libera/##covid-19/ Saturday, 2024-11-09

BrainstormNew from The Lancet (Online): [World Report] Japan's lonely deaths: a social epidemic: Almost 40 000 people died alone at home in Japan this year—many unnoticed for months—prompting much concern, and new policy. Megan Tatum reports. → https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)02470-X/fulltext00:35
LjLde-facto, whoops, this time when i was jabbed i forgot to keep the cotton ball pressed for a while00:49
de-factohuh?00:52
de-factoLjL, against which variant of COVID is this years vaccine?00:54
LjLde-facto, JN.1 or KP.2, but i think most of Europe only gets JN.100:56
LjLUS gets some KP.200:56
de-factointeresting, i dont know which variants currently are circulating01:01
LjLde-facto, KP.3 or something further01:06
de-factohttps://github.com/EU-ECDC/Respiratory_viruses_weekly_data/blob/main/data/variants.csv01:09
LjLnice file01:12
LjLold me would have made a Brainstorm plugin for that01:12
de-factohttps://erviss.org/01:18
de-facto"Between weeks 42/2024 and 43/2024, 10 countries and areas reported sufficiently complete information to permit calculation of the relative frequency of specific variants. Among these countries and areas, the median proportion (range) of all nationally sequenced virus isolates detected, that are a current or former variant of concern or variant of interest"01:19
de-facto"KP.3: 58% (37%–80% from 10 countries and areas)."01:19
de-facto"BA.2.86: 9% (0%–58% from 9 countries and areas). Note: JN.1 isolates are included in BA.2.86."01:19
de-facto"The most common SARS-CoV-2 lineages in GISAID for the European Region in October were: KP.3.1.1 (46%); XEC (17%); JN.1 (8%); MC.1 (5%); and KP.3.1 (4%) (n=17,169)."01:19
de-factohttps://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/communicable-disease-threats-report-2-8-november-2024-week-4501:24
de-factohttps://covariants.org/variants/24C.Omicron01:29
de-factoLjL, looks like JN.1 (24A) and KP.3 (24C) share a lot of mutations https://covariants.org/shared-mutations01:34
LjLde-facto, more than KP.2 shares with KP.3?01:34
LjLKP.2 isn't listed there01:35
LjLi would naively assume KP.2 is closer to KP.3 than JN.1 is, but the EMA said a JN.1 vaccine is fine01:35
de-factonot sure about KP.2 but i also would think that01:36
de-factoyeah looks like JN.1 and KP.3 share a lot of mutations, hence the vaccine probably covers both i guess?01:36
de-factoi mean yeah covers both for sure, but also should fit well01:37
LjLwow.01:37
LjLi just realized... i don't know whether they gave me Pfizer or something else01:37
LjLde-facto, yeah but i just wonder why the US FDA decided they wanted manufacturers to make a KP.2 vaccine. i guess at the time, KP.2 was prevalent, but then the question is would KP.2 or JN.1 be better01:37
LjL(now that KP.3 is prevalent)01:37
LjLeven though yes, i assume either will be mostly alright01:38
de-factoKP.3 also is already replaced by a "recombinant"01:39
de-factoLjL, should be written in your documents?01:39
LjLnah this is stuff that's too recent, my documents have been mostly dormant01:40
LjL<de-facto> KP.3 also is already replaced by a "recombinant" ← yeah the prevalent thing just changes way too quickly to keep up with vaccines even mRNA01:40
LjLdid you see that the FDA still recommends a spring boost for vulnerables01:40
de-factoyeah idk what to think about that01:41
LjLde-facto, apparently KP.2 == JN.1.11.1.201:44
LjLi guess that's why it isn't listed separately on https://covariants.org/shared-mutations01:44
LjLbut then i really don't understand why they decided to make a KP.2 vaccine in the first place01:45
de-factook so the last three are JN.1 KP.2 and KP.3 then?01:45
LjLthere's only two mutations between JN.1 and JN.1.11.1...?01:45
LjLde-facto, almost, although i found that KP.2 == JN.1.11.1.2 while the one listed is JN.1.11.1 without the .201:45
de-factohttps://outbreak.info/situation-reports/kp.3*%20(kp.3.x)?xmin=2024-05-09&xmax=2024-11-09&loc&selected01:46
de-factoKP.3.1.101:47
LjLi get 404 no such key01:48
LjLi think it's Firefox being dumb with %20 stuff01:48
LjLi can't make it work01:48
de-factohttps://outbreak.info/situation-reports/kp.2*%20(kp.2.x)?xmin=2024-05-09&xmax=2024-11-09&loc&selected01:49
de-factoLjL, then start from the main variants page maybe via click? https://outbreak.info/situation-reports01:50
LjLyeah, doing that01:51
LjLanyway, it is what it is, it's not like we can get a different vaccine01:51
de-factoi think its fine01:52
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: After work by army engineers to build inspection points and paved roads, Israel now plans to reopen the Kissufim crossing into Gaza, allowing a 5th crossing point for aid. → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1gmy5w7/after_work_by_army_engineers_to_build_inspection/02:12
LjLdid it match "reopen"...02:27
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): COVID19_Pandemic: Emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants are induced by co-infections with dengue. → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19_Pandemic/comments/1gn09v7/emergence_of_sarscov2_variants_are_induced_by/04:57
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 1164: Clinical update with Dr. Daniel Griffin: In his weekly clinical update, Dr. Griffin informs us about the World Health Organization research and development plan to combat endemic pathogens including hepatitis C virus, RSV and dengue virus, another case of mpox in Britian, the Marburg virus [... want %more?] → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-1164/06:05
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Assessing acute kidney injury risk after COVID vaccination and infection in a large cohort study → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/1gn61rn/assessing_acute_kidney_injury_risk_after_covid/10:07
BrainstormNew from Marc Veldhoen on Mastodon: (news): These studies suggest that all individuals would benefit from influenza vaccination to be better protected in the event of an H5N1 pandemic. → https://mastodon.online/@marc_veld/11345263883005654312:02
BrainstormNew from StatNews: What can Trump and RFK Jr. actually do on health care?: Republicans are brimming with changes they’d like to make to public health and pandemic preparedness. → https://www.statnews.com/2024/11/09/trump-administration-healthcare-policy-realistic-expectations-rfk-jr/13:10
BrainstormNew from Retraction Watch: Weekend reads: Top Alzheimer’s researcher on leave; president calls for superconductivity researcher to be fired; continued citation of retracted papers: [... want %more?] → https://retractionwatch.com/2024/11/09/weekend-reads-top-alzheimers-researcher-on-leave-president-calls-for-superconductivity-researcher-to-be-fired-continued-citation-of-retracted-papers/15:16
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: Top 5 Infectious Disease New Stories Week of November 2-8: From improving infection control and antibiotic stewardship, identifying RT 027 as a risk factor for vancomycin resistance in C diff, developing a universal flu vaccine, better management for [... want %more?] → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/top-5-infectious-disease-new-stories-week-of-november-2-816:05
BrainstormNew from Marc Veldhoen on Mastodon: (news): They use data from January 1,1990 through December 31, 2023 and claim anything in 2020-2023 must be the vaccine, while we all know there was something of a pandemic going on. → https://mastodon.online/@marc_veld/11345415899299401918:31
BrainstormNew from Marc Veldhoen on Mastodon: (news): Covid extremism & scientific consensus: A conversation with immunologist Marc Veldhoen → https://mastodon.online/@marc_veld/11345431927544678519:11

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