libera/##covid-19/ Thursday, 2025-03-20

BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Health: Bird flu continues spread as Trump’s pandemic experts are MIA → https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/bird-flu-continues-spread-as-trumps-pandemic-experts-are-mia/01:45
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Mental disorders surged among children and teens during COVID-19 pandemic | The study found that the number of new mental disorder cases among individuals aged 5 to 24 increased by more than 11% annually during this period. (psypost.org) → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1jfdgf9/mental_disorders_surged_among_children_and_teens/03:42
BrainstormNew from Marc Veldhoen on Mastodon: (news): Please @nature.com words and accuracy matter. A vaccine protects against disease, protection against infection is not its pupose and wanes with time. Measles is a slow virus and we will mostly not notice infection, but it can happen. → https://mastodon.online/@marc_veld/11419371251330287209:13
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): COVID19_Pandemic: 2020 Cvd19 can never be forgotten → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19_Pandemic/comments/1jfksno/2020_cvd19_can_never_be_forgotten/10:33
BrainstormNew from ProPublica: The FDA Finally Visited an Indian Drug Factory Linked to U.S. Deaths. It Found Problems.: by Patricia Callahan ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. The Food and Drug [... want %more?] → https://www.propublica.org/article/glenmark-pharmaceuticals-recalls-fda-inspection11:14
BrainstormNew from PubMed: Mohammadreza Noroozi: Efficacy and safety of ketorolac and dexamethasone for preventing renal colic post stent removal: a randomized triple-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial → https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40110336/11:23
BrainstormNew from Virology.ws: Trial By Error: Our Presentation at the University of New South Wales: By David Tuller, DrPH On Tuesday, I gave a presentation at the Kirby Institute, a renowned research center at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, along with my friend and [... want %more?] → https://virology.ws/2025/03/20/trial-by-error-our-presentation-at-the-university-of-new-south-wales/12:53
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: How to protect the American egg supply from avian flu: The most effective strategy against bird flu on chicken farms is prevention, writes former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb — and that may include vaccinating chicks. → https://www.statnews.com/2025/03/20/h5n1-bird-flu-egg-prices-former-fda-commissioner-scott-gottlieb-biosecurity-vaccines-new-normal/15:04
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Prevenar 13, pneumococcal polysaccharide conjugate vaccine (13-valent, adsorbed), Date of authorisation: 09/12/2009, Revision: 48, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/prevenar-1316:26
semI have COVID again :(16:37
semDarn virus16:37
peetaursem: don't worry, you'll get immunity this time, or subsequent times if not17:08
semThis is my 3rd time, I heard it mutates every year like the flu17:10
peetaurbut why do some get it many times, and some (like me) get it 0 (not that I know of anyway)18:07
LjLbecause you're wise and we're stupid18:20
LjLyou know you don't have to worry18:20
LjLthe virus recognizes fear18:21
LjLit can smell it like dogs18:21
semIt also has 360 degree vision..18:43
peetaurhow does whether someone is wise or stupid change whether they get it? I have not relocated into a bunker for the last 5 years or something19:02
LjLpeetaur, it doesn't, i was being sarcastic19:03
peetaurclearly, but you seem to think I'm saying you're stupid or that I'm pretentious in some way19:04
LjLwell, do you have an answer to your own question, or do you just assume people don't have to worry and they'll get immunity (this time... or... later... or... never...?)19:04
LjLi think telling someone not to worry about their covid because they'll get immunity is misleading19:04
LjLwe don't know that they will get meaningful immunity19:04
peetaurI was also being sarcastic when I said this time or subsequent times19:04
LjLalright, then i guess we both missed sarcasm19:05
* LjL backs off19:05
peetaurI did not miss your sarcasm.19:05
peetaurbut seriously...why do some get it a lot and some don't? early on they said type O blood (like me) might be a factor making it like 1/4 chance (and is that true?). What do we know today that's not pure speculation?19:06
