create an img. unless there is some craziness I'm not aware of going on with it. | 16:10 |
| nomia | well the devuan images don't do anything | 16:13 |
| nomia | not even turn on the monitor | 16:13 |
| nomia | so i have to use a 6 year old armbian image and boot single user | 16:14 |
| nomia | but the devuan debootstrap pkg doesn't know how to deal with armbian very well | 16:14 |
| nomia | i have to override the mirror url or it goes to deb.debian.org and fails | 16:15 |
| nomia | so now i told it to use pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan and it gets farther before failing | 16:15 |
| nomia | couldn't find these debs: ca-certificates | 16:16 |
| nomia | maybe i need devuan keyring deb? | 16:17 |
| rrq | something is badly wrong with the network | 16:23 |
| nomia | did u see my bleepingcomputer link? | 16:24 |
| rrq | debootstrap saves a file var/lib/apt/lists/deb.devan.org_merged_dists_daedalus_Release.gpg | 16:24 |
| rrq | and what I got was a bogus | 16:25 |
| rrq | file | 16:25 |
| nomia | o ok not the internet | 16:25 |
| rrq | so STOP trying for the moment! this looks bad/odd | 16:25 |
| nomia | i installed devuan-keyring latest and it is working now i think | 16:26 |
| nomia | debootstrap is building dep tree | 16:26 |
| nomia | did u find smth with a bad checksum? | 16:26 |
| rrq | I got something that looks like a MITM injection | 16:27 |
| nomia | ): | 16:27 |
| nomia | scary | 16:28 |
| nomia | i will learn how to add pkgs to debootstrap before i try again | 16:28 |
| rrq | seems to be my ISP | 16:33 |
| nomia | try thru tor? | 16:34 |
| rrq | or it might be one of the mirrors | 16:39 |
| rrq | no.. seems to be my ISP | 16:46 |
| c0rnelius | you using a vpn? | 16:47 |
| rrq | oh even worse :( it's my misspelling! (embarrasing) | 16:47 |
| nomia | awww | 16:48 |
| nomia | (: | 16:48 |
| rrq | don't go to deb.devan.org | 16:49 |
| nomia | typo squatter | 16:52 |
| nomia | how do we report them? | 16:52 |
| nomia | (: squee | 17:13 |
| nomia | it's working | 17:14 |
| nomia | (: it failed at zfs-initramfs but i think i can get it to work | 18:19 |
| nomia | i did --components="main,contrib" and --include="zfsutils-linux,zfs-dmks,zfs-zed,zfs-initramfs" | 18:19 |
| nomia | but i didn't mount /proc and stuff | 18:20 |
| nomia | the man page says that comes later | 18:20 |
| APic | ♥ | 18:21 |
| nomia | is it ok to run debootstrap over again or do i have to rm -rf /target? | 18:27 |
| nomia | (: looks like no | 18:31 |
| nomia | cool --cache-dir will save time | 18:39 |
| nomia | ): debootstrap can't run in single user mode | 19:09 |
| nomia | or can't finish | 19:09 |
| nomia | hee | 20:30 |
| nomia | (: debootstrap completed successfully and /target/boot is empty | 20:30 |
| nomia | --second-stage fails | 20:34 |
| nomia | cat: /usr/share/debootstrap/suite: no such file or directory | 20:35 |
| agneli | then you probably did not install everything needed in the first step | 21:16 |
| agneli | boot should be empty imho | 21:16 |
| agneli | you would need to compile kernel later | 21:16 |
| nomia | what do i need to do? | 22:27 |
| nomia | i followed the instructions in the man page | 22:27 |
| nomia | i'm trying again without extra pkgs or contrib | 22:32 |
| nomia | --second-stage still fails | 22:39 |
| nomia | do i even need it? | 22:42 |
| rrq | nomia: a 2-stage debootstrap is useful if one want to set up the filesystem for a different target architecture; i.e. debootstrap for an armhf on an amd64 machine. | 23:20 |
| rrq | in that case, the first stage is run on the amd64 host with arguments --foreign and --arch=armhf, and then run --second-stage with the created filesystem as root (eg with chroot and armhf emulation) | 23:22 |
| rrq | 2) debootstrap does not include the kernel+modules packages or a boot setup. And that's also rather special for different armhf machines. | 23:24 |
| rrq | I used armbian to get a boot setup for my armhf machine (a CS968 TV box with rk3188 cpu/mainboard). | 23:26 |
| rrq | then I replaced the root filesystem with a devuan chroot, plus built a matching kernel so as to have all modules. However I have to reuse the actual kernel image (armbian's build seems to have included something that I don't have and my kernel builds fail to run well.) | 23:29 |
| rrq | the boot sequence starts with the special purpose uboot setup which uses an extlinux.conf file for kernel parameters and identifications of DTB and initrd. | 23:32 |
| rrq | the kernel image itself is (must be) in the zImage format, and the DTB is a near-miss from a different CS968/rk3188 machine so esp the wifi and HDMI are dysfunctional | 23:36 |
| rrq | in short: you may need to combine the working armbian bootup with a devuan root filesystem | 23:37 |
| rrq | that bootup includes kernel and initrd, although you should ideally pack a new initrd using the devuan filesystem augmented with (only) the modules and firmware from the original initrd | 23:40 |
| rrq | nomia: ^^^ | 23:40 |
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