libera/#maemo-leste/ Saturday, 2025-04-19

sicelocellphone batteries nearly always use mAh00:02
* sicelo has already converted the applet to use Wh fwiw00:03
dsc_arno11: kinetic scrolling now09:51
dsc_and text selecting09:51
arno11dsc_: it works perfectly :) thx again10:18
arno11Wizzup: hi, i need another kick for maemo-gpt plz (added icon and remove links dep)13:42
arno11(i don't have privs for it in jenkins, same for picodrive btw)14:09
arno11i built drnoksnes this morning, no issue for armhf but launcher is still broken because of osso-games-startup .launch issue14:10
Wizzupack14:16
Wizzupwill see if I can find a more permanent solution14:17
arno11ok14:24
arno11btw, currently building -locally- last netsurf dev stuff: apparently js is supposed to 'work' quite fine on low power devices...let's see on n90014:40
Wizzupcool14:41
arno11dsc_: even with a build in background, conv_slim is still fast and smooth on my n900 :)14:42
sicelois it just my N900 or we have some tz issues in daedalus? `date` (and logs, etc.) show timestamps in my local time (UTC+2)14:43
sicelobut the hildon clock shows it in UTC14:44
arno11sicelo: seems ok on my device14:52
sicelomaybe something went out of sync here. I think i've resolved it now14:54
sicelohas anyone made successful calls with tp-rakia + vcm? In my case, sphone crashes all the time15:34
siceloUsing vcm from dbus seems to work, but then no audio both ways15:35
siceloarno11: what ucm profile do you use with Twinkle? HiFi, I guess?15:37
arno11sicelo: twinkle works with both hifi and voicecall15:42
arno11weird @no audio btw.15:44
arno11i didn't try sip with vcm and daedalus btw15:44
arno11maybe another PA issue (like ringtone apparently)15:44
arno11will try sip soon to confirm15:45
dsc_arno11: can also disable avatars ;)15:46
arno11as you want, but not sure it will make a huge diff. it works fine actually15:48
arno11sicelo: at least, rakia + vcm was ok on chimaera15:51
sicelocould also be my SIP server of course, but I think it's behaving correctly. I'll login to it and capture the rtp stream15:58
arno11ok (currently testing)15:59
arno11but still building netsurf in background lol15:59
sicelo;-)16:00
sicelootherwise I'm happily daily driving the N900, receiving/making multiple phone calls each day16:01
arno11cool :)16:02
arno11no sound with sip for me too, but no sphone crash16:05
arno11hmm no crash, but it fails to show backends in gui anymore16:06
arno11something seems wrong with sphone16:06
arno11i still use 0.9.5 btw16:07
arno11the same version worked fine in chimaera16:07
arno11will try twinkle with same sip accounts a bit later16:08
sicelothe 'contacts backends' issue? so you're having it with 0.9.5?16:08
arno11no that's a diff. issue, contacts backend is fine for me16:09
arno11*in 0.9.516:10
arno11actually when i launch the dialer i can't choose sip backend16:11
sicelois the account activated and online? you may have to restart sphone for it to show the sip backend16:11
arno11yeah the account is active and online of€16:13
arno11*ofc16:14
arno11no the backend was visible, able to make a call and then backend disappeared16:14
arno11*call with no sound16:15
dsc_arno11: I mean, avatars can be disabled in the settings, and that saves a few kb of RAM16:46
dsc_:P16:46
arno11ah ok, fair enough :P16:48
arno11sicelo: twinkle-console still works amazingly well (call between 2 bad hsdpa networks)16:57
siceloWizzup: uvos: so sphone has the 'contacts' backend issue because it wants libebook-1.2.so.20 which is provided by libebook-1.2-20. in daedalus, we now have libebook-1.2-21, which provides libebook-1.2.so.2116:57
arno11ah ok16:57
siceloarno11: nice! so you were using twinkle-console? not the GUI?16:58
arno11@sphone: maybe we have this kind of issue with PA module as well16:58
dsc_sicelo: similar https://git.maemo.org/leste/conversations/commit/32c4c22d70c4e9b1fcfd87f7e9f84ff6a44aafbf16:59
arno11sicelo: @twinkle, yeah i prefer twinkle console16:59
siceloWizzup: no idea why sphone has been working fine so far though ... i don't think that lib changed recently16:59
sicelodsc_: ah, thanks!17:01
* sicelo looks at D4, then an idle BL-5J, and has a naughty idea ...17:25
sicelotoo thick 😕17:32
siceloWizzup: what's the relationship/difference between hildon-meta and hildon-meta-core?20:45
siceloah, -core is an attempt to end up with a smaller Leste installation ootb?20:56
sicelommm, or hildon-meta is on the way out, and -core is the one to use?20:57
sicelomaybe i should explain why i'm asking - now that i think i'm done with the upower stuff (and its friends), i'm thinking about the Librem5 again ... will need a meta-librem5 naturally20:58
Wizzupsicelo: both will remain, hildon-core is to make smaller images20:58
Wizzuphildon-meta-core20:58
Wizzuphildon-meta is still what we'll use in the future20:58
siceloso for now i'd need to add n l5-meta to both?21:03
sicelouvos: Wizzup: https://git.maemo.org/leste/sphone/pulls/1121:04
arno11netsurf feedback: indeed js 'works', able to log on some online accounts where js is needed. google search and google news work without js errors21:54
arno11it is not as fast as new dillo but i built netsurf without any optimisation21:54
arno11and it is quite already usable21:55
siceloi tried (on pc) with on github ... which sites did you try22:00
arno11i.e amazon22:03
arno11uh, indeed github is...buggy22:05
arno11but able to login22:05
arno11like the old version, NS needs a proper config file imo22:06
arno11gmail seems to work22:09
arno11hmm in fact not...22:13

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