LjLi recall later debunking of that type O blood stuff19:06
LjLbut don't ask me to point exactly to it, it's been years, i have stuff on Zotero, it may or may not be there...19:07
peetaurwe get colds often from the kids probably... so as much as we are 'homebodies' (homesteaders), it's nothing like avoiding all people and chance of infection19:07
peetaurwell if you find the link, I would appreciate it19:08
peetauror link to other info on the general question19:08
peetaursevere symptoms is highly related to chronic illness, which we all have none here; maybe something about that?19:09
LjLi don't seem to have anything on zotero, but random googling leads me to https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2808688 which is recent-ish and still makes the claims19:12
peetaurthis seems to say there is some relationship, but not how practical that would be  (like if 1/4 particles stick that's still near 100% chance one out of a million particles stick)       “Thus,” they wrote, “variations in ACE2 levels, blood group A expression, and many other factors likely influence the overall risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection in a given population.”19:19
peetaurand I just ignore things like  "enrolled patients hospitalized ...blood type wasn’t related to clinical outcomes"  as useless info becaus they haven't shown me that they understand and compensated for the hospital bias; people who it didn't infect aren't going to the hospital like this19:20
peetaurI have also taken 0 tests by the way ;)  I work at home... we shop in bulk, and produce our own milk and eggs, so it's easy to just stay home if I have any symptoms, so I don't need to know if I have it...just assume maybe I do.19:23
LjLso have you simply not been sick in the past 5 years, or have you been sick but not taken tests and that makes you assume you never had covid?19:32
peetaurevery time I'm at all sick it's not like covid symptoms19:32
peetaurbut there's lots of vague overlap, so it's perfectly likely19:32
peetaurnever had a sore throat, or dry cough19:33
peetaurI have only called in sick 1 day in 5 years19:33
peetaurbut have been sick enough on some weekends I could have called in sick if it was a work day...we had a 'stomach bug' type of thing a month ago where I (felt faint so sat on the floor in case, and) even lost concsiousness and hit my head and had a bruise :O19:34
peetaursadly I'm not immune to everything19:35
LjLouch19:35
LjLi've had a couple of very low blood pressure episodes where i felt i nearly fainted during the past months19:36
LjLalso a stomach bug around the end of august when lots of people seemed to be getting similar19:36
peetauryeah I heard from someone at the kids' gymnastics maybe that such a thing was going around19:37
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Former CDC director Tom Frieden shares warning for RFK Jr. on measles outbreak: Wavering on vaccines and slashing public health spending could allow the Texas outbreak to turn into a disaster, Frieden says at #STATBreakthrough. → https://www.statnews.com/2025/03/20/tom-frieden-texas-measles-outbreak-rfk-jr-mmr-vaccine-public-health/19:48
BrainstormNew from Marc Veldhoen on Mastodon: (news): According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, HPV is responsible for approximately 37,800 cases of cancer in the U.S. each year. This can be nearly all (90%) be prevented by the HPV vaccine! → https://mastodon.online/@marc_veld/11419652845158603521:06
BrainstormNew from CIDRAP: (news): Electronic nudges to get flu shot may unwittingly lower COVID vaccination in older adults → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/electronic-nudges-get-flu-shot-may-unwittingly-lower-covid-vaccination-older-adults21:16
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: An American Philosophical Society member for 35 yrs, Thomas Jefferson was the 1st scientist US President. At 23, he went to Philadelphia to be inoculated for smallpox when Virginia discouraged it. He later vaccinated 200 family members & [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1jfyww3/an_american_philosophical_society_member_for_35/21:46
BrainstormNew from StatNews: STAT+: Alnylam drug wins FDA approval for progressive heart disease: The FDA cleared Alnylam’s therapy for the heart disease ATTR-CM, setting the company up to compete with drugs from BridgeBio and Pfizer. → https://www.statnews.com/2025/03/20/alnylam-vutrisiran-fda-approval-attr-cm-bridgebio-pfizer/23:05

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